HomeMy WebLinkAbout04-04-1995 DRC DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - APRIL 4, 1995
Members Present:
Dave Skelton
Fred Shields
Roger Sicz
Kurt Albrecht
Rick Hixson
Staff Present:
Therese Berger
Debbie Arkell
Dale Beland
Lanette Windemaker
Visitors Present:
Mrs . Dorsch
Mike Teslow
Rick Pierzina
Michael Garrity
Sher Rosenberg
Ben Lloyd
Paul Ellis
Final Week Review
1. Spring Meadows Z-9535
Planner Arkell explained that the project will be extended for
two weeks due to the sewer concerns and a likely relocation of the
building to the east side of the site. She indicated that the plan
still does not address a turnaround and maneuverability for fire
protection.
Roger Sicz remarked that his comments would probably not
change.
Planner Arkell noted that final week review will be April
18th.
Second Week Review
1. Bridger Arms Condo Z-9533
Planner Beland reviewed the proposal and concerns regarding
water and sewer, as well as the difficulty in understanding the
contour lines on the plans . He remarked that the applicant, Mike
Teslow, has indicated that 6" lines are available for water and
sewer in Babcock Street, and asked Fred Shields to review the 3/41,
line proposed. He noted the projected drainage.
Roger Sicz remarked that he will require that the alley be
paved westerly to the property line. He commented that the trash
enclosure will not be big enough; the enclosure will need to be
enlarged to accommodate a four yard dumpster.
Planner Beland noted the area south of the building for snow
storage. Mike Teslow remarked that snow storage will also be
provided on both sides of the drive to the north of the site.
Roger Sicz cautioned against snow storage interfering with the site
triangle.
Planner Beland noted that the plan shows the alley to be 15 '
wide. Roger Sicz commented that the alley is only 12 to 13 feet
maximum. Mike Teslow explained that the old plat shows the alley
as 15 ' and narrows down. He added that he could widen it.
Roger Sicz remarked that the whole area is tight on parking
and voiced concern that the developer would request that "no
parking" be posted. He added that 4th will most likely be posted
in the future. Planner Beland noted that the applicant is
requesting a one parking space reduction as a deviation.
Kurt Albrecht noted that the height of the proposed foundation
is lower than the contour of the existing parking lot. Mike Teslow
responded that the structure plans don' t correlate with the grade
and he will adjust the foundation to meet code. Planner Beland
confirmed that the applicant will confirm the existing grade and
ensure that the finished floor elevation is appropriate.
2 . Auto Body Experience Z-9537
Planner Arkell reviewed the proposal and explained that the
existing shop facilities have been used for an individual to
service his own personal bus fleet. She indicated that the
applicant is proposing to pave the parking area for the required
six spaces and one handicapped space.
Planner Arkell noted that DRB gave the adjacent business
Matzinger Electric a deviation which allowed him not to pave his
driveway. She added that Matzinger might share the cost of paving
the western driveway as well as the shared driveway easement. She
explained that the shop was tied in with the same septic system as
the residence back in 1979 . With seven employees , she noted the
County Environmental Health Department may require the shop to have
its own system. She said that the storage areas would need to be
screened per code, and employee parking has to meet paving
requirements . Planner Arkell said that the applicant told her that
the floor drains have been filled with cement.
Fred Shields remarked that he confirmed with Andy Kerr the
existence of a 12" sewer line in Bridger Drive that the applicant
is not hooked up to. He asked if there will be screening between
the north parking area and the property line. Planner Arkell
responded that if the area is designated as employee parking it
must be paved with some screening due to the residential adjacency
to the north.
Planner Arkell reviewed the main issues with Rick Pierzina,
who arrived late to the meeting. Rick Pierzina indicated that he
will most likely block the existing gravel drive out. He remarked
that the was told that the employee parking would not be required
to be paved. Planner Arkell explained that if the area is to be
used for clients vehicles or fleet vehicles there would be leniency
in regards to paving, but paving is required for employee parking.
Planner Skelton commented that the Committee would need to be
sensitive to the type of screening on the north.
Planner Arkell explained that the project would not go before
the Design Review Board as there are no proposed exterior changes .
3 . Amalgamated, Inc. Z-9534
Planner Windemaker reviewed the proposal and noted
adjacencies . She indicated that the applicant is one space short
of meeting parking requirements and so is asking for landscaping in
lieu of parking.
Roger Sicz remarked that there is no place to turn around and
the applicant won' t be allowed to have traffic backing into the
street . He said that the applicant will need to pave the alley.
He said that he doesn' t want them coming back and asking for 2 hour
parking zones in front of their building. Skelton noted Section
18 . 50 . 120 .B005 .
