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DESIGN REVIEW BOARD
WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 13, 1996
ITEM 1. CALL TO ORDER AND ATTENDANCE
Chairperson Cliff Chisholm called the meeting to order at 3:30 p.m.
Members Present: Members Absent:
Kim Walker Ed McCrone
Walt Willett Rich Noonan
Paul Gleye Mari-Gai Katz
Cliff Chisholm
Roger Cruwys
Staff Present: Visitors Re isg tered:
Andrew Epple Carl Solvie
Dave Skelton J.R. Reynolds
Carol Schott Tom Milleson
Eric Klotz
Joan Rudberg
ITEM 2. MINUTES OF OCTOBER 22, and NOVEMBER 1, 1996
The Chairperson asked for corrections or additions to the November 1, 1996,
minutes. After discussion of those minutes, the DRB concurred that they were correct as
written. The Chairperson asked for corrections or additions to the October 22, 1996,
minutes. MOTION: The Chairman moved, Paul Gleye seconded, that the minutes of both
meetings be approved as written. Motion carried 5-0.
ITEM 3. PROJECT REVIEW
A. GRANTREE CONOCO Amended Final Site Plan Z-9509 - (Patterson
[Epple])
1417 North 7th Avenue
- An Amended Site Plan Application to allow the as-built canopy
to remain and the removal of the conditions-of-approval for (1)
construction of a parapet over the gas canopy, (2) safety rail along the
fastfood drive-through, (3) decorative wood braces and columns on the
main building, and (4) lattice enclosure of the mechanical dormer on
the south side, (5) landscaping changes.
Mr. Carl Solvie was invited to join the DRB. Planning Director Andrew Epple
reviewed the approved CUP of February 21, 1995, and presented the amendments requested
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by the applicant. He noted that the Planning Office had notified Mr. Solvie that the
conditions of the CUP had not been met and that the Planning Office would not release the
Letter of Credit it holds to cover the uncompleted conditioned improvements at the time of
the owner's temporary occupancy. He continued that Mr. Solvie asked if the DRB would
consider modifying the CUP. Planning Director Epple noted that Planning Staff is concerned
with the parking lot modifications and landscaping requirements, however, those are not the
primary subject of today's discussion; Mr. Solvie will be requesting variances to address
those concerns at a later date.
Planning Director Epple continued that the concerns of Planning Staff with this application
are as follows: 1) the canopy on top of the existing canopy - it was to replicate the structure
and materials of the main structure. The canopy was built with a streamlined flat-topped
facade; he noted that the Code states that the canopy for a gas island or convenience store
shall have the same features as the main building; 2) the required pilasters along the walls
of the main building were to be added to break the expanse of the wall - they were omitted;
Planning Director Epple noted that Staff agrees with Mr. Solvie that the pilasters along the
gables are not necessary, however, the pilasters should be required around the rest of the
building as approved; and knee braces were approved from the roof to the building walls to
tie the roof to the walls of the building to prevent a floating sensation - they were omitted;
3) a safety rail was to have been installed along the drive through lane - it was omitted,
Staff suggests that it may not be needed; and 4) the mechanical system was to have been
screened - it hasn't been. In Mr. Solvie's request, he suggested that it not be required. Staff
agrees that the lattice screening may not be the most appropriate screening, however, the
zoning ordinance requires mechanical equipment to be screened. Staff has suggested
alternative screening.
Chairperson Chisholm asked for a roundtable discussion. He began by reviewing the
discussion in the 1995 approval of the canopy. He noted that the shorter, lower pitched roof
as on the Final Site Plan was a compromise between a steeply pitched roof to match that on
the main buildings and a flat roof. He suggested that the peak of the parapet would not add
that much height to the structure. He also suggested that the fascia be painted to match the
rest of the structures.
Kim Walker asked Planning Director Epple if the applicant had approached the City for
approval of the changes that have been done prior to making the changes. Planning Director
Epple noted that the project was nearing completion before the changes were noted by
Planning Staff. Ms. Walker noted that she has no sense of a hovering roof over the
convenience store. She suggested adding the shorter columns and deleting the longer ones
that extend to the second floor into the gables. She noted that the railings don't seem
necessary. Her concern was that if the conditions of approval are changed without first
gaining approval of the City, then others may do likewise and seek approval after the fact.
Roger Cruwys noted that the standing seam, mansard roof on the canopy would not obstruct
the view. He continued that the addition of the mansard roof, as approved in the 1995
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conditions, is needed to tie the island to the other buildings in the complex. He noted that the
columns weren't necessary, they just tend to "busy" the building. He concurs with Staff that
they definitely aren't needed in the gables. He continued that the hand rail is a moot point.
He also noted that though screening of the machinery is required, lattice probably is not the
solution.
