HomeMy WebLinkAbout06-10-1997 DRC Minutes DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, JUNE 10, 1997
Members Present: Dave Skelton, Larry Woodward, Chuck Winn,Neil Poulsen,Roger Sicz(and
the appropriate Project Engineer)
Staff Present: Karen Finke, Debbie Arkell,Rick Hixson, Dean Patterson, Jody Olsen, Chris
Saunders, James Nickelson, Carol Schott
Visitors Present: Jeff Rupp,Roger Matthews, Dan Himsworth,Bob Nesset,Dick Shanahan, Joby
Sabol,Robert Quinn, Don DeCosse, Tom Milleson, Lowell Springer, Gene
Mickolio, Keith Belden,Herman Chan, Jack Schunke, Glenn Wood
Chairperson Dave Skelton called the meeting to order at 10:00 a.m. He noted an addition to the
agenda,the MacKenzie River CUP from last week,needs a formal action. Chairperson Skelton
moved, Mr.Winn seconded,that the DRC recommend approval of the MacKenzie River CUP
application as per Staff conditions. Motion carried 6-0.
A. FINAL REVIEWS
1. Valley West Annexation#A-9703 - (Arkell)
West of Ferguson, between Durston Rd and U.S. 191
An Annexation Application for Annexation of 411 acres. (Final of
two week review for Final comments)
Assistant Planning Director Debbie Arkell reviewed the process thus far. She noted she would
like final comments as soon as possible for inclusion in her Staff Report to City Commission.
Project Engineer Rick Hixson reviewed his and City Engineer Craig Brawner's conditions and
comments. Jack Schunke and Glenn Wood joined DRC. Planner Arkell noted that the Planning
Office is recommending approval of areas I and II, but not area III. Mr. Schunke noted that they
are comfortable with that recommendation as long as Bronken Park is included. He also noted
that area II is crucial to the installation of infrastructure and streets for area I.
Mr. Schunke asked about the proposed B-2 zoning and how to massage it so it is acceptable to
the Planning Office. Planner Arkell noted that the area under discussion is west of J.C. Billion.
Planner Arkell reviewed the schedules for the hearing and the City Commission decision.
2. Lot 46, Bridger Creek Sub, Phase I Amended Final Plat#P-9729 - (Skelton)
2408 Par Court
- An Amendment to the approved Final Plat to subdivide Lot 46 into
two lots to allow the construction of townhouses. (Final week of a two week
review.)
Richard Shanahan joined DRC. Chairperson/Senior Planner Dave Skelton reviewed his
conditions noting they are standard. He noted that the applicant is being asked to give the
Planning Office an extension for a response from the City as the City Commission won't review
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the application until July 7, which is after the 35-day required review deadline.
Mr. Shanahan asked for clarification on the utility easements. Planner Skelton noted the20 foot
easement is split, with 10 feet on each of the adjoining properties.
Water/Sewer Superintendent Larry Woodward reviewed his comments and conditions. He gave
Mr. Shanahan a red-lined plan to show how the meter pit is to be constructed. He reviewed the
non-standard conditions -96 and#8.
Streets/Sanitation Superintendent Roger Sicz moved, Chief Building Official Neil Poulsen
seconded, to recommend conditional approval as per DRC conditions. The motion carried 6-0,
3. State Capitol Employees Credit Union ZCA#Z-9775 - (Patterson)
8645 Huffine Lane
- A Zone Code Amendment to allow parking in the front yard to allow
commercial uses to utilize 18'of the 25' front yard setback for parking. (Final
week of a two week review)
Roger Matthews joined DRC. Planner Dean Patterson reviewed the application. Chairperson
Skelton noted the main question is why the application is for a Zone Code Amendment rather than
a Variance.
Planner Patterson noted that he needs comments to forward to the City Commission. He
concurred with Chairperson Skelton on the application type.
Mr. Matthews noted that he and Planner Arkell had discussed the parking problem and decided
that the hardship requirement for a variance would be difficult for him to meet,therefore, a ZCA
would make the changes needed to allow the parking in the front yard setback. Chairperson
Skelton noted that the eighteen foot encroachment into the twenty-five foot front yard setback
was too much.
Fire Marshal Chuck Winn noted that the fire hydrant on the northeast comer has to be moved.
