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HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-20-1998 DRC Minutes DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE JANUARY 20, 1998 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. Members Present: Roger Sicz, Mike Certalic, Craig Brawner, Phill Forbes, Dave Skelton, Chuck Winn Staff Present: Karen Finke, Rick Hixson, Chris Saunders, Carol Schott, Kirsten Emborg Visitors Present: Steve Anderson, James Goehrung Chairperson Dave Skelton called the meeting to order at 10:00 a.m. A. FINAL WEEK OF THREE WEEK REVIEW 1. River Run Concept PUD/Pre-Application #Z-97178/#P-9761 - (Saunders) Manley Road Concept Planned Unit Development and Major Subdivision Pre- Application Applications for a mixed-use planned unit development on roughly 89 acres and a 40 lot subdivision on 54.86+ acres, the part of the PUD that is residentially zoned, located on what has been formerly referred to as the Manley Property. This item was discussed second on the agenda. Steve Anderson joined the DRC. Streets/Sanitation Superintendent Roger Sicz noted he had talked to Planner Chris Saunders about the Manley Road, which will be a County road that will be maintained by the County. He noted that Chris was going to condition it as such. Mr. Sicz noted that he is not in favor of the private street, noting if it is a standard street then their site plan cannot have the hammerhead turnarounds. It was noted that the fire department was concerned about the turn grounds also. Project Engineer Karen Finke reviewed her comments, noting that most are not standard. (Staff Reports are on file in the Planning Office.) Planner Saunders asked if the applicant should plan to serve the whole 89+ acres with water(condition#10). City Engineer Craig Brawner noted the applicant should address the whole subdivision. Mr. Sicz asked Ms. Finke if she had included in her conditions waivers for improvements to the intersections at Manley Road and Griffin Drive. (Fire Marshal Chuck Winn arrived.) Planner Saunders noted those waivers were part of the Annexation agreement. Water/Sewer Interim Superintendent Mike Certalic reviewed his comments. He asked Mr. Anderson about the looping of the water. He and Mr. Anderson discussed looping scenarios. Ms. Finke noted that after last week's meeting, Larry Vosti had mentioned reconfiguring the lots to accommodate the dead-end extension. Mr. Anderson asked if the applicant could install a water main into the property 400 feet then stub from it. Mr. Certalic noted that would suffice, then noted the labeling on the plan isn't consistent. Development Review Committee Minutes-January 20,1998 1 Planner Saunders reviewed his comments, gave Mr. Anderson the comments from County Road Superintendent Sam Gianfrancisco. Mr. Brawner clarified Ms. Finke's condition#4a to add"all streams and ditches shall provide the proper easements" in place of"All other ditches shall be provided a 20' easement". Mr. Anderson asked what was needed for Ms. Finke's condition#4b dealing with the flood plain and the floor elevations of each lot. Engineer Rick Hixson noted that the finish floor elevations have to be located two feet above the established 100 year flood plain. Planner Saunders asked for the opinion of the DRC for the suggestion of having entirely private streets inside the development. He'd rather see all public or all private. Chairperson Skelton noted that the streets have to allow for on-street parking. Planner Saunders concurred. Chairperson Skelton noted that sidewalks and curb and gutter will be required. Mr. Brawner asked Mr. Anderson about the hammerheads, noting that the City doesn't allow them unless there is no other way to access the lots. This is an open field and can be designed without hammerheads. Mr. Brawner asked if the non-requirement of curb, gutter, and sidewalk on Manley Road would require a deviation. Planner Saunders noted it would not as this is a PUD. Chairperson Skelton asked DRC members to forward their comments to Planner Saunders. 2. Harvest Creek MaSub Preliminary Plat Application #P-9762 - (Skelton) 5461 Durston Road - A Major Subdivision Preliminary Plat Application to allow a phased subdivision of 149 acres, with phases 1-3 and a remainder the subject of this application. 