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HomeMy WebLinkAbout02-03-1998 DRC Minutes DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE FEBRUARY 3, 1998 MINUTES Members Present: Mike Certalic, Craig Brawner,Neil Poulsen, Chuck Winn, Dave Skelton, John McNeil Staff Present: Debbie Arkell, Jody Olsen, Chris Saunders, Karen Finke, James Nickelson, Kirsten Emborg, Carol Schott Visitors Present: Doug Price, Carl Jaynes, Roger White, Jim Ullman, Keith Belden, Mike Potter, Tom Henesh, Scott Bell, Lowell Springer, Joe Sabol, Tim Howard Vice-Chairperson Chuck Winn called the meeting to order at 10:00 a.m. A. FINAL WEEK OF A TWO WEEK REVIEW 1. Sundance Springs Subdivision Ph, 2 & 3, Pre-application - (Arkell) North of Goldenstein Road, East of South 3zd - A Pre-application Application to allow the subdivision of 68.35 acres into 75 single family lots. Vice-Chairperson Winn introduced the application. Keith Belden, Jim Ullman, and Mike Potter joined the DRC. Assistant Planning Director Debbie Arkell noted that she needs final comments from staff by this Friday. She reviewed the application, noting that Phase one has to be completed before the Preliminary Plat for Phases two and three can be accepted. She noted the requirements that are left to complete for Phase one to be finished. Water/Sewer Interim Superintendent Mike Certalic reviewed his conditions, noting that most are standard. Planner Arkell noted that the conditions need to have the wording changed from "Preliminary" to "Final'. Project Engineer James Nickelson reviewed his conditions. Vice-Chairperson/Fire Marshal Chuck Winn reviewed his letter to Morrison-Maierle. He asked that it be entered into the record. (All staff reports and letters are on file in the Planning Office.) Mr. Potter noted that the frustrating thing for them is the linear park setback. He noted it is inconsistent with what was understood with Phase 1, a fifty foot stream setback that would contain the linear park. He discussed lot sizes, building envelopes, and setbacks in conjunction with the linear park and its setback. He noted that especially along the north end, the 50 foot extra setback is a real problem. Planner Arkell discussed how the approved PUD could relax the setbacks. She noted that in Phase 1 all the lots meet the 50 foot setback requirement. She noted condition#27 on parkland dedication came from the Park and Rec Board. City Engineer Craig Brawner noted there are two engineering issues: one,the department wants to avoid designing the infrastructure phase by phase as the applicant builds out the project. He Development Review Committee Minutes-February 3,1998 1 noted that plans and specs for the whole development are required. Second issue - Sundance Drive is a very long, dead-end, street. He noted a second access through Sundance Drive should be installed in these phases. Planner Arkell concurred that it needs to be brought up again before City Commission, even though they and the County Road Superintendent did not support the second access during Phase 1. Mr. Potter thanked the City Engineering Department for their cooperation in the phasing of the improvements. He noted that the applicants don't want to go against the public grain by extending Sundance Drive. Mr. Brawner noted even though it wasn't a requirement of the first approval, it is still a suggestion with these phases. Vice-Chairperson Winn asked everyone to forward comments to Planner Arkell by Friday. She noted a letter would be sent out early next week. B. INITIAL WEEK REVIEW l. Madison Place Apartments Major Site Plan#Z-9812 - (Olsen) 415/427 Michael Grove Avenue - A Major Site Plan Application to allow the development of a 50-unit apartment complex (five 10-plexes) with a management/community building. Planner Jody Olsen presented the application. Discussion followed on projects in the immediate area. Vice-Chairperson Winn asked for the locations of on-site fire hydrants. Water/Sewer Interim Superintendent Mike Certalic noted he doesn't have any as-builts to review against the current plans. Project Engineer Karen Finke noted concerns she and former Water/Sewer Superintendent Larry Woodward had when briefly reviewing the infrastructure sheet in early September. Discussion ensued on fire hydrant locations, sewer main extensions, locations of drives and garages, drive accesses, parking requirements, the requirement that some of the apartments are to be adaptable for accessible apartments and parking designated for them. Project Engineer James Nickelson asked Planner Olsen to have the applicant provide as-builts. Vice-Chairperson Winn noted some concerns about access for emergency equipment. He noted that there doesn't seem to be a way to access the farthest portions of the buildings. He suggested sprinklering the buildings rather than wide sidewalks around to the rear of the buildings. He noted the need for adequate turning radii at the end of the dead-end street. Mr. Certalic noted that there isn't an adequate water supply for sprinklering the building, however, there is an adequate supply for domestic water. Vice-Chairperson Winn noted that there is a fence indicated around the property, therefore, access will have to be on the sidewalks. John McNeil, Rec and Parks Department, asked if the City has done anything with the money for the parks. Associate Planner Chris Saunders noted that the City can accept the money, but has no authority to spend it. Planner Olsen noted the applicant will attend next week's meeting and she will ask for as-builts prior to the meeting. Development Review Committee Minutes-February 3,1998 2 2. Fred's Mesquite Grill CUP #Z-9810 - (Arkell) 451 East Main Street - A Conditional Use Permit Application to allow an existing restaurant to serve alcoholic beverages. Chairperson Skelton introduced the application. Assistant Planning Director Debbie Arkell presented the application, noting that the addition shown on the site plan will require an ADR/COA review. City Engineer Craig Brawner noted he has a concern about parking. Planner Arkell noted that the applicant had a lease for parking with Silent Knight Muffler, which has probably expired, as