Mr. Matthews noted that he will be meeting with Project Engineer Karen Finke to be sure it is
moved to the correct location in the very near future.
Mr. Sicz asked if the ZMA would apply to the whole City if approved. Chairperson Skelton
noted that it would and he is not in favor of the proposal. Discussion ensued on the problems the
narrowness of the seven foot setback will cause.
Planner Patterson asked if the widening of a street into an arterial would cause problems with the
narrow setback. Mr. Hixson noted it would not as the City would already have the right-of-way
or easements for the street. He continued that Chairperson Skelton's concern with retention and
detention ponds is a real concern, as the increase in pavement will increase the retention need, and
there is little space to put it. Mr. Matthews noted that his customers want to park in front of the
building. Project Engineer James Nickelson noted that the issue would have generally been
resolved when the building went through site plan re-lew.
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Chairperson Skelton noted that the application will be discussed at Staff tomorrow, as, if the
ZCA is adopted, it will eliminate the street scape in the whole City. He noted that comments need
to be forwarded to Planner Patterson for inclusion in his recommendation to City Commission.
He suggested that Mr. Matthews, Planner Patterson, and himself meet tomorrow afternoon to
discuss the procedure and how to accomplish it.
B. SECOND WEEK REVIEWS
1. HRDC Headstart Center CUP/Variances #Z-9744 - (Olsen)
52 North 24th Avenue
- A Conditional Use Permit Application with Variances to allow the
construction of a pre-school classroom building and to allow a 6' encroachment
into the rear yard setback, a bus unloading zone in the front yard setback and allow
a building permit and the start of construction within 6 months of the release of
grant funds.
Bob Nesset and Jeff Rupp joined DRC. Planner Jody Olsen reviewed the project,noting the code
requirements that are of the greatest concern - 1) storm/snow storage is shown in a dedicated City
park and will have to be relocated, and 2)the plan is short two parking spaces, which will take an
additional variance. Also,the applicant will have to request approval from the Public Service
Director for the circular driveway.
Mr.Rupp asked when Beall Street will be improved. Mr. Hixson noted it may be done this
summer or fall. Discussion followed on the extension and improvement of the street.
Mr. Hixson noted that the final plan will have to show dimensioned drive aisle widths,parking,
and storm water storage. He continued that backing out of one of the stalls will be difficult. He
also noted the plans are to show calcs for storm water storage; the water and sewer services
aren't shown in the correct location; and calcs showing that the two existing 1/" services are
adequate. Mr. Rupp asked if the size of the water senace can be negotiated. Mr. Woodward
noted it cannot as the water size is existing and no street cuts are allowed due to the moratorium.
Chairperson Skelton asked Mr. Sicz to comment on the bus unloading/loading zones. Mr. Sicz
noted it is best to have off-street unloading/loading zones. Mr. Rupp noted they are trying to
address the location of that zone. He continued that all of the children are bussed to the school.
He noted that the classrooms are now in local schools and their use is at the discretion of the
district-if they have room. He continued by explaining the trade-offs planned on this site, such
as playground equipment to be installed in the City Park and a 60 foot green space between the
school and the park.
Mr. Sicz asked if he would be requesting that parking be restricted on the street. Mr. Rupp noted
that they didn't anticipate any restrictions. Mr. Sicz noted that he'd rather see the circular
driveway than have the busses unload/load on the street.
Mr.Rupp asked if the inaccuracy of the drawings was the main problem. Planner Olsen noted
that he or someone from HRDC should meet with Planner Arkell, Planning Director Epple, and
herself to discuss further variances that may be required. Further discussion followed on the
access and trash enclosure.
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2. XL Partnership ZMA#Z-9743 - (Patterson)
5000 Block of Durston Road
- A Zone Map Amendment Application to amend the zoning designation on
a 160+ acre tract of land from A-S (Agriculture Suburban)to R-3 (Residential,
Medium Density).
Joby Sabol and Keith Belden joined DRC. Planner Dean Patterson reviewed the concerns and
noted that comments are needed on the rezoning of the property.
3. Gateway Limited Partners MPA and ZMA#P-9722, #Z-9742 - (Skelton)
5000 Block of Durston Road
- A Master Plan Amendment Application and a Zone Map Amendment
Application to amend the Master Plan to allow a change in land use from County
Zoning District#1 to Urban Residential Infill and to amend the Zone Map to re-
zone the property R-2A on a 145 acre tract of land.
