HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-26-1998 DRC Minutes DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, MAY 26, 1998, 10:00 A.M.
MINUTES
Members Present: Craig Brawner, Neil Poulsen, Chuck Winn, Dave Skelton, Mike Certalic,
Phill Forbes
Staff Present: John Sherman, Carol Schott, Rick Hixson, James Nickelson,
Visitors Present: Gene Graf, Dave Crawford, Mark Chandler, Brad Daws, Kip Gilbert, Ray
Sperry, John Sperry, Phil Bailey, Bob Sevinth, Terry Threlkeld, Per Hjalnnarsson, Susan
Gianforte, Dave Crawford, Mark Chandler, Jerry Taylor, Randy Kolstad, John Miller,
Roland Schumaker, Bob Sevinth
Chairperson Dave Skelton called the meeting to order at 10:00 a.m.
A. FINAL WEEK REVIEW
1. Maus Annexation #A-9804 (01sen)
Meadow Lane
An Annexation Application to annex approximately 1/2 acre on Meadow
Lane to the City.
In Planner Olsen's absence, Chairperson Skelton presented the conditions and comments. Mark
Chandler and Per Hjalmarsson joined the DRC. Chairperson Skelton noted the prpoerty was
being annexed to get City sewer and water. He noted that Public Service Director was concerned
about receiving cash in lieu of water, however, since this is a single family residence, the cash in
lieu will be determined on the commercial designation of the property.
Project Engineer James Nickelson reviewed Project Engineer Karen Finke's comments. City
Engineer Craig Brawner noted that no infrastructure has been installed and all will have to be
installed to City standards.
2. Powerhouse Technologies MiSP#Z-9847 - (Sherman)
2311 South 7" Avenue
- A Minor Site Plan Application to allow the construction of a 8,888 sq. ft.
building addition,the expansion of the existing parking lot, and related site
improvements.
Jerry Taylor, John Miller, and Randy Kosted joined the DRC. Urban Designer/Planner John
Sherman reviewed his conditions. He noted there have been 3 letters received by the Planning
Office regarding this project - (1)Gail and Don Perry who were for the building addition but don't
want street lights to shine into their backyard at night. (2)Overbrook Owners Association, Tim
Swanson, President, wants all lighting and landscaping to be brought into full compliance.
(3)Mr. Smyth noted the expansion is appropriate, however, the lighting shines into their home.
Planner Sherman reviewed the conditions.
Jerry Taylor is in agreement with the conditions of the Planning Office.
Project Engineer Rick Hixson noted his recommended conditions. Terry Threlkeld noted that he
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will provide the specific needs for this submittal in condition#1. Mr. Hixson noted most
conditions are standard, then expanded the ones that are not.
Water/Sewer Interim Superintendent Mike Certalic noted one additional condition to be added to
last week's one condition.
Fire Marshal Chuck Winn had no issues.
Mr. Taylor noted that the installation of the curb on the corner would inhibit storm drainage for
the lot. Mr. Hixson asked if some drop curb could be installed. Mr. Miller asked for the purpose
of the curbing of this area. City Engineer Craig Brawner noted it is required by the Zone Code, it
protects the landscaping and the paving of the parking lot. Mr. Taylor asked who will determine
the number and size of drop curbs. Mr. Brawner noted that the Director of Public Service can
approve the flush curbing. He noted Mr. Taylor would have to propose something,then the
Public Service Director would look at it. Mr. Miller asked if it could be addressed when South
11 th Avenue or the drive aisle is installed. Mr. Brawner noted it would be good to plan the street
now so the curbing fits in with those plans. Mr. Miller noted further concerns with the curbing
along the ditch and the effect it will have on future expansion. Mr. Brawner noted they can plan
for the future at this point. He noted that the deviation from the Zone Code would have to be
granted by the governing body.
Mr. Hixson moved, Building Official Neil Poulsen seconded, to approve the application as per the
conditions of the DRC. The motion carried 6-0.
