HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-27-1997 DRC Minutes DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY,MAY 27, 1997
Members Present: Larry Woodward, Chuck Winn, Phill Forbes,Dave Skelton, Jim Collins,
Staff Present: Debbie Arkell, Dean Patterson, James Nickelson, Rick Hixson, Karen Finke, Carol
Schott
Visitors Present: Nanci Evans,Michael Liebelson,Nancy Characklis, Jack Schunke, Glenn Wood,
Bob Gilbert, Joan Rudberg, Jeff Ellis, Tom Milleson, Gene Mickolio, Ron Hess,
Lowell Springer, Mike Popiel
Chairperson Dave Skelton called the meeting to order at 10:05 a.m. He noted there were two
final reviews on the agenda and introduced the first item.
A. FINAL REVIEWS
1. Valley West MPA &ZMA#P-9721 &Z-9741 - (Arkell)
West of Ferguson,between Durston Road& U.S. 191
A Master Plan Amendment Application to change the land use from
Suburban Residential to Urban Residential and from Rural Residential to Urban
Residential and Commercial, and a Zone Map Amendment Application for multiple
changes.
Jack Schunke and Glenn Wood joined DRC. Assistant Planning Director Debbie Arkell reviewed
the Master Plan Amendment(MPA). She noted that the property already has urban zoning
designations, except for the Norton property, which is zoned AS. She continued that the zoning
designations will be moved around. The purpose of the MPA is to plan the parcels for residential
infill and commercial uses. She noted a concern with the requested extension of the sewer service
and Urban Growth boundaries.
Mr. Forbes asked if DRC should see this project one more time. Planner Arkell noted it would be
possible as her Staff Report isn't due until after DRC next week. Mr. Forbes noted that he is
uncomfortable with the proposal to move the sewer boundary. He asked if this is the first project
that would require the movement of the sewer boundary. Planner Arkell noted this project is a
first in requesting that the boundary be moved,however, annexations have occurred outside the
boundary. Mr. Forbes asked Mr. Schunke for comment on the movement of the sewer boundary
in relation to studies completed by his company. Mr.Wood noted that they proposed the urban
growth and sewer boundary movements to avoid leap frogging the boundaries and to keep the
two boundaries in alignment with one another. Mr. Schunke noted that they found that the best
way to handle the waste water was with a new sewer trunk in a new service area.
Mr. Forbes noted that this project doesn't need to be on the agenda one more time.
Planner Arkell noted the changes requested for the property west of Billions. She continued that
she cannot support a change to B-2 zoning for that property,however,the rest of the proposed
zoning was satisfactory. She suggested extending the B-1 zoning slightly.
Mr. Schunke noted that the current B-2 zoning on Durston and Cottonwood had been eliminated.
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He continued that the B-2 zoning that Planner Arkell couldn't support was requested as another
car dealership may want to relocate there. He noted that conversations with the Planning
Director led him to believe the additional B-2 zoning could be done.
Planner Arkell asked for written comments.
2. Technical Services Center, Unit E MiSP#Z-9751 - (Saunders)
985 Technology Blvd. South
- A Minor Site Plan Application to construct a two-story office building and
a boundary adjustment for extra parking, the final phase.
Gene Mickolio joined DRC. Assistant Planning Director Debbie Arkell noted that comments are
due today for Planner Saunders's Staff Report. She reviewed Planner Saunders's four conditions
and three zone code requirements.
Mr.Nickelson reviewed his comments noting that all are standard except for#2 which requires
the re-alignment of the proposed access with Research Drive.
Mr. Forbes noted that the property boundary adjustment had to be completed before the building
permit would be issued.
Chairperson Skelton asked about the purpose of the future garage. Mr. Mickolio noted is for the
storage of equipment and accessory vehicles for Morrison-Maierle, Inc., and other tenants in the
development.
Mr. Winn asked for the location of the fire hydrants. Mr. Mickolio located them on the site plan.
Mr. Winn noted there is a dead end over 150 feet and from the street to the back of the building is
also over 150 feet.He suggested methods of alleviating the problems - construct a code compliant
turn- around, complete access around the building, or sprinkler the building. He noted that
another hydrant wouldn't solve the problem as the fire truck still cannot get to within 150' of the
farthest part of the building. He noted that his condition will be to either sprinkler the building or
construct an approved turn-around.
