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HomeMy WebLinkAbout04-22-1997 DRC Minutes DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY, APRIL 22, 1997 Members Present: Larry Woodward, Dave Skelton, Craig Brawner, Neil Poulsen, Bret Waters, Roger Sicz, Chuck Winn Staff Present: Debbie Arkell,Dean Patterson, James Nickelson, Pat Estey,Karen Finke,Rick Hixson, Brian Connolley, Carol Schott Visitors Present: Wendy Tage, Ben Lloyd, Joan Rudberg, Gene Mickolio, Don Bockhahn, Tom Milleson, Tammy and John Beyer, Dan Kamp, Bin Chang,Lowell Springer,Lisa Buchanan, Mike Promisco Chairperson Dave Skelton called the meeting to order at 10:00 a.m. He noted that there were five reviews to be done. A. FINAL WEEK REVIEW 1. Carson Place Subdivision and Zoning PUD#P-9716 &Z-9726 -(Skelton) 1304 West Babcock Street - A Subdivision and Zoning PUD Application to allow a 19-unit townhouse PUD subdivision with one of the townhouse buildings to have six units which exceeds the maximum units per cluster of five allowed by the Code. Lowell Springer, Don Bockhahn, and Gene Mickolio joined DRC. Chairperson/Senior Planner Dave Skelton reviewed the application and noted that DRC is to make a formal recommendation to the Planning Board and City Commission at this meeting. He continued by reviewing the conditions (on file in the Planning Office) from Planning Staff,paying particular attention to conditions #9414. He noted that a full 60'utility easement will be required in Phase I for that phase of the infrastructure and later for Phase II when it is approved. Mr. Springer concurred that full curb and gutter will be installed for Phase I and no sidewalks will be installed during this phase due to the location of the mobile homes on the east side. Planner Skelton noted that he thought there would be rolled asphalt curb on the east side rather than concrete. He noted that if the permanent curbing were installed, it could pose problems for the mobile home driveway accesses. Discussion ensued on temporary vs.permanent curbing and curb cuts for shared accesses. Mr. Sicz would rather they install permanent curbs with shared accesses in a couple of places. He noted that the City doesn't want to maintain the snow removal on the narrow part of the street, and would rather not do the full width of the rest of the street until they can plow straight through in Phase II, due to the piling of snow on the sidewalks and porches of adjacent properties, however the City would do the sweeping and other maintenance. Mr. Sicz noted other concerns: 1)the street width doesn't meet the requirements, 2) storm retention should not be totally located along Babcock Street, 3)how is the run-off getting from the east side to the west side of N. 13th, 4) the asphalt sections don't show how thick the asphalt will be. He continued that plowing of the street and drainage are the biggest issues. Development Review Committee-April 22,1997 1 Mr. Brawner noted that there is to be a storm drainage easement for storm water storage. In response to Mr. Poulsen, Mr. Bockhahn noted that the homes would not have basements. Mr. Brawner noted that he is not in favor of storm drainage being located on private lots as the ponds tend to get filled in for landscaping, gardens, lawns, etc. Mr. Springer noted that the Homeowners'Association has to approve all changes on the site. Discussion ensued on the retention area being too deep and the location of the common open spaces. Mr. Woodward inquired about the locations of the sewer and water lines, as the location of one trailer is within 4' of the property line. He didn't think the utilities could be located as shown as the trailers are too close to the property line. Mr. Woodward reviewed his department's conditions. Mr. Hixson reviewed the conditions from his department. Mr. Springer noted that the adjacent property owner has been reluctant to move the house until he is ready to move it. Mr. Hixson changed condition#9a. from"...public access..."to read "...public street...", added to the first sentence in condition#10 "prior to construction", and in the second paragraph of condition#10 changed"align"to "aligned". Mr. Sicz asked to add, "the maintenance of the temporary curb shall be by the Homeowners'Association"in condition#10. Planner Skelton added "and profiles of the asphalt street for all phases shall be depicted"to condition#11. Mr. Springer inquired if they could keep the services out of concrete to better meet Mr. Woodward's concerns. Discussion followed on this idea. Planner Skelton added that it would be acceptable as long as it did not conflict with the location of the streetscape for the boulevard trees. Mr. Hixson noted that he would add that for Phase II, the widening will mean a total reconstruction of the street to 37', and will be a continuation of the existing street to the south. Mr. Winn asked for the location of the fire hydrant. He noted it should be shown on the plans, mid-block would be adequate. Mr. Hixson moved, Mr. Sicz seconded, to recommend approval with the conditions as per DRC. Planner Skelton clarified that curb and gutter will be installed within three years on the full standard street. Discussion followed on the wording of the clarification. Motion carried 6-0. B. SECOND WEEK REVIEW 1. Montana Kids Child Care Facility Expansion MiSP/COA#Z-9731 - (Arkell) 1105 Campbell Road - A Minor Site Plan with a Certificate of Appropriateness Application to allow the construction of a 1728 sq. ft. (footprint)3-car garage with day care center classrooms and facilities on the main level for the Montana Kids Child Care Facility Ben Lloyd, Wendy Tage, and Tammy and John Beyer joined DRC. Assistant Planning Director Debbie Arkell presented the application. She reviewed three conditions from Planning Staff. That will require be reviewed by DRB this afternoon. She noted one condition requires approval from Development Review Committee-April 22,1997 2 Dan Kamp and Tom Milleson joined DRC. Assistant Planning Director Debbie Arkell introduced the project. Discussion centered on future expansion plans,paving requirements,plans for supplying water/sewer, and traffic patterns. Notes for the file: Planner Arkell noted that the applicant plans to use private well and septic systems. The County Road Supervisor will require paving on Stucky Road from the westem-most property line to South 19th. Mr. Kamp noted the future expansion plans. He continued that the long term plan was to annex to the City and connect to City water/sewer, with the interim systems constructed to meet City specs. Mr. Hixson asked about the retention area location and noted that it should not be located in the same area as the drain field. Mr. Kamp explained the traffic patterns and the plans for the parking lot. Discussion followed oll traffic increasing on S. 19th,the accesses, future City sewer extensions, well location, landscaping, and building sprinklering. Mr. Kamp indicated that the building will not be sprinklered. 2. Buchanan Informal#I-9720 - (Olsen) 3019 South 5th Avenue - An Informal Review for comment and advice for a proposed preschool. Lisa Buchanan and Mike Promisco joined DRC. Associate Planner Dean Patterson presented the project and noted that the main problem is the limited parking available. Notes for file: Eight parking spaces plus one disabled space would be required for this use. Planner Patterson continued that several deviations would be needed for the project to be approved. Mr. Sicz noted that the alley would have to be improved and paved. Mr. Promisco noted that one of the earlier conditions of DRB on the current addition was that the alley was to be paved. Mr. Sicz noted that the paving would be required from the nearest street to the farthest edge of the property. Parking was discussed. Ms. Buchanan presented a parking plan which would allow backing onto 5th Avenue. Chairperson Skelton noted that backing onto the street from a commercial use is not allowed. Discussion followed on the surrounding properties. Ms. Buchanan noted that she is attempting to lease parking from the church across the street for pick-up and drop-off. Development Review Committee-April 22,1997 4