235 lots will be created on 48.44 net acres for single family residential development. Formerly referred to as the Gateway Limited Partners Annexation. CONTINUED PENDING NEW SUBMITTAL This item was discussed first on the agenda. Chairperson/Planner Skelton distributed a letter to be sent to Joe Sabol and Bruce Foley. He noted that DRC had determined last Tuesday afternoon that this was an incomplete submittal and the applicant would be notified that the submittal would be deemed as such unless an request for a continuance was received. As of this morning, no new materials have been received. Chairperson/Planner Skelton asked for comments on the letter. DRC determined that the punch list presented last week was adequate for notifying the applicant. Development Review Committee Minutes-January 20,1998 2 3. Bozeman Athletic Club West Advice from DRC on plan adequacy for development within the City. Planner Chris Saunders presented the plans. He noted the project was approved for outside the City limits, and now the property has been approved to be annexed and it must be developed according to City standards. He asked for further comments, noting this is a CUP. The configuration has changed. He referenced the changes on the plan. Fire Marshal Chuck Winn noted that he will have conditions now that it is within the City. City Engineer Craig Brawner noted the layout of the sewer and water lines on the site plan is confusing. They need to fit the Master Plan and the applicant should determine that the sewer mains will not be located under public streets. Mr. Brawner continued that the DRC should have the opportunity to review this application using criteria pertinent to the new status. Planner Saunders asked if the DRC wanted to do a standard 3 week review. Public Service Director Phill Forbes asked if there have been any assurances that the applicant will sign the annexation agreement. Planner Saunders noted he won't receive City services if he doesn't. Streets/Sanitation Superintendent Roger Sicz asked if a traffic study was done. Planner Saunders noted a trip generation study was done. DRC members determined that they want a standard 3 week review for this project. Mr. Brawner asked that the applicant fill in the information on the sewer/water. He'd like to see their master plan for sewer and water for the whole development. Discussion followed on the Valley West sewer trunk. 1. Bozeman Interfaith Housing II i. Advice from DRC on additional development. Planner Chris Saunders presented the proposed development, noting it was originally approved with a plat restriction that until certain lots were served by sewer/water they couldn't be developed. They have received $400,000 in a grant and want to know if they can extend the road and water lines, so the water lines don't exceed the 500'maximum dead-end line. Water/Sewer Interim Superintendent Mike Certalic noted that the lines will still be in excess of 500'. He suggested looping the water. Discussion followed on the street extension, fire hydrants, water line extension length. City Engineer Craig Brawner noted that Commission will go for this type of development. He is concerned about getting infrastructure to Lots 3 &4. Planner Saunders noted that those lots belong to First Baptist Church. Mr. Brawner asked if the access will come from Babcock Street. Fire Marshal Chuck Winn had a concern about the cul-de-sac location in respect to access to the building for fire protection. He cannot comment on this development until he sees the site plan. Mr. Brawner asked how the infrastructure will be built, before or after the building permit. Neighborhood Coordinator James Goehrung commented on the facts for the project, noting he has suggested to the neighbors that this would be a prime time to put in the infrastructure as a group project. Discussion followed on the psi water flow. Planner Saunders asked if the City is willing to consider a modification of the approved site plan. Mr. Goehrung noted that if the City doesn't come up with the money to do the improvements, the grant will have to be returned. Discussion ensued on the driving effect of the fire department requirements on this project. Development Review Committee Minutes-January 20,1998 3 DRC members agreed that they needs to see a site plan. Public Services Director Phill Forbes noted he would not like to soften the approval of the original application. Streets/Sanitation Superintendent Roger Sicz noted if the street doesn't go through, it becomes a longer and longer cul-de-sac. Three discussions were held at once. Mr. Sicz noted this should be treated as Phase I was treated. Mr. Winn concurred, however, he noted he has safety concerns. Planner Saunders suggested a subdivision variance may be the correct vehicle to allow the 30, extension of the infrastructure beyond the 500'limit. A discussion ensued on the type of review and the number of weeks needed for a review. Mr. Winn moved, Mr. Sicz seconded, that the meeting be adjourned. The motion carved 6 - 0. The meeting was adjourned at 11:15 a.m. Development Review Committee Minutes-January 20,1998 4