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HomeMy WebLinkAbout06-23-1998 DRB Minutes DESIGN REVIEW BOARD TUESDAY,JUNE 23, 1998 MINUTES ITEM 1. CALL TO ORDER AND ATTENDANCE Chairperson Kim Walker called the meeting to order at 3:30 p.m. She directed the secretary to record the minutes. Members Present Members Absent Staff Present Visitors Present Kim Walker Mara-Gai Katz John Sherman Lowell Springer Walt Willett Henry Sorenson Chris Saunders Mike Delaney Ed McCrone Roger Cruwys Dave Skelton Jim Ullman Bill Hanson Andrew Epple Morris Klare Carol Schott Marcia Youngman Nick Salmon Doug Morley Gene Mickolio ITEM 2. PROJECT REVIEWS A. Keller Supply Company MaSP/COA#Z-9888 - (Sherman) 75 Rawhide Ridge - A Major Site Plan Application with a Certificate of Appropriateness to construct a 19,770 sq. ft. office, showroom, warehouse structure in the North 19"1 Entryway Overlay District. Urban Designer/Planner John Sherman presented the application, noting it was recommended for approval with conditions by DRC this morning and will be reviewed by Planning Board in the near future. He suggested moving to the next item on the agenda as the applicants were not present. (This item was continued as the second item on the agenda.) Doug Morley and Gene Mickolio joined the DRB. Planner Sherman reviewed the application,noting the recommended conditions. He presented photos of several surrounding structures. Mr. Willett asked about the windows that were suggested for the north elevation. Planner Sherman noted that the graphic presented by the applicant today shows windows on the upper level of the north elevation. I Mr. Hanson asked for further discussion on the chain link fence. Planner Sherman reviewed the discussion at the last meeting. Mr. Morley noted the applicants are in favor of the chain link fence with ball and cap detailing and a hedge to fill in the screening. Discussion followed on the fence 1 Design Review Board Minutes-June 23,1998 and screening. Mr. Willett asked what is happening around the rest of the building. Mr. Morley noted it will have a cap around the rest of the building. He noted that Mr. Springer had several photos of the bad sides of the other buildings in the area to compare with the north and west elevations of this buildings. Mr. Willett noted there is not much change in this submittal from the last one. He is disappointed with the response of the applicant to the suggestions of the DR,however, the entrance corner shows some improvement. He feels there has not been enough effort to improve the submittal. Mr. Hanson asked for the color rendering of the blue of the roof. Planner Sherman presented a color sample of the roofing. Mr. Hanson asked how much investigation had gone into the roof form. Mr. Morley noted that originally they had a pitched roof on it, but the building look like it was all roof. Mr. Hanson noted he has difficulty with several issues. 1) It is difficult for the DRI3 to review a submittal when the design is different from what the design standards allow. 2) The projections on the south elevation don't break up the facade enough. 3) The overhang on the north side is very minimal. 4) The other two sides aren't detailed. He suggested using different materials to break up the facades. Mr. Morley noted that they were trying to avoid adding"doo- dads" like Wal-Mart did, which look as if they don't belong. Mr. Morley noted that any undulation in the walls doesn't lend itself well to storage. Mr. Hanson noted that some articulation needs to be added to the long linear wall. He suggested using a glass that would allow light to enter, but not allow anyone to see into the building. He feels that the bumping up of the roof on the south and east elevations has helped those elevations. He noted something needs to be done on the north and west elevations to relieve the massive expanse. Mr. Hanson noted that he is not comfortable with the fence, something has to happen to improve the fence before he could support it. Mr. Morley noted they plan to cover it with hedging, or they could build the fence from the same siding material and obscure it totally. Mr. McCrone concurred with the comments thus far. He complimented Staff in the analysis of the project. He noted that being in an Entryway corridor causes problems for the applicant. He feels the mansard roof on the original proposal on the west and east was better than what is proposed now. He asked about the berm on the south side - if it is proposed to be about 4 feet high. Mr. Morley agreed. Mr. McCrone noted he is uncomfortable making a recommendation on what is proposed. Chairperson Walker noted she concurs with comments thus far. She continued that whatever changes are to be made are to be presented in the packets so the DRI3 sees the whole picture. She noted the DRI3 needs a complete submittal. She noted this is not a complete submittal and she holds Mr. Springer accountable, She is recommending denial, based upon the need for a complete submittal. Planning Director Andrew Epple clarified that this application will be reviewed next by the Design Review Board Minutes-June 23,1998 2 Planning Board. He noted that this review could be continued, pending a re-submittal which addresses the issues. Chairperson Walker noted that the submittal needs to be complete, with all of the submittal materials matching one another. Mr. Willett noted that he doesn't want "doo-dads"on the outside of it. He suggested defining the office space from the warehouse space. Mr. McCrone noted on Staffs recommended conditions 2 and 3,he doesn't feel that staff should design the building. Chairperson Walker concurred, noting that the changes in materials would be a dramatic change. Planning Director Epple summarized that the DRB will not recommend approval unless significant changes are made. MOTION: Chairperson Walker moved to continue the review on this application until the next meeting. Mr. Hanson seconded the motion which carried 4-0, to continue the review to July 14, 1998, if the submittal materials are received by June 30, 1998. B. Bozeman Athletic Club Cupolas COA/DEV#Z-9896 - (Saunders) 8601 Huffine Lane - A Certificate of Appropriateness Application with Deviations to allow the cupolas to exceed the maximum height permitted. Mike Delaney joined the DRB. Assistant Planner Chris Saunders presented the application, noting the deviation