Mr. Springer joined DRC. Mr. Forbes asked if DRC needs to see this project one more time to
review the proposed changes in parking and fire access. Planner Arkell noted that there is extra
parking, as per the Code,but the applicant wants to create more parking. Mr. Forbes explained
Mr. Winn's condition to Mr. Springer. Mr. Winn noted that he will review the fire access again
during Final Site Plan Review. Mr. Springer noted that the fire hoses will lay on the landscaping
and lawn. Mr. Winn noted that the fire fighters try to keep the hoses on the sidewalks, and for
this project that distance is over 150'. Mr. Springer noted that another way to remedy the
problem would be to move the sidewalk. Mr. Winn concurred that could alleviate the concern.
Mr. Forbes moved to conditionally approve the application. Motion died for lack of a second.
Chairperson Skelton noted there are two more items to consider. 1) The landscape requires the
Tech Park guidelines must be met, and 2) who will own the garage. Mr. Springer noted that
Morrison-Maierle will own the building. Chairperson Skelton noted that the garage can be used
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for accessory vehicle parking,not employee parking.
Mr. Forbes moved,Mr. Nickelson seconded,to conditionally approve the application per the
conditions of the DRC, including the condition relating to complying with the Fire Code. The
motion carried 6-0,
Planner Arkell reviewed the appeal process. Mr. Springer noted that the only condition they may
want to appeal is the alignment of the access drive with Research Drive. He and Mr. Schunke
discussed how to align the two drives. Mr. Nickelson noted that the street and access don't have
to be exactly aligned,but do need to be close. Mr. Springer noted that the two are within five
feet of one another, with Mr. Nickelson indicating that would probably be close enough.
B. SECOND WEEK REVIEWS
1. Bozeman Interfaith Housing-2 "Pond Row"MiSP #Z-9758 - (Saunders)
3300 West Babcock Street
- A Minor Site Plan Application to allow the construction of four ten unit
buildings.
Ron Hess and Mike Popiel joined DRC. Chairperson Skelton presented the application and
reviewed Staff s comments.
Mr. Nickelson asked what was planned for the rest of the property. Mr. Hess noted that they plan
to do a mirror image of this proposal.
Mr. Forbes asked for the length of the street they were proposing to construct in this phase. Mr.
Popiel noted the street will be built perpendicular to an extension of the property line between
Lots 2 and 3.
Mr. Woodward noted that in the laundry facilities/storage areas, the water service line enters the
storage area and should enter the laundry facility only. He noted that they should also be sure the
water line size is adequate for the laundry facilities.
Mr. Popiel asked about a variance on the infrastructure for Lot 2 and financial guarantees.
Discussion on those items followed.
Chairperson Skelton asked if Mr. Popiel foresees a problem with financially guaranteeing the
street/road. Mr. Popiel noted it may be a moot point as the street may already be installed by the
time the occupancy permit is requested.
Chairperson Skelton noted that a decision will be made by DRC next week. He also noted that he
will research the variance and report to them if he finds an answer, otherwise, Planner Saunders
will answer the question next week.
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2. Learning Circle School CUP/Variance#Z-9746 -(Saunders)
Villard Street
A Conditional Use Permit Application with a Variance to allow the
construction of a new private elementary school.
Michael Liebelson,Nancy Characklis, and Bob Gilbert joined DRC. Chairperson Skelton
reviewed Planner Saunders's comments. Discussion ensued on the status of the Preliminary Plat
and when the Final Plat could be filed. Chairperson Skelton noted the biggest concerns are with
roads/streets and infrastructure for water/sewer.
Mr.Nickelson noted that the method of financially guaranteeing streets is by SID. Ms. Finke
noted that water/sewer would be guaranteed in the same manner.
Mr. Popiel noted that they need to be ready for the full school year beginning the first of
September. They are requesting variances so that everything can be reviewed concurrently and
they can begin school in September, thereby gaining a full school year of tuition to help pay for
the project. Mr. Gilbert noted that it will take about three months to complete the project as the
building is pretty simple.
