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HomeMy WebLinkAbout06-02-1998 DRC Minutes DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY,JUNE 2, 1998, 10:00 A.M. MINUTES Members Present: Dave Skelton, Mike Certalic, Phill Forbes,Neil Poulsen, Craig Brawner, Chuck Winn Staff Present: Karen Finke, Chris Saunders, Jody Olsen, Debbie Arkell, Andrew Epple, Carol Schott, Rick Hixson, James Nickelson Visitors Present: Kip Gilbert, Rolland Schumacher, Gene Graf, Chris Wasia, Per Hjalmarsson, Brad Daws, Dave Jarrett, Scott Bell, Lowell Springer, John Best Chairperson Dave Skelton called to order at 10:00 a.m. A. FINAL WEEK REVIEW l. ABC Rental- Continued Rolland Schumacher joined the DRC. Chairperson Skelton reviewed the conversation with the Planning Director and his conditions. Project Engineer Karen Finke reviewed her one condition. Chairperson Skelton reviewed Water/Sewer Interim Superintendent Mike Certalic's conditions. Mr. Certalic commented on the need for an oil/grit separator. Project Engineer James Nickelson moved, Mr. Certalic seconded, to approve the application with conditions of the DRC. The motion carried 7-0. 2. KMMS CUP Z-9855 - (Saunders) Griffin Drive A Conditional Use Permit Application to allow the installation of an A.M. broadcast tower for the use of KMMS. Kip Gilbert joined the DRC. Assistant Planner Chris Saunders reviewed his conditions. Water/Sewer Interim Superintendent Mike Certalic noted he turned in comments two weeks ago. Project Engineer Karen Finke had no comments. Public Service Director Phill Forbes noted a waiver may be required for signal at Griffin and Rouse. Chief Building Official Neil Poulsen noted they will need a permit when they get to that point. Ms. Finke moved, Mr. Certalic seconded, to recommend conditional as per conditions of DRC. The motion carried 6-0. Planner Saunders reviewed the schedule for Planning Board and City Commission. B. SECOND WEEK OF A THREE WEEK REVIEW 1. O'Malley Annex #A-9805 - (Olsen) Development Review Committee Minutes-June 2 1 East of the intersection of Fowler Avenue and Ravalli Street An Annexation Application to annex 8 acres. There were no representatives present for the applicant. Assistant Planner Jody Olsen presented the application. She noted they need to submit a Zone Map Amendment Application to develop this property. It was formerly known as the Balian Annexation, however, Chairperson Skelton noted they didn't follow through with the annexation agreement. Discussion followed on the dedicated width and the need for additional width for the future extension and expansion of Fowler Street. Project Engineer Karen Finke noted that water and sewer mains are located in Babcock Street. Water/Sewer Interim Superintendent Mike Certalic reviewed his comments. Discussion followed on the waivers that would be required for street improvements, signals, etc. 2. Gallatin Center Concept/Pre-ap#Z-9859/#P-9820 - (Arkell) West of N. 19`h Avenue between Baxter Lane and Valley Center Drive A Concept PUD and a Major Subdivision Pre-Application Applications to allow the subdivision of 142.36 acres into 24 commercial PUD lots. Gene Graf, Dave Jarrett, Scott Bell, and Chris Wasia joined the DRC. Assistant Planning Director Debbie Arkell reviewed the application, noting the extension of Catron Street and its maintenance and phasing. Project Engineer James Nickelson gave a progress report on the water SID. Mr. Graf asked where the easements and extensions were needed. Mr. Nickelson noted an easement for water and sewer service to Rolf s property is needed. Mr. Graf agreed and discussion followed on the location for the service. Discussion followed on Thomas Street being a collector. Mr. Jarrett noted that Carl VanDerMolen and the owner of this property have the street aligned on drawings he saw recently. Discussion followed on the alignment of Thomas Street and keeping it as a collector. Mr. Graf described the alignment on the north end of the property. Mr. Graf asked if they need a variance in addition to the PUD. Planner Arkell noted that the PUD will take care of the variance. Mr. Graf noted that if the street name needs to be changed, he is agreeable. Chairperson Skelton asked why there is a private landscape easement as it will discourage a trail system through there. He noted it conflicts with the North 19th Corridor Plan, and the City needs a public access easement. Discussion followed on the need for a bicycle path/pedestrian easement. Chairperson Skelton noted as long as there is a provision for a public easement through the property, it will be great. Mr. Jarrett asked if the DRC group reviewed the submittal. Planner Arkell noted submittals are reviewed by the Planning Office for completeness. Chairperson Skelton noted that comments are due next week. Development Review Committee Minutes-June 2 3. Rose Park Pre-ap#P-9818 - (Skelton) North of Emily Dickinson School and Oak Street - A Major Subdivision Pre-Application Application to subdivide 9.642 acres into 24 residential, multiple family lots. (This item was discussed after Tange MiSub discussion.) Brad Daws and Lowell Springer joined the DRC. Chairperson/Planner Skelton presented the application. Mr. Springer noted that Scott Bell of Morrison-Maierle was in the audience to answer questions. Chairperson/Planner Skelton reviewed comments from last week. Mr. Springer discussed the street width needed for an arterial, such as Oak Street. City Engineer Craig Brawner asked what the plan shows, which Mr. Springer explained. Discussion followed on the street width, existing and required, the elimination of access between 19th and 25th, the transitioning of Oak Street and at what point it will occur,the looping of the water line, the location of the park along the existing linear park east of Brentwood, and an emergency access from the cul-de-sac. Project Engineer James Nickelson noted that 25th street would be required to be 32 feet wide, with additional width for the curb and gutter. Chairperson/Planner Skelton asked if North 25th Avenue needs to continue and connect to Annie Street. Mr. Brawner and Public Service Director Phill Forbes noted