is to allow a height deviation. He noted that DRC is reviewing the whole project for infrastructure. Mr. Delaney noted he has no problem with the two conditions. Mr. McCrone complimented Staff on the thoroughness of the analysis. MOTION: Mr. Willett moved to recommend approval based on staffs conditions. Mr. McCrone seconded the motion, which carried 5-0. Planner Saunders noted it will go to City Commission on July 6. Design Review Board Minutes-June 23,1998 3 C. Fuddruckers MiSP/COA#Z-9887 - (Skelton) 2905 West Main Street - A Minor Site Plan Application with a Certificate of Appropriateness to allow the construction of a 5,651 sq. ft. structure for restaurant use. Jim Ullman and Morris Klare joined the DRB. Senior Planner Dave Skelton presented the application. He noted that the DRC and DRB will make the final decision on this project as it is a Minor Site Plan application. He continued that DRC conditionally approved the application this morning and Staff is recommending conditional approval by the DRB. He continued that the staff's concerns focused on the uncovered patio area and the self-contained cooler area. Chairperson Walker asked about the screening of the cooler area and if Staff addressed the blank west wall. Planner Skelton noted Staff felt that wainscoting around the whole building would help address the blankness of the wall. Mr. Willett asked if the door on the west was an emergency door, to which Mr. Ullman replied it is. There was concern about the placement of the trees in front of the entryway doors. Mr. McCrone asked about the revised landscaping plan. Planner Skelton noted that the landscape plan needs to deal with the four items outlined in condition#1. Mr. Morris asked if the trees along the street have to be placed every 50 feet, as it appears to him that the bank next door didn't plant the boulevard trees in that interval. Planner Skelton noted that is a code requirement. Chairperson Walker noted that the bank had a significant amount of excess landscaping, and they were allowed to plant trees every 50 feet or less, however, they may not have planted them that way. Mr. Morris asked if trees in front of Hardees were required. Planner Skelton explained that boulevard trees along North 7"'Avenue are planted in the interior of the lots due to being along Highway 10 and MDOT discourages boulevard trees within the street right-of-way. Mr. Hanson asked Planner Skelton to discuss the materials suggested in the Staff report. Planner Skelton described the materials and the reasons for suggesting them. Mr. Hanson asked if a horizontal band could be used with a different texture below it. Mr. McCrone commented that the applicant responded well to the comments from the informal review. He asked if the awnings would be lighted. Discussion followed on the style of lighting proposed and suggested. Mr. Klare noted that he didn't think there would be a problem with the corporate office with the suggested illumination. Mr. McCrone noted he concurred with the suggestion of using a wainscoting band to break up the west facade. Mr. Hanson was concern with the issue of the wainscoting, noting the building could be successful with or without it. His concern is with the west elevation being blank. He suggested an awning over the exterior door to help break up that facade. He suggested large conifer trees or other columnar type trees along the north elevation. Design Review Board Minutes-June 23,1998 4 Mr. Willett noted that this presentation is a vast improvement over the last one presented to the DRB. He concurs with the suggestion of placing an awning on the west side. He also concurred with Planner Skelton's concern with the wood finish, however, he disagrees with using wainscoting all the way around. He suggested using a material that matches the roofing or masonry. He doesn't feel that a line of wainscoting is appropriate. He feels that the patio is out of scale with the rest of the building and suggested making it larger. He noted the separation of the cooler from the main building does bother him. Mr. Ullman noted that the separation of the cooler from the building was done to keep from having the building to be sprinkled. Chairperson Walker noted she concurs with other comments. She is concerned with the west wall and its visibility. Mr. Klare noted the trees were on the site plan when the building was reoriented and the trees were not reconfigured. She suggested the applicants consider making the patio Iarger. She asked if the applicants were comfortable wiTh the conditions. Mr. Klare noted the conditions were acceptable, however, Planner Skelton noted they would have a concern with condition#7. Mr. Hanson suggested deleting the proposed wood siding and replacing it with a wainscot siding or some other material to match the exterior finish of the main building. He suggested adding condition 12 - An architectural feature or columnar landscaping is to be added to the west elevation to break up its magnitude. MOTION; Mr. Hanson moved to approve the application with Staffs conditions, with the revision to condition#7 to change the proposed wood siding on the patio to a wainscoting or other material to match the exterior finish of the main building and the addition of condition#12 - "An architectural feature or columnar landscaping shall be added to the west elevation to break up its magnitude." Mr. McCrone seconded the motion, which carried 4-0. ITEM 3. INFORMAL REVIEW Ranch R Home Addition - (Skelton) 2275 North 7`h Avenue An Informal review for advice and comment on a proposed expansion. Nick Salmon joined the DRB. He presented the application, noting they are proposing an 18,000 sq. ft. addition. Chairperson Walker noted the parking lot is treacherous now. Mr. Salmon noted they have widened all of the parking spaces to accommodate larger vehicles. Discussion followed on the number of accesses, width of the accesses, turning rad1i, and parking spaces for pickups and trailers. Chairperson Walker suggested widening the accesses even more. Mr. McCrone noted that parking and the width of the existing driving aisles seems to be the biggest problem. Design Review Board Minutes-June 23,1993 5 ITEM 4. ADJOURNMENT Chairperson Walker noted there was no further business, and declared the meeting adjourned. Kim Walker, Cha' erson, Design Review Board Design Review Board Minutes-June 23,1998 6