Chairperson Skelton asked when the infrastructure would be completed. Mr.Nickelson noted it
will be this fall at the earliest. Mr. Winn asked where the nearest fire hydrant is located. Mr.
Gilbert noted that it is about 500' away on Michael Grove. Discussion ensued on the proposed
fire hydrants. Mr. Winn asked how they would access the site during construction. Mr. Gilbert
noted that a temporary road would be constructed. Mr. Liebelson noted that this project is a
gamble because the school cannot open if the infrastructure isn't completed by September. Mr.
Gilbert noted that the City will hold the string with the Certificate of Occupancy.
Chairperson Skelton noted that Preliminary Plat approval will be completed soon,however, the
subdivider will have to meet the conditions and install the infrastructure for Final Site Plan
approval. It usually takes four to five months. Planner Arkell noted that Preliminary Plat
approval has been given and the Findings of Fact are due to City Commission on June 2.
Chairperson Skelton noted that the City Commission will make the decision on the variances
requested. He noted that the use of the property is permissible, it's just that the lots have yet to
be created.
Mr. Woodward noted that it could take another 30 days for the review. Discussion ensued on the
review process. Ms. Characklis noted that they have a builder ready to begin construction. Mr.
Forbes noted that he wouldn't support the variance for streets. Mr. Liebelson asked if the street
had to be paved. Mr. Forbes noted that paving could be financially guaranteed.
Mr. Gilbert asked if water/sewer could be financially guaranteed. Chairperson Skelton noted that
they cannot. Mr. Forbes noted that this project is a year too soon. Mr. Liebelson noted that the
developer, Mr. Daines, is installing the water/sewer. Mr. Forbes noted that it has to be installed
and approved before building permits will be issued.
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Chairperson Skelton noted that DRC's basic response to the variances will be to not support
them.
Mr. Gilbert asked if the fire hydrant locations were satisfactory. Mr. Winn noted the one in the
back will be of no use. Discussion ensued on rotating the building, striping of the driveway, water
line size, and irrigation of the playground area and how it will affect the water line size.
C. FIRST WEEK REVIEW
1. Mackenzie River CUP #Z-9764- (Olsen)
232 E. Main Street
- A Conditional Use Permit Application to allow the sale of alcoholic
beverages at an existing restaurant.
Due to the absence of Planner Jody Olsen,Assistant Planning Director Debbie Arkell presented
the project and noted comments would be due in two weeks.
D. INFORMAL REVIEW
1. Burger King Informal#I-9728 - (Patterson)
1922 West Main Street
- An Informal Review for comments and advice on a proposed addition of an
interior play-land and other modifications.
Tom Milleson and Jeff Ellis joined the DRC. Planner Dean Patterson presented the project. Mr.
Milleson noted that the driving aisle will be widened and one access for a drive aisle will be
eliminated. Chairperson Skelton noted that the access is already blocked.
Chairperson Skelton noted that there will be additional parking needed for the added seating area
in the playground space. Planner Patterson noted that addition will occupy part of the existing
patio. He continued the project would require a Minor Site Plan application as it is more than a
20% expansion. Mr.Nickelson noted that there is a problem with the driving aisles now that will
have to be addressed. Planner Patterson noted that the drive-through access may encroach into
the side yard setback. Chairperson Skelton asked why they plan to widen the driving aisle. Mr.
Milleson noted it is to prevent cars from driving over the sidewalk and curbing.
Chairperson Skelton noted that MDOT would be contacted regarding the access to Main Street.
Mr.Nickelson noted that joint access should be maintained between the adjacent properties.
Chairperson Skelton noted that the access there now works well,he'd like to see it remain 2-way.
Discussion continued on the accesses. Chairperson Skelton noted that they will need a common
signage plan that conforms with the current sign ordinance. Planner Patterson noted that he has
notified the owner that landscaping will be a part of the application. He continued that they may
need street trees. Mr. Woodward noted that the location of utilities needs to be noted.
Planner Patterson noted he has suggested off-setting the addition to allow better sight lines for the
drive-through exit. Chairperson Skelton noted that snow storage has to be addressed, too.
Mr. Forbes moved, Mr. Woodward seconded,that the meeting be adjourned. The motion carried
unanimously and the meeting was adjourned at 11:15 a.m.
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