HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-12-1999 DRC Minutes DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, JANUARY 12, 1999, 10:00 A.M.
MINUTES
Members Present: Roger Sicz, Greg Megaard, Neil Poulsen, Dave Skelton, Craig Brawner, Phill
Forbes
Staff Present: Debbie ArkelI, Joni Killebrew, Therese Berger, Carol Schott, James Nickelson,
Rick Hixson
Visitors Present: Kai Tang, Lowell Springer, Jesse Sobrepena, Chris Passano, Dave Rutledge,
Gene Cook, Dan Schmidt, Joe Schwen, David Jarrett, Tom Henesh, Gary
Zimmer, Brenda O'Connor, Kim Walker, Steve Daines, Terry Threlkeld
Chairperson Dave Skelton called the meeting to order at 10:05 a.m.
A. FINAL WEEK REVIEW
1. Grand Teton Plaza MiSP/COA - (Arkell)
810 North 7'h Avenue
- A Minor Site Plan/COA Application to remodel and add on to the Sunset
Motel, and convert it to retail uses
Assistant Planning Director Debbie Arkell reviewed the conditions from Planning Staff. Kai Tang
joined the DRC. Planner Arkell reviewed the application, noting the main issue is that the site
plan doesn't show accurate lot measurements. She noted it is the applicant's responsibility to
prepare an accurate site plan.
Project Engineer James Nickelson reviewed the conditions from Engineering Staff. Discussion
followed on the alignment of the driveway with the County Market driveway. Consensus was if
there is room, the drive aisle should be shifted to the east to align with the County Market drive
aisle. City Engineer Craig Brawner recommended the sidewalk easement be located on the
property not on the State Highway easement, otherwise, snow removal would be difficult.
Greg Megaard asked Planner Arkell asked for an explanation of the drive access to be eliminated.
She indicated the changes proposed. Mr. Megaard noted there will be a requirement for a
hammerhead or an access all the way through at the end of the driveway as it is too long. Mr.
Brawner asked if the access would be kept open through the neighboring parking lot. Planner
Arkell indicated the access proposed and the requirements.
Planner Arkell reviewed Water/Sewer Superintendent Mike Certalic's comments.
Mr. Nickelson moved, Mr. Sicz seconded, to approve the application per the conditions of the
DRC. The motion carried 5-0.
Chairperson Skelton reviewed the procedure for appealing a DRC decision.
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2. Firebird Apartments MiSP - (Sherman)
3125 South 15" Avenue
- A Minor Site Plan Application to construct two tri-plex and one four-plex
apartment buildings
Chris Passano and Joe Schwem joined the DRC. In Urban Designer/Planner John Sherman's
absence, Senior Planner/Chairperson Dave Skelton presented the conditions from Planning Staff.
He reviewed letters that have been received by the Planning Office in regard to this application,
then distributed copies of the letters and the conditions of Planning Staff.
Project Engineer James Nickelson reviewed the conditions from Engineering Staff.
Fire Inspector Greg Megaard noted fire sprinklers will be required.
Chairperson Skelton noted that letters had been received from Brian Zimmer, Brian and Brenda
O'Conner, and Arnold and Chris Dood of 221 South 14th Avenue. He asked if any one in the
audience wished to speak.
Gary Zimmer, property owner to the north, noted the number of units, parking, and the number of
retention ponds are a concern. Chairperson Skelton noted that even though the application may
be approved, it may be difficult to meet the conditions of approval. City Engineer Craig Brawner
noted that the easement for a shared access and the lengths of the driveways are problems that
could kill the project. Chairperson Skelton noted it is up to the applicant to request variances to
meet the conditions or revise the site plans.
Project Engineer James Nickelson moved, Streets/Sanitation Superintendent Roger Sicz
seconded, to conditionally approve the application per the conditions of the DRC. Mr. Brawner
clarified that the site plan will have to be revised and perhaps will require a new application.
Chairperson Skelton explained how the revisions will be evaluated. Mr. Brawner noted the
infrastructure requirements need to meet the building permit requirements. (Public Services
Director Phill Forbes arrived.) Mr. Brawner explained the time element in meeting the
requirements. Chairperson Skelton reiterated that the variances could not be supported by Staff.
The motion carried 5-0.
Chairperson Skelton reviewed the appeal procedure. He noted be will have a letter to the
applicant by tomorrow.
