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HomeMy WebLinkAbout04-08-1997 DRB Minutes DESIGN REVIEW BOARD TUESDAY,APRIL 8, 1997 Members Present Members Absent Staff Present Visitors Present Richard Noonan Kim Walker Dave Skelton Richard Knell Ed McCrone Roger Cruwys Andrew Epple Dean DeGidio Mara-Gai Katz Carol Schott Buck Rea Walt Willett Chaucer Silverson Paul Gleye Cliff Chisholm ITEM 1. CALL TO ORDER AND ATTENDANCE Chairperson Cliff Chisholm called the meeting to order. He directed the secretary to record the attendance. ITEM 2. MINUTES OF MARCH 11,AND MARCH 25, 1997,MEETINGS Chairperson Chisholm called for corrections or additions to the minutes of the March 11, 1997, meeting. Mr. Gleye commended the secretary for clear, concise minutes. MOTION: Chairperson Chisholm moved, Mr. McCrone seconded,to approve the minutes of the March 11, 1997,meeting. Motion carried 6 - 0. Chairperson Chisholm called for corrections or additions to the minutes of the March 25 meeting. Hearing none,MOTION: he moved, Mr. McCrone seconded, to approve the minutes of the March 25 meeting. Motion carried 6 - 0. ITEM 3. INFORMAL REVIEW A. Taco Bell Informal Replacement of the existing 23'X 48'building with a 28'X 66'building. Summary notes fog-file. Richard Knell joined DRB. Senior Planner Dave Skelton presented the project and noted Staff concerns with the drive-up window being on the south side along Beall Street as vehicles would exit near North 7th Avenue. He noted that there would be some deviations involved. Mr. McCrone inquired if Mr. Knell was proposing any landscaping. Planner Skelton noted that there would be some landscaping on the interior of the off-street parking area. Mr. Knell inquired what distance would be required for the front setback. Planner Skelton noted the usual setback is 100 feet from the street, however, because this is an already developed lot, there would be some flexibility. Discussion followed on the landscaping areas,the prototype Design Review Board Minutes-April 8,1997 1 building, the possibility of site-built building, the possibility of the installation of a sidewalk,the necessity for street improvements, and the development of the lot to the rear of the store as a parking lot. Chairperson Chisholm noted that this project would be for the DRC to approve as it relates to the street, parking, sidewalks, etc. He directed the DRB to keep their comments to the facade issues, landscaping, etc. He noted it is a quality upgrade. Mr. Knell noted that the existing building is too small, the roof leaks, and the parking lot is too small. Planner Skelton noted that the Planning Department would like comments on the issues of ingress/egress. If the building were moved farther west,there would be more room for landscaping. Mr. Noonan commented that screening of the furniture store would hinder the parking. He continued with a discussion of the elimination of the pole sign and possible signage. Mr. Willett suggested turning the building 90 degrees,then the drive-through would be in the rear and allow that traffic to pass right through the site. Discussion ensued on this proposal. It was noted that the building would encroach into the comer side yard on the south and the side yard on the north, however, the turning of the building would give it more of a presence on North 7th Avenue. Mr. Gleye asked if the freezer could be moved to a different location. Mr. Willett suggested constructing a square building as it would better fit the lot and better serve the public. Mr. Knell noted that he would draw a shorter wider building. Mr. Noonan suggested having the building be the sign. Mr. Knell described the second possible location. Discussion of the secondary proposal ensued. Mr.Noonan noted that he doesn't have a problem with the "canned"building, however, with some articulation,the front area could be improved. Mr. Willett noted the building design and colors are not a problem. He suggested having the drive through work better. B. DeGidio Addition 803 North Grand Avenue - An Informal Application for a two-story addition. Summary notes for file. Dean DeGidio and Buck Rea joined the DRB. Senior Planner Dave Skelton noted that Staff has some concerns with the mass of the addition. He suggested adding detail such as a gabled roof over the entryway along North Grand Avenue. Mr. Gleye asked for a review of the deviations that would be needed. Planner Skelton noted the deviations. Chairperson Chisholm asked Mr. DeGidio to describe his plans. Mr.DeGidio noted that the existing house is very small and they just want to enlarge the home to accommodate their growing family and to include a home office space. He distributed a letter from a neighbor in support of Design Review Board Minutes-April 8,1997 2 the project and a proposed floor plan. Discussion ensued on the neighborhood character. Chairperson Chisholm asked about the planned use of the upstairs. Mr. DeGidio noted they plan to use it for bedrooms. Discussion ensued on the fence along the driveway as the fence is located 8' inside the public right-of-way. Chairperson Chisholm asked if the deviation into the side yard setback can be supported by DRB. Mr. Willett suggested having the addition off-set from the existing structure to give some delineation to the structure and give some character to it. Chairperson Chisholm concurred. Mr. DeGidio noted that his family wants to keep the same width in the addition as in the existing structure to gain the space. When asked about the removal of the tree in the front yard, Mr. DeGidio