Planner Skelton asked Planner Windemaker to look into the
physical measurements from the property line. Rick Hixson agreed
that preferably a commercial use would not back out into North 5th.
Roger Sicz suggested the parking situation be discussed with Phill
Forbes .
After a general discussion concerning clarification of the
square footage of the structure to be used for offices, Planner
Skelton explained that the DRC does not entertain deviations and
that the applicant will find that staff will be unable to support
the deviation for backing into the alley. Roger Sicz reiterated
his concerns .
Lanette Windemaker asked the applicants if they have
considered taking down the garage to gain more parking spaces . She
added that five spaces plus one handicapped space is required.
Mike Garrity responded that they would like to maintain the garage
if at all possible.
Planner Skelton remarked that 26 ' backup maneuverability would
need to be ensured. He suggested that the applicant and the
adjacent business , Bangtail Bikes, participate together in
improving the alley. Mike Garrity remarked that they are trying to
do a stand alone project.
Roger Sicz question the proposed snow storage. Mike Garrity
noted the proposed snow storage in front of the parking stalls and
to to the side where the landscaping is at. Ben Lloyd explained
that a curb is designed in to provide a wheel stop and that the
plantings will occur far beyond the front of the potential vehicle.
He added that that landscaped area to the east will also be
available for snow storage.
Sher Rosenberg asked for clarification of the turnaround and
backing problem.
Kurt Albrecht explained that if the upstairs area is used for
offices , the applicant may be required to provide a second exit.
Sher Rosenberg remarked that it is her understanding that if the
occupancy is less than 10 people, one exit would suffice.
Dave Skelton noted the need to confirm the distance of the
west wall from the property line as well as verify the property
lines . He suggested that a condition of approval should be the
location of a pin. Mike Garrity commented that he checked with
the Engineering Department and feels that the plans are
representative of the actual property lines .
Second of Two Week Review
1. Speedy Lube Z-9531
Planner Skelton reviewed the proposal and explained that the
Committee will forward recommendations to Planning Director Andy
Epple. He noted the memo from Randi Triem included in the packets
in regards to the third bay.
Paul Ellis confirmed that he is currently using the third bay
for minor modifications and that he plans to continue using the
3rd bay. Dave Skelton confirmed with Paul Ellis that the floor
drain runs into the sewer. He indicated that the floor drain would
either need to be plugged off or an oil/grit separator installed.
He added that the use of the 3rd bay will determine how it is
reviewed under code. Paul Ellis explained that minor service work
includes flushing cooling and transmission systems which utilize a
machine that drains the fluid.
Planner Skelton remarked that he will require that the
applicant obtain written approval from the Fire, Building, and
Engineering Departments to ensure that all deficiencies have been
addresses regarding the use of the 3rd bay. He added that if the
floor drains are to be plugged, the applicant would need to
maintain a dry shop and not hose down any spills . Paul Ellis
commented that they currently use dry down and sweep it up for any
spills .
Chuck Winn remarked that he requires that the welder be
removed and that the garden hose used to transfer flammable liquids
be replaced with a material approved for the transport of flammable
liquids . Paul Ellis confirmed with Chuck Winn that a gas hose
could be used. Chuck Winn added that the modifications discussed
are not necessarily an approval for the use of the third bay.
2 . Danhof Concept Plan
Planner Windemaker reviewed the proposal and noted that the
alley is only 20 ' wide.
Roger Sicz remarked that the applicant will need to pave the
alley.
Planner Windemaker reviewed written comments from John Paysek,
Engineering Department and noted that the applicant will not be
able to install the terracing and stairs in the public right-of
way.
Fred Shields remarked that water and sewer stubs are into the
lot and it would be up to the developer to determine whether the
existing 3/4" water line is adequately sized.
walk. Planner Windemaker noted that the sidewalk proposed is a curb
One Week Review
1. The Willows Pre-application
Planner Windemaker reviewed the project and noted adjacencies .
She explained that the only access to the site is Mendenhall and
noted that there doesn ' t seem to be a sewer stub at Mendenhall .
Fred Shields remarked that he will require that the developer
loop the water main.
Dave Skelton confirmed that the zoning is R-3 . Planner
Windemaker commented that she guesses that the applicant is
proposing fourplexes as the lots are just over 12 , 000 square feet.
Dave Skelton remarked that conditions should included
additional right-of-way for West Babcock and SID waivers . He
remarked that the City should entertain the condition that no
additional developments be allowed to impact West Babcock until it
is improved to a full 60-90 foot right-of-way.
Planner Windemaker noted a 15 , dedication to the City of
Bozeman shown on the site plan. She added that the developer has
proposed to pay $400 per lot in lieu of parkland.
Fred Shields remarked that "Willows" is an unacceptable street
name.