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HomeMy WebLinkAbout09-30-1997 DRC Minutes DEVELOPMENT RE171EMI COMMITTEE TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 30, 1997 MINUTES Members Present: Neil Poulsen.,Larry Woodward,Dave Skelton, Chuck Winn, Craig Brawner Staff Present: Chris Saunders, Jody Olsen, Kirsten Eniborg,Rick Saunders, Carol Schott Visitors Present: Joan Rudberg,Lowell Springer, Tom Henesh, Clark Johnson,Bill Hanson Chairperson Dave Skelton called the meeting to order at 10:00 a.m. A. INITIAL `PEEK' REVIEW 1. Vallev Glass and Windows MiSP/COA#Z-97152- (Sa-unders) 20 Rawhide Ridge - A Minor,Site Plan with a Certificate of Appropriateness Application to allow the construction of a 12,355 square foot structure for retail, office, and warehouse uses and related site improvements. Planner Chris Saunders presented the application,noting the location along Simmental Way and Rawhide Ridge:. Fire Marshal Chuck Winn asked when the area would be annexed. Planner Saunders noted annexation has slat been requested. Mr. Winn noted he has no comment. Planner Saunders asked City Engineer Craig Brawner if there are waivers of right to protest annexation for the area in conjunction with the water being installed. Mr. Brawner noted that there are waivers for Simmental Way for annexation,however,he thought the Planning Department was pursuing annexation of that area aggressively. Water/Sewer Superintendent Larry Woodward noted that since there are no watesr mains or services shown,this is an incomplete application. Mr. Brawner noted a waiver is needed for not only a water main trunk SID but also for the local laterals that will be needed for development of the area. Planner Saunders noted waivers will also be required for improvements to Rawhide Ridge and Simmental Way. Mr.Brawner noted there should be a way to require them to hook up to water as soon as it is available. Planner Jody Olsen noted that the covenants of Simmental Plaza require hook up to sewer as soon as it is available and she thought the businesses would hook to water also. Discussion ensued on how to get them to hook up to water also. Discussion followed on how and when the area will be annexed. Mr. Winn noted that Rae Fire Department should be notified and become a part of this discussion as soon as possible. There is a problem with fire protection out there with no water available. Mr. Brawner noted they are probably within 30 days of getting the S.M. Mr.Winn asked when the digging will start. Mr.Brawner noted digging would begin during the next construction season. Mr. Woodwarcl noted the plans need to show the water and sewer and the applicants will be Development Review Comm-Ace N inute s-September 30,1997 1 required to meter their water.Mr.Brawner noted that there are several property owners between Oak Sstreet and Baxter Lane who are carrying their own sewer trunk installation, The private extension will begin on October 3. Discussion continued on the sewer extension.. 2. Interior Home &.Bath MiSP/COA#Z-97148 -(Olsen) Rawhide Ridge and North 19th Avenue A Mirror Sire Plan with a Certificate of Appropriateness Application to allow the constriction of a 9,000 square foot retail and warehouse:building and related site improvements. Planner Jody Olsen presented the application,noting it is located in the same area as the previous application. Gaston Engineering has been retained to do the grading and drainage plan and will have it submitted next week: - Water/Sewer Superintendent Larry Woodward noted that water./sewer mains and services have to be shown on the plans. City Engineer Craig Brawner noted there aren't any dimensions shown, everything is fairly minimal. Mr.Woodward noted they will probably need a pump for the sewer system. Planner Olsen asked if these two project will be required to install water service systems in anticipation of the availability of water in the near future. Mr.Woodward noted that with previous projects,DRC has only suggested they install water/sewer services which are ready to connect to City services. Planner Olsen noted she would tell the engineer to dimension the phins, show water/sewer services and mains, and provide grading/drainage on the plans he is submitting. B. INFORMA-L REVIEW 1. Professional/Office Building Informal#I-9755- (Olsen) 1825 South 11 th Avenue - An Informal Review for comments and advice on a 7,653 square foot office building. Planner Jody Olsen presented the application,noting the major issue is that it exceeds the height requirement by 21 feet. " Chairperson Skelton asked if the applicant has enough parking. Planner Olsen noted she couldn't determine the parking required as the applicant didn't indicate how many tenants; doctors, and employees there will be. Concerns of the DRC included not enough parking is shown for the size of the building,the building is one story too tall,the sidewalks aren't shown properly on South I Ith Avenue and Kagy Boulevard. Also, curbing and gutter and a waiver for signalization will be required. City Development Review Commute:Minutes-Septe=er 30,1997 2 Engineer Craig Brawner noted it would be better to get cash towards the signalization as the waivers don't work very well. DRC members also noted waivers for water improvements will be required for water lines for fire protection as all professional buildings in that area are required to be sprinklered. Water/Sewer Superintendent Larry Woodward noted there will have to be a capacity analysis completed to ensure the water capacity is available. Planner Olsen noted the angled Im.