it should. Mr. Springer asked if there will any impact on his project for the light to be installed on North 19'h Avenue. Chairperson/Planner Skelton noted it would. Mr. Springer noted that all the owners are willing to work together to accomplish the extension of Oak Street, the design and construction of the intersection of Oak Street and North 19'h Avenue, and the design and construction of North 25'h Avenue. Mr. Springer distributed a rough draft for the definition of the conditions, for projects involved in the CIP list, providing for impact fee credits. Mr. Brawner noted it reads as an agreement. Mr. Forbes noted that it may be the time for this type of agreement as the City Commission made changes in the impact fees yesterday. Mr. Brawner noted this establishes who is doing what and covers cost sharing. Chairperson/Planner Skelton asked if the parks will be private. Mr. Springer noted they will be what ever is needed by the City. Chairperson/Planner Skelton noted there is a need for preliminary plans for the transition of Oak Street. Mr. Certalic noted the size of the water and sewer mains in Oak Street and North 25'Avenue. Mr. Brawner noted there is no storm drainage shown. Chairperson/Planner Skelton noted there needs to be a full traffic study done for the preliminary plat. C. INITIAL WEEK OF A THREE WEEK REVIEW 1. Tange MiSub Preliminary Plat#P-9827 - (Arkell) 75 Baxter Lane - A Minor Subdivision Preliminary Plat Application to create 5 commercial lots on 20.2 acres. (This item was discussed before the Rose Park review.) Per Hjalmarsson joined the DRC. Assistant Planning Director Debbie Arkell presented the application, noting it had been reviewed informally in March. She reviewed concerns brought up during the informal review. Discussion Development Review Committee Minutes-June 2 3 followed on the location of water and sewer mains and the completion of North 11 th Avenue. City Engineer Craig Brawner noted his concern with Lot 4 in that if it is developed without North I 1 th Avenue being installed, it would be difficult to get it installed after the fact. He suggested no large development of Lot 4 until 11 th Avenue is installed. Planner Arkell asked if there is a need for an access from Hampton Inn for a utility easement. Mr. Brawner noted a utility easement is probably not necessary, however, some sort of private access between all the hotels would better serve the hotels. Planner Arkell noted there will be two more opportunities to review this application. It goes to the Planning Board on June 16th. Public Service Director Phill Forbes asked about the existing waivers on this property. Planner Arkell will research the existing waivers. Mr. Forbes asked what will trigger the widening of Oak Street. Mr. Brawner noted that Oak Street should be widened with this subdivision. Mr. Hjalmarsson asked if this applies to the development of Lot 4 also. Mr. Brawner noted it would occur with the subdivision of the whole property. Planner Arkell asked when fire hydrants would be required. Project Planner James Nickelson noted that there are existing fire hydrants installed along the water main. Fire Marshal Chuck Winn noted that additional onsite hydrants will be required as each lot is developed. Discussion followed on the easements for sewer and water. Mr. Brawner noted there would be a paybacks due on the sewer. D. INFORMAL 1. Boast About It,Inc. Informal#I-9820 - (Epple) 910 North 171h Avenue - An Informal Application for advice and comment on an annexation. John Boast joined the DRC. Planning Director Andrew Epple introduced the application, noting there is water to the property, it is not contiguous to the City, and there are three houses on the lot. Mr. Boast wants to build three 4-plexes on the lot. He noted the sewer main location. He asked what the City's position is on annexing the whole area, including the trailer park. Planning Director Epple noted there has been discussion on annexation properties surrounded by the City, however this property is not surrounded. Water/Sewer Interim Superintendent Mike Certalic noted that the sewer is private within the mobile home park and the park is served by city sewer and water. Fire Marshal Chuck Winn noted the only way to support the annexation is if the whole property is annexed rather than just this one lot. He noted the properties in that area should be annexed as they receive all City services. Planning Director Epple noted if the property is annexed, Mr. Boast plans to build two 4-plexes. He is in favor of one with access from 17th, however, the second 4-plex would be held up until North 15th Street is completed for access. Mr. Certalic noted that the City can't service the 4- plex until an extension is installed. The existing one inch meter pit isn't large enough to serve it. Development Review Committee iblinutes-June 2 4 Mr. Brawner noted the access on the site plan would determine approval. Mr. Certalic noted the water services beyond the meter pit would remain private as they is below City standards. Mr. Brawner noted fire hydrants would have to be added. He noted a water main extension would be required to the existing homes, and access to the first 4-plex has to be a standard width. Mr. Boast noted there is a 28 foot easement for the shared access. The owner is willing to remove the existing building,but would rather not. Mr. Brawner noted that 24 feet is required for a two-way drive aisle. Planning Director Epple noted the first step is to annex the area. He suggested that when the project is brought back again, the site plan is required to have accurate dimensions. Mr. Boast asked if the area will be forced to annex by the City, if so, he wouldn't have to hire the engineers, etc. Planning Director Epple noted he will check with the Assistant City Manager to see the status of annexation of this area. He suggested Mr. Boast ask the neighbor to the south to annex at the same time, if the City isn't able to proceed with the annexation of the area at this time. Mr. Forbes moved, Mr. Brawner seconded to adjourn the meeting. The motion carried unanimously. Development Review Committee Minutes-June 2 5