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HomeMy WebLinkAbout12-16-1997 DRC Minutes DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE DECEMBER 16, 1997 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. Members Present: John McNeil,Larry Woodward, Craig Brawner, Chuck Winn, Dave Skelton, Phill Forbes Staff Present: Jody Olsen,Kirsten Emborg, James Nickelson,Mike Certalic, Carol Schott Visitors Present: Gene Cook, Jerry Taylor, Phil Rotherham Chairperson Dave Skelton called the meeting to order at 10:05. A. SECOND WEEK OF THREE WEEK REVIEW 1. Bridger Industrial Park, Ph. 2 MaSP#Z-97167- (Olsen) 2304 North 7th Avenue - A Major Site Plan Application to allow the construction of a second warehouse/office structure and related site improvements. Gene Cook joined the DRC. Planner Jody Olsen reviewed the project. She noted there are 8 disabled spaces shown but they are all shown as standard accessible width. At least one of the accessible spaces must be van accessible. She also commented on the driving aisle being less than eight feet from the side property line which is not allowed. Mr. Cook noted that he'd like to continue the fence and landscaping from Phase 1 in approximately a 5' strip on the south side. Discussion followed on what exists and what is proposed on the driving aisle, side yard setback, and landscaping. Planner Olsen noted that last week the DRC requested a listing of the proposed uses. If this list is prepared, it must be recorded at the Clerk and Recorder's Office. She noted that(Public Service Director Phill Forbes joined the DRC.)trucks may have difficulty maneuvering near the unloading docks. She also asked whether proposed buildings 2 and 3 would be vehicle accessible because the current site configuration would seeming preclude that. Mr. Cook noted he doesn't intend to install any more unloading docks. The tenants can use the existing ones. Fire Marshal Chuck Winn explained the need for the list of uses for fire protection purposes. Mr. Cook noted he understands there are certain uses that can't be located there. Discussion continued on the possible uses. Chairperson Skelton suggested that Mr. Cook go through the uses in an M-1 district and delineate which uses will not be allowed. Chairperson Skelton inquired about the driveway issue and the possibility of getting the driveway paved. Mr. Cook noted that he assumes that whatever requirements need to be done,he will do on his property,he doesn't anticipate getting the neighbors involved. City Engineer Craig Brawner noted that Project Engineer Rick Hixson is concerned first about the sizing of retention ponds, calculations for stormwater, details of the pond outlet, and secondly, a look needs to be taken at the turning templates for at least fire trucks. Mr. Cook noted he is willing to meet with either Mr.Hixson or Mr. Brawner or both and work out the difficulties. Development Review Committee Minutes-December 16,1997 1 Discussion followed on a loading berth. Mr. Cook asked if he couldn't use the existing docks on the building in Phase 1. Mr. Brawner noted that if floor drains are installed, then an oil/water separator will be required. Chairperson Skelton suggested Planner Olsen check on the length of the parking spaces at the rear of the building. Water/Sewer Superintendent Larry Woodward noted the sewer depth may be more than the City's machine can excavate. Discussion followed on Mr. Cook's thoughts on leaving the one building site as an outdoor storage area. Chairperson Skelton noted that a decision will be made next week on this project. The DRC will forward a formal recommendation to the Planning Board. 2. Skyview Professional Building CUPNar#Z-97168 -(Olsen) 1825 South 1 lth Avenue - A Conditional Use Permit Application with variances to allow the construction of a 2%Z story professional office building and related site improvements. Jerry Taylor and Phil Rotherham joined the DRC. Planner Jody Olsen presented the application, noting the applicant is requesting 2 variances, one for the building to be 7'taller than allowed and the second from the sign code for a larger sign than allowed. She reviewed her comments. Parking-she needs the FTE employees the building. Mr. Taylor noted that the FTE is on the site plan. Planner Olsen noted the parking then appears to be adequate. She noted a written narrative is needed addressing the variance criteria, snow storage areas need to be shown, and landscaping- --parking lots adjacent to residential areas have to be screened as required by Code. Mr. Taylor and Planner Olsen discussed the types of screening. City Engineer Craig Brawner presented Project Engineer Rick Hixson's comments. Mr. Taylor noted that the hydrant will have to be relocated as it is in the access easement, and he wanted to discuss options with the City. Water/Sewer Superintendent Larry Woodward noted there is a 30'utility easement. He noted the City would be in favor of cutting the pavement and connecting water service to the building straight across the street from the water line, if a fire line is required. He also discussed the ditch and the entrance into the building being a mechanical room which needs to be larger to adequately contain the fixtures. Mr. Woodward noted that Streets/Sanitation Superintendent Roger Sicz had told him that if the building is fire sprinklered, the street cut would be