HomeMy WebLinkAbout02-01-1995 DRC DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - FEBRUARY 1, 1995
Members Present:
Roger Sicz
Chuck Winn
John Paysek
Fred Shields
Rick Hixson
Dave Skelton
Roger Sicz
Phill Forbes
Staff Present:
Therese Berger
Debbie Arkell
Patrick Morris
Dale Deland
Lanette Windemaker
Visitors Present:
Kate Reid
Chuck Ferguson
Bob Baldwin
A. Initial Week Reviews
1 . Montana Kids Daycare
Planner Morris briefly reviewed the proposal and noted items
of concern including the eastern setback and the location of the
drive access in relation to the intersection of Campbell Road and
Reeves Road East . He pointed out the proposed trail, the sewer
easement, and the existing stop sign on Reeves Road East and
remarked that the roadway easement for the westerly continuation of
Reeves Road is in the process of being abandoned or is abandoned
altogether.
Dave Skelton indicated that he will meet with Sam Gian-
francisco, County Road Office Superintendent, in regards to the
access placement tomorrow morning.
Planner Morris asked if the Committee sees the potential for
a stop sign on Campbell Road. Phill Forbes remarked that he
doesn' t see that the proposal will impact traffic enough to warrant
a stop sign on Campbell Road. Rick Hixson remarked that he will
need to make a site inspection.
Dave Skelton reminded the Committee that during the Informal
Review, there was a discussion of flip-flopping the plan; however,
the topography limits the options .
Planner Morris asked if it is desirable to consider a shared
access with the parcel south of the subject site . Dave Skelton
remarked that the southern property line shown is not the current
property line and that the applicant would likely relocate the
boundaries . He indicated that the applicant may be able to obtain
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a shared access easement on through an exemption process . John
Paysek remarked that, if the accessway lined straight up with
Reeves Road East, the effect would be a more desirable four-way
intersection.
Roger Sicz asked what the Transportation Plan indicated
regarding the subject roads . Dave Skelton explained that the
tunnel under the interchange has been eliminated and that the only
access onto the southern adjacent lot would be Campbell Road.
Planner Morris inquired about the refuse enclosure . Roger
Sicz responded that a private front-loading garbage service could
be retained as the site is out pf the City jurisdiction.
Fred Shields pointed out the existing 8" main which was laid
to serve the Walker Subdivision.
John Paysek inquired about drainage. Planner Morris noted the
designated snow removal areas and remarked that the subject
property slopes down along the northeast property line . He
remarked that the snow removal areas may be located such that they
may be used as storm water detention areas as well . Planner Morris
voiced concern that the snow removal area to the north of the drive
may be in the vision triangle .
John Paysek asked if the applicant was planning to fill in
some of the area that has an 8' drop at the north east end of the
property. Planner Morris commented that he believes the developer
does not intend to do any filling and therefore he would like to
see the fence step down in sections rather than slope down with the
grade . Rick Hixson remarked that he would need to see some storm
water calculations .
2 . Bridger Blacksmith
Planner Arkell ensured that Committee members had the revised
plans and indicated that the building has been moved to the west to
allow for the 40 , right of way. She indicated that the proposal
meets parking, landscaping and setback requirements .
Phill Forbes asked if there was still a question about trail
easements . Planner Arkell responded that the applicant will have
to provide a minimum 20' wide future trail easement on either the
west or the north side of the site .
Phill Forbes asked if there is any rationale for not building
the trail . Dave Skelton inquired if Staff had any feedback from
the Trail Committee . Planner Arkell indicated that she has had
little feedback and remarked that it would make sense to have the
trail cross at the intersection. Phill Forbes confirmed that the
only point of contiguity between the trail systems is the corner of
the site . Planner Arkell pointed out that the 80 ' right of way
would allow enough space for the trail .
Planner Arkell reviewed the conditions resulting from DRC' s
last review.
3 . Nelson Major Subdivision & Concept Plan
Planner Beland reviewed the project and indicated that Fowler
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Lane would be improved to Huffine Lane . He explained that the
project application is essentially three-part, and includes a Major
Subdivision Preliminary Plat , a Planned Unit Development Concept
Plan and a Conditional Use Permit .
Planner Beland noted a page change in the submitted traffic
study which suggests that Fowler be developed with this project in
the west lanes only.
Planner Beland pointed out the 25' beautification strip would
be located in the US191 right-of-way. He remarked that Rob Bukvich
will not grant an easement for the strip, but may grant some sort
of permit . Dave Skelton remarked that believes the USDA is going
to acquire the adjacent northeastern parcels and would provide a
trail along their existing property. He continued that the USDA
trail system could be consistent with that on the Potter property.
Planner Beland noted that the mid-block accesses off Fowler,
south of Fallon are substandard and pointed out a minor problem
with one of the street names . He indicated that the applicant has
asked for concurrent review by Planning and the DHSS . Craig
Brawner commented that the Water Quality Division now reviews plans
and specifications and noted a self-certification process that the
engineer can undertake . He further commented that the Committee
would need to be fairly sensitive to the phasing of the entire
project in regards to roads and infrastructure. Planner Beland
indicated that the would check with the applicant on phasing of the
subdivision in concert with sewer and water needs for the PUD.
Planner Beland indicated that he will need to confirm the
parkland dedication with the applicant . Phill Forbes commented
that the parkland dedication may have been done with the original
Valley Unit Subdivision.
Craig Brawner remarked that it is unclear whether the
applicant proposes to tie into the existing Valley Unit storm
drainage system.
Dave Skelton confirmed with Planner Beland that city standard
streets would be required throughout the development . Phill Forbes
confirmed that the ditch would be relocated. Planner Beland
explained that the ditch would be placed in the common open space
and would have a path running adjacent to it .
Phill Forbes remarked that the Valley Commons development will
put in a signal .
B. Informal Review
1. Sue Haggarty Property
Planner Windemaker opened the discussion to Tract 7 Wilda
Lane, a lot that Mandeville Real Estate has taken interest in for
the development of a fourplex condo unit .
Dave Skelton remarked that the property would need to annexed
and rezoned in order to get city infrastructure . Planner
Windemaker asked the Committee if the city would be willing to
annex one lot or require the entire subdivision to be annexed.
Phill Forbes remarked that the annexation of one lot out of the
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subdivision would create more problems than solutions .
Dave Skelton commented that the current residents of Wilda
Lane have seem growth encompass them and would most likely oppose
any development other than single family residences .
Chuck Winn pointed out that there is currently no water or
sewer service to the site. Kate Reid confirmed that the lot would
need to be on city water to get city fire protection.
Kate Reid asked if it would be difficult to get a multiple
family dwelling on the site. Planner Arkell remarked that the best
shot at getting a multiple family dwelling on the site would be to
keep the property in County Zoning District No . 1 and put a septic
system in. Kate Reid explained that the required drainfield and
septic system would be too large .
Chuck Ferguson remarked that, with the development of
West Babcock and the multiple family developments adjacent to the
site, he finds it hard to believe that the area has not been
annexed. Planner Windemaker suggested they see if the neighbors
are interested in annexing. Kate Reid confirmed with Planner
Skelton that, even if the property were annexed, Planning Staff
would have difficulty supporting anything other than single family
residences .
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