Walt Willett noted that the lack of a parapet on the canopy has bothered him since the
canopy was constructed. He noted that the island is out-of-place without it, and the 3' height
would create little obstruction of view. He continued that the compromise solution approved
in 1995 is needed. He commented that the wood pilasters aren't needed as the building
would look too busy. Also the lattice work screening bothers him as it will detract from the
rest of the building. If the side walls of the screening were dryvit, then they would match
the other gables. He also suggested a rail system on the open side could be used to mimic
the windows of the gables. He noted that having the handrail would be more dangerous than
not having one. Mr. Solvie noted that the handrail posts which are on the site are inserted
into sleeves and can be easily removed. Mr. Willett noted that the garbage enclosure is
inappropriate.
Paul Gleye asked Mr. Solvie to comment on the Staff report.
Mr. Solvie noted frustrations with the engineers out of California. His crew was pressed for
time when construction began, and, as they were building, they became wiser as to what
looked good on paper didn't necessarily work during construction. He didn't think the wood
beams instead of knee braces would be a problem for the City, so he didn't come to the City
for approval as they were running out of time. The same thing happened with the canopy.
He noted that the fascia is the same shade as the main building. He also noted that the
building should be the focal point, not the island. He continued that it isn't correct to build a
high gas canopy that obstructs the view or becomes the dominating feature of the complex.
He wanted a clean look. He requested the color photographs from the file and used them to
point out that the canopy doesn't take away from the aesthetics of the main buildings. He
continued that the extra 3' would obstruct the view from Baxter Lane. Mr. Willett noted that
the hard line of the canopy is a distraction from the main building. Mr. Solvie noted that he
is looking at the canopy as a customer, not as a planner or a Design Review Board.
Mr. Gleye noted that the building itself is not the important feature, it is the ensemble. He
concurred with Mr. Willett that the flat canopy doesn't add to the project. The peaked roof
would enrich the structures and add color to the project. He commented that the pilasters
may be too much. He complimented the project and noted that details such as knee braces
are important. He stated that the view from the street is most significant. He noted the hand
rail is insignificant. However, the screening is important, but could be horizontal and
vertical rather than diagonal.
Ms. Walker inquired if the Bozeman Municipal Code requires canopies. Planning Director
Epple noted that all entryway gas stations and convenience stores are required to have
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matching canopies. Ms. Walker noted a concern about the changing of the conditions at will
as it could create a precedent for others to do the same. She continued that the island,
convenience store, and motel don't all go together as they are. Mr. Cruwys concurred and
stated that the mansard roof is needed on the canopy to tie the project together.
MOTION: Mr. Gleye moved that project revisions be recommended for approval as
follows: t) the roof canopy parapet be constructed as approved; 2) the pilasters be
eliminated, however the knee braces shall be constructed; 3) the safety rail be eliminated;
and 4) the mechanical equipment screening be approved with the side walls enclosed with a
dryvit surface, if that is permissible by the code, or, if a solid wall screen is not permitted,
as approved by the Planning Office as per code. Mr. Willett seconded the amendment.
In the discussion that followed, Mr. Cruwys noted that the knee braces may not be
necessary. Ms. Walker and Chairperson Chisholm concurred. The Chairperson noted that
some additional detail could enhance the project, however. He continued that the knee
braces wouldn't need to be a condition, but could be a recommendation. Mr. Willett
concurred. He noted that signage that's been added to the walls break up the large flat
surfaces. AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION: Ms. Walker moved to amend the motion to
make the addition of the knee braces a recommendation. Chairperson Chisholm seconded the
motion. The amendment to the motion carried 4 - 1, with Mr. Gleye casting the nay vote.
Ms. Walker noted that the motion as it now reads doesn't eliminate the lattice screening.
Discussion ensued on the structure of the screening. Mr. Solvie asked if they could paint the
equipment and leave the machinery exposed. Chairperson Chisholm noted that the City
doesn't allow the machinery to be exposed and some kind of screening is required. Mr.
Solvie volunteered to paint the silver pipe green and put some wood strips across the
openings for screening. AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION: Mr. Gleye moved to amend
the motion to revise the condition of enclosure to a series of vertical and horizontal beams
subject to staff approval, and the painting of the mechanical equipment the same green as the
roof. Ms. Walker seconded the amendment. The amendment to the motion carried 5 - 0.
The main motion, as twice amended, carried 5 - 0.
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ITEM 4. INFORMAL REVIEW
A. GIBSON GUITAR Informal (Skelton)
1894 Orville Way
- An Informal Review to discuss the expansion of Gibson Guitar
and the effect it may have on the current Improvements Agreement for
the dust collector installed last year.
Planner Dave Skelton introduced Mr. J.R. Reynolds, Mr. Tom Milleson, and Mr.
Eric Klotz to the DRB. Discussion of the proposal followed..
ITEM 5. DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. Deviation Criteria
Planning Director Epple suggested that this item be held over to
another meeting. The DRB concurred.
B. Resolution #DRB-9641
Submittal requirements and completeness
Discussion was held on the draft resolution. Some changes were made
and the edited draft resolution will be forwarded to DRB members in
the next packet.
ITEM 6. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 5:20 p.m.
Cliff thisholm, Chairperson, Design Review Board
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