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HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-09-2000 DRB Minutes DESIGN REVIEW BOARD MAY 9,2000 MINUTES ITEM 1. CALL TO ORDER AND ATTENDANCE In the absence of both the Chairperson and Vice Chairperson,those present selected Daniel Glenn as Chairperson Pro Temp. He called the meeting to order at 3:35 p.m. and directed the secretary to record the attendance. Members Present Members Absent Staff Present Visitors Present Melvin Howe Ed McCrone John Sherman Steve Hundley Dan Glenn Dick Pohl Andrew C.Epple Dave Jarrett Joanne Mannell Noel Henry Sorenson Carol Schott Steve Kirchhoff Jim Raznoff Bill Hanson Clark Johnson ITEM 2. MINUTES OF APRIL 25, 2000 Chairperson Pro Temp Glenn called for corrections or additions to the minutes of April 25, 2000. MOTION: Mr. Howe moved, Ms. Noel seconded, to approve the minutes of April 25, 2000, as presented. The motion carried unanimously. INFORMAL REVIEW- Continued Gallatin Center, Lot 10, MaSP#Z-0038- (Sherman) North 191h Avenue and Valley Center Road • A Major Site Plan Application to construct an 89,860 sq. ft. retail space among five buildings. (Materials were sent in the last packet.) Associate Planner John Sherman presented the general guidelines for Gallatin Center. He introduced Steve Hundley and Dave Jarrett,who joined the DRB. Planner Sherman noted this second informal was requested by Mr.Hundley as he was not in attendance at the last meeting. He noted the DRB,will be reviewing this same application at the next meeting as a project review. He reviewed the phasing of Gallatin Center. He described the current proposal,noting he has concerns with the pedestrian walkways and the overall pedestrian circulation within and around the site. He stated he has concerns with the lack of proposed landscaping within the parking lot and with the mass and scale of the buildings. He noted that his staff report will highlight the items stated in today's memo. He noted the recommendations of the DRB will be forwarded to the City Commission. Mr. Hundley stated his concerns are with the importance of the look of the total development and the placement of it on the lot. He noted this type of development is automobile based and the businesses deal in bulk. He explained the rationale for the placement of the structure. He noted the configuration keeps the North 19`b Avenue visibility for the small businesses with the bigger Design Review Board Minutes-May 9,2000 1 stores located to the rear of the property. He noted the landscaping and infrastructure for the project will be installed initially. He stated the pedestrian access will be provided within the landscape easement along North 19th Avenue and it will connect to interior walkways and pathways along Burke Street, the Fen, and Max Street. He stated he doesn't feel people will walk from one store to another due to the size and quantity of items customers will purchase. Discussion followed on the remediation of the huge amounts of asphalt. The consensus of the DRB was to install pedestrian pathways between this structure and the businesses across the street to the north and to install landscaping to create a separation of parking areas within the parking lots. Chairperson Pro Temp Glenn stated that Bozeman is trying to control how and where growth occurs. He prefers a pedestrian friendly atmosphere. He would like to see ways for both vehicles and pedestrians to move about the area. He feels that Bozeman is giving away its downtown businesses to the entryway corridors with huge developments. Mr.Hundley disagreed and noted the motive is not to serve a walking public,but to serve the public in vehicles. Steve Kirchhoff noted a function of scale is to buy in bulk and to under cut other businesses. Mr. Hundley noted they have ringed the site with pedestrian amenities. He stated he might be creative and install pathways within the lots. Chairperson Pro Temp Glenn noted people will not choose to walk in this scenario as the environment is too abominable to the pedestrian. He noted there is nothing in the proposal to encourage pedestrians,then suggested how the site could be rearranged to create a city-like atmosphere. Mr. Hundley explained how the supply unloading bays are screened from the view of people along North 191h Avenue and the Fen. He stated there is no way to make this area pedestrian oriented. Mr.Jarrett noted there are two major types of shoppers-pedestrian and auto oriented. He stated he understands what Chairperson Pro Temp Glenn is suggesting,however, it isn't possible. Mr.Hundley noted they are trying to provide pedestrian access without creating a village atmosphere. Ms.Noel noted, though she would like to spend an afternoon at the site, she isn't tempted to spend it there as it has no appeal to her. Mr. Kirchhoff interjected that whole project is two to three times the size of downtown Bozeman and will compete with it. Mr. Jarrett stated the number of jobs will increase as will the pay. Mr. Kirchhoff noted this is a huge place and suggested the inclusion of residential uses. Planner Sherman summarized there are two different philosophies being discussed,then asked for suggestions for pedestrian walkways and the separation of parking spaces. He noted the number of parking spaces is above that required. He suggested adding landscaping, pedestrian walkways, etc. Chairperson Pro Temp Glenn suggested laying a grid that pulls the parking lots apart with trees in-between and walkable sections. Mr.Hundley indicated the pedestrian pathways that are not clearly shown on the plans. He noted the business people are concerned that parking spaces won't be located in front of their buildings. He concurred with the suggestion of Chairperson Pro Temp Glenn for the walkway between the smaller tenants. Mr. Jarrett noted the Fen and the creek are not shown clearly as a north-south greenbelt pathway. He Design Review Board Minutes-May 9,2000 2 noted some of the uses will change as the infill area fills with residential uses. Mr. Kirchhoff noted his concern is in surrounding the City with big boxes. Mr. Hundley stated this project is marginal as it costs more to operate in Bozeman than in other cities. Mr. Jarrett stated that the buildings of Pet Smart and Michaels will be owned by descendants of the original Bonton Bakery ownerships. Director Epple reminded the DRB that the overall PUD was approved by the City Commission two years ago. DRB's current task is to see that the this proposal meets the guidelines set forth in the PUD. He noted the PUD cannot be redesigned by DRB as a courtyard development and suggested the DRB concentrate on the approved guidelines. Planner Sherman reiterated that the DRB has the guidelines and his summary of what needs to be discussed at the next meeting. Mr. Raznoff noted the business employees and motel patrons need a pathway to get to the stores. He noted DRB will be expecting to see more pedestrian friendly parking lots. Mr. Howe asked if the PUD elements are easily met. Mr. Hundley stated they will be easily met. He noted that DRB at the last meeting stated that the architect and planner were to meet and craft a proposal that DRB can readily recommend approval to the City Commission. Director Epple indicated the location of the entire PUD. He noted there is an opportunity to enact more progressive policies in the remaining 2/3's of the PUD. Mr. Hundley reviewed the pending proposals for the area this year and next. He stated the applicant plans incremental development each year as the City grows. He noted he will send plans which contain pedestrian friendly pathways to Planner Sherman for the next DRB meeting. Mr. Raznoff asked that landscaping be added in the area between the structures and the edge of the parking lot. Mr. Hundley noted the offset of each business space gives the businesses the opportunity for visibility from North 19`h Avenue. In further discussion concerning landscaping and pedestrian pathways, Mr. Hundley noted he is providing points of landscaping at the corners of each offset. Chairperson Pro Temp Glenn asked that the architect show how pedestrians will get from the motel to the proposed businesses. Mr. Hundley stated he may propose foot bridges over the creek to connect the motel to the proposed businesses. ITEM 4. ADJOURNMENT Ther m no er b in s, the meeting was adjourned at 5:00 p.m. r Daniel Glenn, Cfiairperson Pro Temp Design Review Board Design Review Board Minutes-May 9,2000 3 ATTENDANCE ROSTER MAY 9, 2000 Those persons attending the Bozeman Design Review Board meeting are requested to sign the attendance roster. PLEASE PRINT neatly and legibly. NAME ADDRESS ;1 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20.