the land has changed hands. She will check into the parking agreement. Discussion followed on the possibility of a safety issue caused by customers backing into the street after the consumption of alcohol. Mr. Brawner noted that the addition will also make the parking spaces too short for regular sized vehicles. Planner Arkell noted that the applicant hasn't provided enough details for a review of the addition, however, it could be rolled into this submittal if the applicant decides to do it. 1. Learning Circle, Phases 2 & 3, CUP#Z-9805 - (Saunders) 3000 Block of Villard Street - A Conditional Use Permit Application to allow the construction of two 4,780 square foot classroom facilities and a 9,280 square foot gymnasium. Associate Planner Chris Saunders presented the application, reviewing concerns from Planning Staff, i.e., access for emergency vehicles, landscaping located over sewer lines, amount of parking for gym is questionable, and the lack of outdoor playground area except for the park. Fire Marshal Chuck Winn discussed fire code requirements for schools as enrollments increase. Planner Saunders presented an alternative drawing which would provide open space for a playground. He noted there is no access from the north, west, or east to these lots. Chairperson Skelton noted that there is too much impact for the site with two more classrooms and a gymnasium. Planner Saunders noted there is a request to provide less parking than is required by code. Project Engineer Karen Finke and Water/Sewer Interim Superintendent Mike Certalic noted they need as-builts to review this project. John McNeil, Rec and Parks Department, noted this is a good example of why cash-in-lieu of parkland doesn't work for parks. 4. Armknecht Annexation #A-9801 - (Saunders) 5 Valley Drive - An Annexation Application to allow the annexation of an existing lot developed with a 4-plex, processed under Title 7, Chapter 2, Part 46, M.C.A. Associate Planner Chris Saunders presented the application. Fire Marshal Chuck Winn noted he is against this annexation as it isn't contiguous,the fire department would have to remember which house is fire protected and which ones aren't, and this will be precedent setting. Project Engineer James Nickelson noted there will be requirements for waivers for water main improvements, sewer improvements, and streets. Mr. Winn clarified his initial comment that if the sewer service can be provided in any way other than annexation, he would support it. Development Review Committee Minutes-February 3,1998 3 Planner Saunders asked if the lot is being served by a county road, if so, he has a problem with the road width. Chairperson Skelton noted he will check if the DRC is to make a recommendation to the City Commission, Mr. Winn noted that when this application goes to City Commission, he will be there to voice his concern. C. FYI 1. Status of Harvest Creek Subdivision Preliminary Plat - (Skelton) Keith Belden, Joe Sabol, Tim Howard, Scott Bell, and Tom Henesh joined the DRC. Chairperson/Planner Skelton asked Mr. Belden to explain the changes of the proposed subdivision. Mr. Belden noted the most significant changes -redesigning of the lots along N. 27 Avenue and reconfiguration of Oak Street and N. 27th Avenue to provide a median with the power line located in the center. He noted that one issue they need discussed is the width of the streets. They are proposing a 32 foot easement on Oak Street and a 28 foot easement on N. 27th Avenue. Mr. Brawner noted that it sounds good at first glance. Mr. Brawner noted that the applicants have defined two other phases. He noted the City will need to look at the location of the sewer and water lines for the whole development. Discussion ensued on storm water phasing, drainage issues, pressure reducing valves, and taps from Durston. Chairperson/Planner Skelton noted that there are four weeks to review this application. He noted the DRC plans to give preliminary conditions in three weeks for discussion with final conditions on March 3rd. 2. Status of Stoneridge PUD and Minor Subdivisions#1 and #2 - (Skelton) Lowell Springer, Scott Bell, and Tom Henesh joined the DRC. Mr. Springer distributed the revised Stoneridge plans. Chairperson/Planner Skelton presented the minor subs. He noted that this is an overall review of the PUD plus a review of two minor subdivisions, one at each end of the PUD. He noted that Minor#1 has a private street. He commented on getting a legal opinion on conditioning Lot 5 to allow the extension of N. 22nd. He discussed Minor#2 as being for hotels, restaurant, and the Chamber of Commerce building. Mr. Springer noted that the owner, Don Cape, is in agreement to participate in the improvements to Durston and N. 19th. Discussion followed on relaxing setbacks on the private streets. Mr. Brawner noted he'd much rather see a dedicated street, with regulation widths so that in a few years, if it becomes a city street, the widths are appropriate. Mr. Bell noted that the impacts of the traffic study show direct impacts on the adjacent streets and indirect impacts N. 19th Avenue and Oak Street. Mr. Henesh noted that Lots 1 and 3 will probably be sold to finance the infrastructure and install the Cape-France/Saccoccia water line to the Tange property. Discussion followed on water sizing and sewer facilities plans. Mr. Brawner noted the City should probably go ahead and build the sewer line now, perhaps using impact fee monies to help finance it. Development Review Committee Minutes-Febmary 3, 1998 4 Chairperson/Planner Skelton asked John McNeil if distributing this application to the Trails and Subdivision committees of the Parks and Rec Board is adequate. Mr. McNeil noted that should be sufficient. Chairperson/Planner Skelton noted that preliminary conditions will be distributed in three weeks, with the final conditions the following week. He asked for conditions independently for the minor subs and the PUD. For the Betterment of the DRC. Project Engineer Nickelson asked that the duration of the reviews be noted on the agendas. There being no further business,the meeting was adjourned. Development Review Committee'Anutes-February 3,1998 5