-king is angled the wrong way. Bill Hanson, Taylor Architects, joined DRC. Jody reA.iewed the issues with the submittal. Mr. Hanson noted the building is designed for four independent de:nrists with part-time and fill-time employees. Mr. Hanson asked Planner Olsen to explain how the height of the building is measured,which she noted is from the slope to the peal-:of the roof. Chairperson Skelton noted there are infrastructure, sidewalks, and water issues. Mr. Brawner noted the sidewalks have to be shower in the proper locations and curb and gutter along Kagy Boulevard will be required. Signalization waivers or some sort of participation will be required along with waivers,or he'd rather see cash, for improvements to Kagy Boulevard. Mr.Hanson asked when signalization of 11th and Kagy will occur.Mr. Brawner noted it probably wasn't in the near future. Mr. Hanson was concerned as street parking is allowed now and probably wouldn't be allowed with signalization. Chief Building Official Neil Poulsen noted the site is fill-dirt and will need a soil analysis. Mr. Hanson noted that is why they are showing a basement as they have to remove at least 12 feet of bad material. He asked about water/sewer in the area. Mr. Brawner discussed his question, noting it will require looping of the water. Fire Marshal Chuck Winn and Mr. Woodward discussed the water volume and pressure available. Mr.Hanson asked how long the extension for required looping would be. Mr. Brawner responded. Mr.Winn asked if the building will be sprinklered. Mr. Hanson wasn't sure. Mr.Winn discussed the sprinklering and hydrant requirements. Mr. Hanson asked if there are any other developments in the area that will be affected. Chairperson Skelton noted that i%&. Cook's professional office building will be right across the street, Cowdrey has expressed an interest in development of his lot,and Marks Kagy Crossroads is also in the works. Mr. Hanson noted the project is scheduled for construction next spring. Chairperson Skelton noted the water is the biggest issue. The Variance will be decided by the City Commission. He suggested expending energy on the water issue:. Mr. Brawner suggested having a discussion with Mr. Cook on the possibility of joining efforts in getting the water problem corrected. Mr. Hanson asked if the costs would be covered by an SID. Mr.Brawner discussed the possibilities,noting, that time-wise, it is faster to privately install the water mains. Discussion followed on the intentions on the size of water mains to be installed and over what distance, and where the current main exists. Mr.Hanson asked if they could sign a waiver for an SID for the water unprovements. Mr. Brawner noted that is the very least that would be required. Mr.Winn noted that Mr.Hanson can build the building now and sprinkler it. Mr.Hanson noted the owners would have to be aware that the hammer would fall eventually for water improvements. Development Review Committee Minutes-Septrm3er 30,1997 3 Chairperson Skelton suggested discussing the accesses and their appropriateness. Mr. Brawner noted that this access is much beater that any other suggested thus far for this property. Planner Olsen noted this would be a CUP application. She noted that a signage proposal should be included with proposal. Mr. uroodward noted the water line size has to be shown and the pressure zones are to be indicated. C. DISCUSSION T ms 1. Barnard Compa.fq, - (Saunders) 701 Gold Avenue An application to modify a previously approved site plan to add a new 2,000 square foot storage building. Planner Chris Saunders presented the discussion item,noting it is a re-re-development for a records storage building. lie noted that one issue is the easement for a 12 inch main through the property. Fire Marshal Chuck IATfim asked if the bridge will be upgraded for access. Planner Saunders noted no, however,they have installed a secondary access connecting Gold Avenue and Pear Street paralleling the Story lvEll Spur. Mr. V`Ann noted the building will have to be sprinklered. Chief Building Official Neil Poulsen noted the addition sloes have occupancy, even if it is only occasionally occupied. Mr. Winn noted he has no comments until he looks at the file for previous requirements. Discussion followed on the sewer easement and the need for an easement for waiver. 2. Stoneridge MiSub I&II- (Skelton) West of North 19th,between Durston Road and Baxter Lane Tom Henesh and Lowell Springer joined the DRC. Senior Planner/Chairperson Dave Skelton presented the discussion item,noting this is a.pre-application subdivision review that the Planning Office and D.R.C. members are xequired to give comments on in 15 days. DRC will see this one more week. The property has been rezoned from R-4 to B-2 and M-1. The biggest issue is the private street. Water/Sewer Superintendent Larri Woodward indicated the size of the water main changes by 10 inches depending on what part of the plan one reviews. Mr.Henesh explained the water main sizes and looping. Discussion followed on the major sewer trunk lines, access location,the street standard, and curb & gutter. Dave asked for ;vritten comments next week for recommendation to the applicant to prepare the preliminary plat. He noted that the minor subdivision Preliminary Plats for phases 1 and 2 will be submitted within 2 to 3 weeks. City Engineer Craig Brawner noted that no site improvements can be done until all of the infrastructure is installed. Discussion followed on the requirements of the improvements to be done. Planner/Chairperson Skelton suggested it 50 foot street with a boulevard and sidewalk. With private streets proposed that are so narrow,no parking will be allowed. Mr. Springer noted they don't want to encourage parking along the street. Discussion ensued on parking, fire lanes,ADA requirements,restriction of parking on narrow private street, location of utilities, width of the street,the proposed businesses to be located there,the Development Review CQmnittee Minutes-Septi:m:er 30,1997 4 inaccessibility of the street when.et/er there is tae need far a sewer pumping tnick to be parked the street. Craig moved,Rick seconded,that the meeting adjourned. 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