HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-21-1997 DRC Minutes DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY,JANUARY 21, 1997
MINUTES
Members Present: Dave Skelton, John McNeil, Al Scholes, Phil] Forbes, Craig Brawner, Neil
Poulsen
Staff Present: Debbie Arkell, Christopher Williams, Carol Schott
Visitors Present: Ed McCrone, Tom Milleson, Scott McCullough, Eric Klotz, Don Amos,
Douglas Westlake, Chuck Westlake, Joan Rudberg, Gail Schontzler, Lowell
Springer
Chairperson Dave Skelton called the meeting to order at 10.05 a.m.
A. CONTINUED PENDING ADDITIONAL SUBMITTAL MATERIAL
1. Jaramus COA/Dev#Z-9693 - (Patterson) - >>Please note changes<<
- A Certificate of Appropriateness Application with Deviations to permit
several construction projects currently near completion, as follows: conversion
of a previously permitted Storage area over the existing_garage into a guest house;
additions to the existing garage for a carport on the north side and a shop area on
the east side, a second floor addition at the rear of the house; the construction of
a hot tub and deck area beneath the new second story addition; and the demolition
of the front steps and their replacement with a new porch area. Note - comments
are not needed until the additional material has been reviewed.
Chairperson Dave Skelton called the meeting to order at 10:05 a.m. He introduced the first
project. Lowell Springer joined the DRC. Chairperson Skelton noted that additional information
for this project is pending.
Mr. Springer asked to respond to that statement. He explained all the construction projects that
are in non-compliance and how they happened. He and Planner Patterson visited the site and
found that there also appears to be a guest house above the garage. He noted there is no way to
meet the off street parking requirements and there were no building permits issued for the
addition to the lower level of the garage. He recommended to the Jaramus's that they eliminate
the apartment above the garage. He continued that the Jaramus's have assured him tht there will
be no kitchen in the upstairs area. Their son plans to move into it.
Chief Building Official Neil Poulsen noted that the building permit that was issued for the second
story onto the garage was for a storage area only. The second story cannot be used as a living
quarters.
Chairperson Skelton noted that this project will be continued until the additional information is
received.
Mr. Poulsen noted that he had sent Planner Patterson a letter detailing some important concerns
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about the additions, according to Building Code. He continued that to bring the building into
compliance will be difficult. He noted that a one-hour fire-wall will be required on the carport on
the wall that's on the property line and on the side of the building that is also on the property line.
Mr. Springer noted that the simple solution is tear down the addition, however,this home meets
Code as well as several other houses in Bozeman. He noted that he and the Jaramus's have no
other responses other than what he has made today to the DRC regarding the above mentioned
letter from the Planning Office.
Mr. Poulsen noted that the remodeling of this property began in 1979. City Engineer Craig
Brawner inquired about the status of the COA/Dev. Chairperson Skelton noted that the COA
application is continued pending further discussion between Planner Patterson and the applicants
and/or additional written information is received.
Mr. Springer noted it will be simple to meet the alley problem - cut of 4' of the carport roof and
move the supporting posts back.
B. FINAL WEEK REVIEWS
1. Subdivision Regulations-(Arkell)
Discuss recision of Bozeman Area Subdivision Regulations.
Assistant Planning Director Debbie Arkell asked that DRC members provide comments here, via
phone, or written. She noted that Gallatin County has some strong fire code standards and she
asked Fire Operations Director Al Scholes to comment on what is included in this draft. Mr.
Scholes noted that he will review Mr. Winn's copy and comment as soon as possible.
Planner Arkell asked if the grading and drainage sections meet Chief Building Official Neil
Poulsen's Departmental needs. Mr. Poulsen noted that he will have some insertions.
City Engineer Craig Brawner noted that he'd like to incorporate some regulations to support
policies of his Department. He also noted that the Street Department may want to add some
language in support of requiringing contractors/devclopers to keep the street clear of mud and
debris during all phases of construction. He continued that the problem occures after the platting
and infrastructure are complete and the lots are sold. Then the streets become a mess; he
suggested remedies.
Public Services Director Phill Forbes noted that one logical time to incorporate the street cleaning
would be in the Improvements Agreement. However, Planner Arkell noted that all subdivisions
do not require IA's and Mr. Brawner noted it is not really a subdivision problem. Further
discussion of the problem occurred.