B. SECOND WEEK REVIEW
1. Big O Tire CUP/COA #Z-98215 - (Killebrew)
620 North 7th Avenue
- A Conditional Use Permit Application with a Certificate of Appropriateness to
allow the construction of a 4,508 sq. ft. retail/service facility relative to an automotive
tire facility.
Lowell Springer and Jesse Sobrepena joined the DRC. Assistant Planner Joni Killebrew noted she
found no red flag issues. She noted 12 parking spaces will be required plus one handicapped
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space. She asked the applicant if there are any pictures on the building. Mr. Sobrepena noted
there are some above the overhead doors that are shielded by the awnings. Planner Killebrew
asked if there would be any roof-mounted mechanical equipment. Mr. Springer and Mr.
Sobrepena noted the location of the mechanical equipment.
Project Engineer Rick Hixson reviewed concerns of Engineering Staff, including drop and regular
curbing and access issues.
Streets/Sanitation Superintendent Roger Sicz noted the dumpster detail should be discussed with
Mark at the City Shops for approval. Mr. Brawner noted the preferred location for the sidewalk,
whoever, he doesn't mind a curvilinear alignment,
2. Allison MiSub Preliminary Plat #P-9859 - (ArkelT
Arnold Street
A Minor Subdivision Preliminary Plat Application to create 4 lots and a
remainder tract.
Dave Jarrett and Tom Henesh ioined the DRC. Assistant Planning Director Debbie Arkell
presented the application, noting the application will be heard by the Planning Board on February
2. She reviewed the resolution of minor issues. Mr. Jarrett noted be had checked the test pits for
water today, and only one had water in it at 8'6", therefore, based on the results from the test pit
data, he is planning full basements.
City Engineer Craig Brawner suggested rather than easements with the school, perhaps an
eccentric cul-de-sac be located at the west end of Arnold Street. Planner Arkell noted a 310
permit will be required to encroach into the stream setback.
Streets/Sanitation Superintendent Roger Sicz noted no parking will be allowed along that part of
Arnold Street for the safety of the children. Mr. Henesh noted he can see no parking on the south
side, but not on the north.
3. Comfort Inn MaSP/COA #Z-99212 - (Berger)
1370 North 71h Avenue
- A Major Site Plan Application with a Certificate of Appropriateness to allow
the construction of a 44 room, 22,350 sq. ft. addition to the existing Comfort Inn and
related site improvements.
Gene Cook and Dan Schmidt joined the DRC. Assistant Planner Therese Berger presented the
DRC members and the application, noting the concerns of the members last week. She noted she
has questions for the Committee on conditions from the 1996 application.
Project Engineer Karen Finke reviewed the Oak Street right-of-way. City Engineer Craig
Brawner noted that if they want the sidewalk on private property, then an easement shall be given.
Mr. Cook noted he would rather have it on City property. Mr. Brawner noted the sidewalk will
be installed when Oak Street is extended. Discussion followed on the possible extension of the
street happening this summer. Ms. Finke noted the storm water calcs need to be reviewed.
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Greg Megaard reviewed the conditions from Fire Marshal Chuck Winn.
Mr. Brawner added he would discourage large truck from parking on the street. He suggested
parking for trailers, U-hall type trucks, etc. be included. Mr. Cook noted that he doesn't want
large truck parked in his lot. He noted the truckers parked on the street are usually staying in
their trucks.
Planner Berger asked about the parking lot improvements that were required in 1996 and if they
had been completed. Mr. Cook noted they will loose 12-15 parking spaces. He plans to rebuild
the parking lot prior to building the addition during the work season of 1999. He noted he plans
to begin the addition in September of 1999. Mr. Brawner noted that a gravel surface for a
temporary surface is acceptable. Planner Berger asked about the condition regarding sidewalks.
She reviewed the conditions being presented to DRB this afternoon. She asked for DRC input on
the pedestrian access recommendation. She suggested the addition of pedestrian accesses and the
addition of pavers through the landscaping islands. Mr. Cook noted he'd rather paint walkways
on the driveways. Planner Berger noted the 1996 approval required the removal of the storage
shed and the coffee shop. Mr. Cook noted the coffee shop will be removed tomorrow, it is there
on a month to month basis.