3. ABC Rental MiSP#Z-9863 (Skelton)
1624 West Beall Street
- A Minor Site Plan Application to remodel the existing car wash to reduce
the number of bays; move the fence between ABC Rental and the Car Wash to
expand outside storage; and change on-site traffic circulation.
Roland Schumaker joined the DRC. Chairperson/Planner Skelton has asked Mr. Schumaker to
continue this application one week to allow him time to address the non-conforming sign issues.
Project Engineer James Nickelson reviewed his conditions. Chairperson/Planner Skelton
reviewed his conditions. A decision will be made on this matter at next week's regular scheduled
meeting of the D.R.C.
4. Gallatin Park Pre-ap #P-9823 (Saunders)
Manley Road
A Major Subdivision Pre-Application Application to divide 27,831 acres
into 35 lots.
Dave Crawford joined the DRC. In Planner Chris Saunders's absence, Chairperson Skelton
presented the project. Mr. Crawford pointed out the applicants plan to install a water main along
the north property line and provide a loop to North 7"Avenue. He continued,the sewer line runs
to the main that is adjacent to North 71h Avenue. He noted that Sam Gianfrancisco, County Road
Supervisor, wants the road paved all the way to the river and the City wants the water line
extended prior to the paving. He feels doing those two items to that extent would be costly to the
project.
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City Engineer Craig Brawner asked for further explanation of the water main proposal. Mr.
Crawford explained the placement of the water main in the center of the line of Manley Road. He
noted they are thinking of installing a 6" stub every other lot to provide fire protection and
domestic service. Water/Sewer Interim Superintendent Mike Certalic noted that 6" stubs might
be workable. Mr. Brawner noted the City will work it out with the developer.
Mr. Brawner noted that in regard to the revisions on the sewer main, Mr. Crawford will need to
do further research, prior to the preliminary plat to be sure it will meet the load restrictions.
Discussion followed on the capacity of the North 7"Avenue sewer main.
Project Engineer James Nickelson reviewed Project Engineer Karen Finke's comments.
Mr. Certalic noted his comments were given two weeks ago. Chairperson Skelton noted that
Planner Saunders will combine the comments in letter form in the near future.
Mr. Crawford noted that Ms. Finke's comment#16, for the installation of the utility, the 30 foot
easement becomes a 31 foot easement.
B. SECOND WEEK OF A THREE WEEK REVIEW
1. KMMS CUP Z-9855 - (Saunders)
Griffin Drive
A Conditional Use Permit Application to allow the installation of an A.M.
broadcast tower for the use of KMMS.
Kip Gilbert and Per Hjalmarsson joined the DRC. Chairperson Skelton noted that next week a
decision will be made. In Planner Saunders's absence, Chairperson Skelton reviewed Planning
Staffs comments.
Water/Sewer Interim Superintendent Mike Certalic noted he gave his comments last week. Dave
reviewd them.
There were no comments from Engineering.
Chief Building Official Neil Poulsen noted if they are running an electrical connection, they will
need to apply for an electrical permit.
C. INITIAL WEEK OF A THREE WEEK REVIEW
1. O'Malley Annex #A 9805 - (Olsen)
East of the intersection of Fowler Avenue and Ravalli Street
An Annexation Application to annex 8 acres.
In Planner Olsen's absence, Chairperson Skelton introduced the application. He noted the last
time this property was proposed for annexation, there were waivers on improvements to Babcock
and Fowler Streets, signalization, and cash in lieu of water rights.
Project Engineer James Nickelson noted there is a need for an easement for Pond Row and
Babcock Streets.
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2. Gallatin Center Concept/Pre-ap #Z-9859/#P-9820 - (Arkell)
West of N. 19"Avenue between Baxter Lane and Valley Center Drive
A Concept PUD and a Major Subdivision Pre-Application Applications to
allow the subdivision of 142.36 acres into 24 commercial PUD lots.
Gene Graf joined the DRC. In Planner Arkell's absence, Chairperson Skelton presented the
application. Mr. Graf noted the location of water as installed by Costco, the possible location of a
Target store, and possible fire protection needs for the fall construction of Target.