noted that not only is it too large to be moved, it is half dead. Mr.Noonan suggested attaching the office to the garage. Mr. DeGidio noted that he planned to use the existing master bedroom as the office. Mr. McCrone suggested constructing the addition towards the garage. Mr.Rae noted that he would have problems tying the new roof to the existing roof and discussed problems connecting the existing roof to the roof of the addition. Mr. Willett asked if the front entrance would still be along Aspen Street. Mr. DeGidio noted that it will and that he would be willing to add a gabled entrance. Chairperson Chisholm suggested adding windows. Discussion followed on the possible use of a hip roof and the width of the roof overhang. Mr. Gleye noted that the front of the house is very large and needs a front porch that is harmonious with the size of the house. He noted a concern with the deviation request as he's not sure it is a rehabilitation project-the addition is larger than the existing home. Mr. DeGidio noted that the neighbors have massive houses. Mr. Willett noted that this property is located on a comer lot. He continued since neighbors have interior lots,they don't have to met the two front yard requirements. Ms. Katz suggested shifting the second floor over the existing building to add more room. Mr. DeGidio asked if DRB is concerned with the box look or what is the problem. Ms. Katz noted that if the home were pulled back four feet for an off-set, and the added square footage upstairs with the roof extending over the existing home. She continued that the suggested roof form would help integrate the addition to the existing home. Chairperson Chisholm summarized the suggestions of the DRB 1)the location on a narrow lot on a comer is a problem, 2)the addition proposed is twice as large as the existing house, 3)the drawings should have more detail, 4)try to integrate the addition into the existing house, 5) and look at someway to create a front entryway. Design Review Board Minutes-April 8,1997 3 Ms. Katz suggested that they contact the Design Services Bank, Derek Strahn, Historic Preservation Planner, is in charge, for help with drawings. Mr. Noonan suggested some design ideas. Discussion followed on the suggestions thus far. C. Stabile Informal 514 N. Church Comments and advice requested on a new garage with a dwelling unit above. Summary notes for file. Chaucer Silverson joined DRB. Planning Director Andrew Epple presented the proposed project. He asked Mr. Silverson if the garage could be wider than 16'. Discussion followed on the width of the garage, location of the doors, staircase, etc. Chairperson Chisholm noted that the drawing does not present a very good interpretation of what could be done to enlarge the second floor. Discussion followed with DRB noting that the front of the principal building has very crisp geometry,the design for the new building seems kind of cobbled together, utilizes an inappropriate building form, and the proportions are problematic. Mr. Gleye suggested that the location being next to the massive bus barn might allow the proposed size to increase and a roof line to match that on the house, even if the garage were taller than the house. Chairperson Chisholm suggested that the proposed structure does not need to imitate the house and yet won't be overwhelmed by the the bus barn. Discussion ensued on the deviations that would be necessary and the detail to be added to the new building is to reflect that which is found on the existing house. ITEM 4. ADJOURNMENT Chairperson Chisholm moved to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Mr.Noonan. The motion carried, the meeting was adjourned at 5:20 p.m. Cliff Chisholm, Chairperson,Design Review Board Design Review Board Minutes-April 8,1997 4 Ms. Katz suggested that they contact the Design Services Bank, Derek Strahn, Historic Preservation Planner, is in charge, for help with drawings. Mr.Noonan suggested some design ideas. Discussion followed on the suggestions thus far. C. Stabile Informal 514 N. Church Comments and advice requested on a new garage with a dwelling unit above. Summary notes for f le. Chaucer Silverson joined DRB. Planning Director Andrew Epple presented the proposed project. He asked Mr. Silverson if the garage could be wider than 16'. Discussion followed on the width of the garage, location of the doors, staircase, etc. Chairperson Chisholm noted that the drawing does not present a very good interpretation of what could be done to enlarge the second floor. Discussion followed with DRB noting that the front of the principal building has very crisp geometry, the design for the new building seems kind of cobbled together, utilizes an inappropriate building form, and the proportions are problematic. Mr. Gleye suggested that the location being next to the massive bus barn might allow the proposed size to increase and a roof line to match that on the house, even if the garage were taller than the house. Chairperson Chisholm suggested that the proposed structure does not need to imitate the house and yet won't be overwhelmed by the the bus barn. Discussion ensued on the deviations that would be necessary and the detail to be added to the new building is to reflect that which is found on the existing house. ITEM 4. ADJOURNMENT Chairperson Chisholm moved to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Mr.Noonan. The motion carried, the meeting was adjourned at 5:20 p.m. c � Cli Chisholm, Chairperson, Design Review Board Design Review Board Minutes-April 8,1997 4