Joby Sabol and Keith Belden joined DRC. Chairperson/Senior Planner Skelton reviewed the
application. He noted that the applicants will be required to provide easements for the extensions
of Oak Street and North 27th Avenue.
C. ONE WEEK REVIEW
1. Stoneridge Concept PUD#Z-9761 - (Skelton)
North 19th/Durston Road
A Concept Planned Unit Development Review on a 5 -Phase development
in the new N. 19th Avenue entryway corridor for the Cape-France property
between Durston Road and Baxter Lane.
Gene Mickolio joined DRC. Chairperson/Senior Planner Skelton noted that the applicants are
submitting a pre-application for the entire property. He noted that the purpose of the concept
PUD is to get comments from the City's departmentson the planned uses. He discussed the
timing of the infrastructure installation for the various phases. Mr. Springer joined DRC.
Members of the DRC noted they would not support the proposed ingress/egress for the
convenience store. Mr. Springer suggested a right turn in/out only, with discussion following.
DRC members noted problems associated with pork chops on busy, narrow streets like Durston
Road. Chairperson/Senior Planner Skelton noted there are probable wetlands in the area and
permits may be required from the appropriate agencies.
Mr. Springer noted that they have contracted with Donna Lovell for a study on the wetlands on
the property. Chairperson/Senior Planner Skelton noted that a fairly intense traffic study will also
be required. Mr. Springer noted that Morrison-Maierle is already working on it.
Project Engineer James Nickelson discussed the proposed street. Mr. Springer noted it would be
a private street. Chairperson/Senior Planner Skelton noted that Midsection Line Road will be a
public street according to the Master Plan. Mr.Nickelson noted that ideally the access should be
. Mr. Springer noted that they will
comply with whatever is required there. He asked for comments on the private drive on
. Chairperson/Senior Planner Skelton noted that Don
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Cape, Sr.,recognized the benefit of doing a pre-application for the entire property. Mr. Springer
noted the pre-application should be submitted to the Planning Office this week.
Mr. Woodward noted that the biggest problem for the applicants is that North 19th is a State
highway and there are no utilities in it. Mr. Springer discussed the plans for water/sewer services.
Mr. Springer asked Fire Marshal Chuck Winn if the buildings being the distance they are from N.
19th will cause any problems for the fire department. Mr. Winn indicated the distance should
present no problems.
Discussion followed on easements for streets that have been dedicated.
D. INFORMAL REVIEW
1. The Wok Informal#I-9730 (Saunders)
319 North 7th Avenue
- An Informal Review for comment and advice on a 1,233 sq. ft. addition.
Tom Milleson, Herman, Chan, and Don DeCosse joined DRC. Planner Chris Saunders presented
the application. He noted Planning Staff s concerns are lighting and parking. The required
parking is for 41 spaces plus two handicapped spaces.
Fire Marshal Chuck Winn asked for the total square footage of the existing and proposed
building. Mr. Milleson noted it will be about 4200 square feet. Mr. Winn asked if beer and wine
will be served, and Mr. Milleson noted they would. Mr. Winn noted that a 5000 square foot
building used to serve alcohol is required by Building Codes to be sprinklered. Discussion
followed on how to provide fire separation between different uses within the building using
different types of fire wall separation.
Chairperson Skelton inquired if the applicant perceives needing all the parking that is required.
Mr. Milleson noted he was not sure he would. Mr. Chan noted that even when his restaurant is
full, only about 70% of the parking lot is full. Chairperson Skelton noted that though he is
generally not in favor of parking deviations,he suggested that the applicant ask for a deviation for
parking to allow the handicapped spaces to be located closer to the entryway of the building. He
asked if any new signage was proposed. Mr. Milleson noted no new signage is planned.
Mr. Woodward noted that a fixture count will be needed to ensure the size of the water line is
adequate. Chairperson Skelton suggested Mr. Milleson investigate where the storm water run-off
goes.
Mr. Milleson inquired if this will be a minor or major site plan. Chairperson Skelton and Planner
Saunders noted this application will be discussed tomorrow at Staff meeting and the type of site
plan will be decided.
Chairperson Skelton moved, Mr. Hixson seconded, that the meeting be adjourned. The motion
carried unanimously and the meeting was adjourned at 11:10 a.m.
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