Planner Arkell asked Mr. Forbes if he is still comfortable with reviewing and approving
exemptions orif he wants them to go to the City Commission. Mr. Forbes noted that he is
comfortable with the review of exemptions in his office as long as it works for the Planning
Office. Planner Arkell noted that the current process works well for the Planning Office.
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Chairperson Skelton commented that the 35 day requirement on minor subdivision reviews is
often quite short. Planner Arkell noted that the 35 day response requirement is by State Statute. .
B. FINAL WEEK REVIEWS
2. Gibson Guitar Addition MaSP 4Z-9699 - (Skelton)
1894 Orville Way
- A Major Site Plan Application to allow a 9,100 square foot addition to the
existing facility and parking lot expansion.
Tom Milleson, Eric Klotz, and Scott McCullough joined DRC. Chairperson Skelton noted that
the County Commission approved the vacating of the cul-de-sac on Orville Way last Tuesday. He
also noted that the Engineering Department has conditions that refer to the vacated turn around.
Chairperson Skelton stated that the applicants are not requesting variances or deviations for the
project.
Project Engineer Rick Hixson reviewed the conditions of the Engineering Department(all
conditions are on file in the Planning Office). He noted that condition#9 is to be omitted as it has
already been met. Mr.Milleson asked what other equipment would need a turn around besides
snow plows. City Engineer Craig Brawner noted that paving trucks and street maintenance
vehicles would use a turn around in conjunction with future annexation. Also, emergency
vehicles, such as fire trucks, need extra space to turn around.
Mr. Brawner asked if curbing and drop curbing around the external edges of the lot have been
done. Mr. Hixson noted that they are required as part of condition #3.
Chairperson Skelton reviewed his conditions and added two conditions- if landscaping is in the
same area as retention/detention,the slope cannot exceed 1:4 and the parking lot on the north
boundary will have to be located at least 3' from the property line.
Chairperson Skelton noted that the DRC is to make a formal recommendation to the Planning
Board. Mr. Hixson moved, Mr. Scholes seconded,to recommend conditional approval, striking
condition#9 of the Engineering Department and adding the two conditions from the Planning
Office. Motion carried 6 -0.
C. INITIAL WEEK REVIEW
1. 4K Partnership MPA&ZMA#P-9656/#Z-96101 - (Williams)
Story Mill Road and Hillside Lane
A Master Plan Amendment Application to change the land use designation
from Residential to Business Park/Industrial and A Zone Map Amendment
Application to change the present zoning from R-S (Residential Suburban)
to BP (Business Park)or M-1 (Light Manufacturing)on 1.6039 acres.
Planner Christopher Williams introduced the projects. He noted a concern with the change in
zoning due to the location of the residences already there. He also noted the applicants are
planning to install well and septic for the only building, which will house up to 10 employees.
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Chairperson Skelton asked if there were any red flags noticed by Planner Williams. He noted
there were none.
Mr. Brawner inquired if part of this property is located within the City limits. Discussion ensued
on the location of sewer/water currently and the routes available for extensions and signalization
of Story Mi1UBridger Canyon intersection.
Mr. Scholes noted that the property is located within the Story Mill Fire District which contracts
with the City for fire protection, therefore,will have to meet City standards. Mr. Forbes asked
they contract to use City water. Mr. Scholes will check on that. He continued that there could be
an issue depending on what is planned as light manufacturing covers a broad spectrum requiring
different fire ratings. He'd need to see a more complete application to determine the
requirements. Mr. Forbes noted that often an applicant has a business in mind,then, when the
process is completed,the original business idea has fallen through. He continued that the
application needs to be reviewed as it is presented.
Chairperson Skelton wondered if annexation would be required. Mr. Hixson noted that sewer is
quite a distance away, however,Mr. Brawner noted that a waiver of right to protest annexation
would be appropriate.
D. INFORMAL REVIEW
1. Midwest Industries, Inc., Addition-(Skelton)
2320 North 7th Avenue
- An informal review to discuss a 13,000 sq. ft. addition to an existing
facility.
Don Amos, Chuck Westlake, and Douglas Westlake joined DRC. Mr. Amos explained the
proposal,which was discussed by the DRC.
There being no further business, Mr.Hixson moved, Mr. McNeil seconded, that the meeting be
adjourned. Motion carried 6-0.
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