City Engineer Craig Brawner asked about the access shown on the northwest side. Mr. Graf
noted there will be two accesses -one from Valley Center Road and one from N. 19"Avenue.
Mr. Brawner noted there may be a need for signalization at Catron Street and Valley Center
Road. Project Engineer James Nickelson noted they will probably need a water main extension
for fire protection.
Mr. Graf noted he had received a call from Mr. Crawford of T, D, and H about the land to the
west. Mr. Graf noted there is some interest expressed by those property owners in joining the
SID for the water. Project Engineer James Nickelson noted that changing the SID at this point is
impossible.
Mr. Brawner noted there would be a waiver for signalization at Baxter Road and North 19'
Avenue. He also noted somewhere along the way,the question of secondary access will have to
be discussed and addressed.
Mr. Nickelson asked if there is a 60'right-of-way proposed for the street. Mr. Graf noted he
wasn't sure, then discussed the connection to a private road.
Mr. Nickelson asked what sort of development would occur in the blue, middle section. Mr. Graf
noted they don't have any ideas at this point.
Discussion followed on fire protection, water mains, and the schedule for the water main
installation.
3. Rose Park Pre-ap#P-9818 - (Skelton)
North of Emily Dickinson School and Oak Street
A Major Subdivision Pre-Application Application to subdivide 9.642 acres
into 24 residential,multiple family lots.
Brad Daws joined the DRC. Chairperson/Planner Skelton presented the application, noting the
proposal is for 4-plex lots. Discussion followed on the extension of West Oak Street, the 8"
water main shown on the plans, which is actually a 10" main, and what will be required for North
25th street. Mr. Daws noted the proposed street extensions. Dave discussed timing of North
25th improvements, signalization of Oak Street and North 19'''Avenue, and the designation of
Oak Street as an arterial or collector.
Mr. Daws noted they plan to write real strong covenants restricting the design to 4 specific
designs for the buildings, a proposed footprint, parking lot lighting, and stormwater maintenance
all for townhouses or condos. Chairperson Skelton noted that lots 7 and 18 may be difficult for
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the installation of 4 plexes after the utilities are installed in the proper easements.
Chairperson Skelton noted the biggest obstacle will be to upgrade North 25th Street from it's
existing terminus as an improved street. He noted there are no waivers connected with the school
district to participate in the improvements to North 25"Street. City Engineer Craig Brawner
noted that the right-of-way is there,the challenge will be paying for the improvements. He noted
that storm drainage also is required to be included on the preliminary plat.
D. INFORMAL
1. Sperry#I-9819 - (Skelton)
Lot 50, Bridger Creek
An Informal Application for advise and direction in changing the
designation of the residential units to townhouses.
Ray and John Sperry joined the DRC. Mr. John Sperry noted he needs to change the condos into
townhouses. He noted how he will meet with the building code issues,but asked for advice on
the water service. Mr. Ray Sperry noted that there may be a precedent set on Lot 48 for changing
condos to townhouses. Water/Sewer Interim Superintendent Mike Certalic noted the difference
between Lot 48 and this lot is that Lot 48 has a 2 inch water service and Lot 50 has a 1 inch.
Discussion followed on the options for cutting the street for two more water services and the
criteria for the 7 year moratorium.
Mr. Ray Sperry asked if there are any other constraints on this property to prevent the creation of
townhouses with these units. Mr. Certalic noted that for townhouses, there would be a need for a
total of 4 sewer stubs and 4 water stubs.
For the Betterment of the DRC.
Mr. Certalic suggested moving the DRC meetings to another location due to the noise level
upstairs and the occupancy load of this room. Fire Marshal Chuck Winn noted the occupancy
load is 25, and there were 26 people occupying the room at one time today. Chairperson Skelton
noted he would look into the issue.
Mr. Certalic moved, Mr. Forbes seconded, that the meeting be adjourned.
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