4. O'Malley ZMA#Z-98210 - (Skelton)
3316 and 3318 West Babcock Street
- A Zone Map Amendment to re-zone an 8.75 acre tract of land from Gallatin
County Zoning District One, currently zoned "RR"Rural Residential, and initiate a
Bozeman Zone Map designation of R-3, "Residential, Medium" Density District,
Kim Walker joined the DRC. Senior Planner/Chairperson Dave Skelton presented the
application. He noted the DRC's job with this application is to offer suggestions to the applicant
for the zone change possibility. He noted that Ravalli Street will need to be continued. He
reviewed Mike Certalic's comments.
Ms. Walker noted that Dennis Balian had started, however, didn't complete the annexation, and
the applicant was advised by the Planning Staff to resubmit for annexation. Mr. Brawner noted
that both sewer and water will need to be stubbed through when West Babcock Street is extended
especially on the north end.
Mr. Brawner noted the sewer capacity should not be a problem.
Ms. Walker asked that when Fowler is extended, how far will it extend into this property. Mr.
Brawner noted the plan is for a 100 foot right-of-way, with 50 feet on each side of the property
line. He noted that the estimated 15 feet shown on the plans is close.
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C. FIRST WEEK OF A TWO WEEK REVIEW
1. Aldworth MiSub Pre-Application #P-9861 - (Arkel>
Sourdough Road, t/< mile north of Kagy
A Major Subdivision Pre-Application Application to divide 6.2 acres into three
residential lots.
Assistant Planning Director Debbie Arkell presented the application noting application is for a
Major Subdivision. She reviewed the existing structures, existing lots, and the realignment of lot
lines. She noted she and Mr. Forbes had looked at the property early last summer for the
aggregation of the lots into tracts. Mr. Brawner noted the applicant will be giving half of the
right-of-way for the extension of Sourdough Road. He asked if the portion lying outside City
limits should be annexed. Discussion followed on annexation, vacation of Ida Street and the alley,
width of the right-of-way, the availability of sewer and water from Sourdough Road, problems
with the grade of the access, fire protection, Sourdough Road right-of-way dedication, the
abandonment of the easement for Ida.
Planner Arkell noted that both the City and County Commissions would have to approve the
subdivision, unless the applicant annexes the portion located outside the City. Mr. Brawner noted
that if the slope is so steep, the applicant would have to get approval from DEQ. Discussion
followed on the reN iew criteria.
2. Genesis MaSub Pre-Application #P-9860 - (Skelton)
Stucky Road
- A Major Subdivision Pre-Application Application to divide 32.45 acres into 28
professional office/multi-family residential lots.
Steve Dairies and Terry Threlkeld joined the DRC. Senior Planner/Chairperson Dave Skelton
presented the application, noting the conditions that will be imposed, including waivers for
realignment of Stucky, signalization of 19th and Stucky. Sam Gianfrancisco noted the County
visualizes that Stucky will become a cul-de-sac someday. Chairperson Skelton noted that Brian
Crandall, RAE Fire District, has asked the applicant to provide a stand alone fire protection.
Mr. Gianfrancisco noted that the proposal has no secondary access. Mr. Dairies noted they have
been looking at several options. He asked if a horseshoe drive would be acceptable. Mr.
Gianfrancisco noted it would with one way in and one way out. He noted he would still rather
see a second access. He also had a concern with the radii presented as they don't meet the County
standards. Also need a hammerhead or cul-de-sac at the end of the road. He noted a no access
strip would be required along the road. Stucky Road will have to be paved to at least a County
standard. Discussion followed on the cuI-de-sacking of Stucky Road. Mr. Threlkeld asked for
the schedule for the Kagy improvements. Mr. Forbes noted it is at least 5 years out.
Mr. Forbes asked if the east lot has access from 19th. Mr. Threlkeld noted it does. Discussion
continued on the accesses, north/south streets, the alignment of A Street and C Street, the number
of phases, the roads required in phase 1, the use of central water and sewer. Craig recommended
the sewer and water be laid out to City specs to allow connection to City services. Sam noted
that ground water is high in that location. Discussion followed on degradation of the waste
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water, the amount of waste water estimated, an SBR system, secondary treatment needs, the
required land area for the SBR system, the discharge permit soon to be required, the cost of
installation and operation of the SBR system.
For the Betterment of the DRC:
Chief Building Official Neil Poulsen noted there is a first hearing today in Helena on SB 91 on
exterritorial area. He explained the impact on City services including building inspection. He
noted the City has jurisdiction over the islands of county land within the City. He reported on
another bill on affordable housing that will affect all City departments.
Mr. Sicz moved, Mr. Nickelson seconded, to adjourn the meeting, the motion carried 6-0.
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