allowed. Fire Marshal Chuck Winn noted that he is still waiting for a water flow reading in that area to determine if the flow is adequate. Mr. Brawner continued with Mr. Hixson's conditions--the landscape elements may beincorrectly located over the ponds and utility easements; storm drainage comments; a requirement to participate in improvements to South 19th and Kagy; the impact of this development on South 19th and Kagy,based on traffic generation; water pressure and flow concerns. Mr. Woodward noted that he has those numbers that Mr. Winn needs for Development Review Committee Minutes-December 16,1997 2 flow calcs. Mr. Brawner continued that Mr. Hixson also noted the improvements to be installed on Kagy. Mr. Taylor asked if this property will be financially liable for the all of the improvements that front the property on Kagy. Project Engineer James Nickelson noted they will be required to do curb, gutter, and sidewalks on their side of Kagy. Mr. Taylor and Mr. Brawner discussed the future paving of Kagy. Mr. Taylor also discussed the access easement, noting they obviously are going to installed a paved approach. Mr. Brawner noted the approach will line up fairly well. Discussion ensued on the width of the right-of-way. Mr. Winn asked for the total square footage,to which Mr. Taylor responded it is 22,959 square feet. Chairperson Skelton noted Planner Olsen should check with Mr. Sicz for signage requirements for the one-way; boulevard trees will be required on both 1 lth and Kagy; and the retention pond cannot exceed a 1:4 slope. Mr. Brawner discussed the relocation of the hydrant and how to depict the change. Mr. Woodward noted the hydrant isn't drawn as it exists, it is teed from the main. Gene Cook, from the audience, asked about looping the water lines in conjunction with the upgrading of the water main in that area. Mr. Nickelson noted the water main upgrade will be tied in with the reconstruction of Kagy. Mr. Brawner noted a Waiver-of-Right to Protest improvements to Kagy will be required. Discussion followed on advantages and disadvantages of doing the improvements using an SID. Mr. Taylor asked about the upsizing of the water line and why it needs to be done. Mr. Brawner noted that the water service is only 8" in diameter. Mr. Taylor concluded it may not have capacity for his clients`building. Mr. Brawner noted they may have to loop the water and install a 12"main up through Kagy,the loop connecting to Lincoln and South 19th. Mr. Cook noted he has worked with Mr. Hixson to find a more economical, shorter looping scenario. He proposed that Mr. Taylor and Mr. Rotherham sit down and discuss the possibilities with Mr. Hixson and himself. Mr. Brawner noted that the issue is with fire protection. Mr. Winn noted Mr. Cook's proposal makes a lot of sense. Mr. Brawner noted the City is trying to move in the direction where the owners privately do the improvements, with City cooperation-it's more cost effective and more timely. Mr. Taylor noted that they have not eliminated the possibility of sprinklering the building. He discussed the concerns of his clients with the water main. Mr. Winn noted that fire protection is the main concern as the domestic water use is minimal and isn't a building code issue. Discussion continued on the water supply available at the site. Mr. Taylor asked if they sprinkler the building, is there an adequate water supply. Mr. Winn noted he doesn't know. B. FIRST WEEK OF A FOUR WEEK REVIEW 1. Stone Ridge Zoning PUD Preliminary PIan Review#Z-97176- (Skelton) West of North 19th Avenue between Durston Road and Baxter Lane - A Planned Unit Development Application to allow a mixed-use development on North 19th Avenue. 2. Stone Ridge MiSub I Preliminary Plat Review#P-9749 - (Skelton) Intersection of Durston Road and North 19th Development Review Committee Minutes-December 16,1997 3 A Minor Subdivision Preliminary Plat Review to divide 28.42 acres into 5 lots for future commercial development. 3. Stone Ridge MiSub II Preliminary Plat Review#P-9750 -(Skelton) Intersection of Baxter Lane and North 19th - A Minor Subdivision Preliminary Plat Review to divide 11.59 acres into 4 lots for commercial or industrial development. Chairperson Skelton noted these three items are FYI for DRC. The review process has not started because the platting certificate has not been received and the P.U.D. Preliminary Plan is uncomplete. The Planning Board will decide tonight whether or not to look at the two minors independently of the PUD. Water/Sewer Superintendent Larry Woodward asked for a whole picture for the water and sewer as it is piecemeal in the application. Chairperson Skelton noted he anticipates the processing of the two minors in the near future may happen, with or without the PUD, due to the push to get the Chamber of Commerce building application through the process. Mr.Nickelson noted the level of service is shown at E and F, yet the infrastructure doesn't exist for the development. Mr. Brawner noted that they had also done their traffic analysis using turn lanes that don't exist. For The Betterment of the DRC. Chairperson Skelton distributed the FSP for Morgan Creek. Three conversations at one time!! Mr. Brawner moved, Mr. Winn seconded,that the meeting be adjourned. The motion carried.6-0. The meeting was adjourned at 11:00 a.m. Development Review Committee Minutes-December 16,1997 4