HomeMy WebLinkAbout11-14-1995 DRC DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES
NOVEMBER 1 ,
Members Present: Chairperson
Dave Skelton, Senior Planner,
Larry Woodward, Assistant Water/Sewer Superintendent
Rick Hixson, Project Engineer
Al Scholes, Fire Deputy Chief
Phill Forbes, Director of Public Service
Staff Present: t planning Director
Debbie Arkell, AAssocnate Planner/Urban Designer
Dean Patterson,
Chris Williams, Planning Office Intern
Therese Berger, Recording Secretary
Visitors Present: Tom Henesh
Ken Thorsen Cindy Goldenstein
Rob Dougherty Chuck Beck
Steve McGough Eldin Chang
Lowell Springer
A. CONTINUED PROJECT REVIEW
1, Thorsen MiSP/COA #Z-95126 - (Patterson) lication for the
617 East Lamnae ro riateness APP artment.
A Minor Site Plan and Certificate of App P
7 garage/workshop with a one bedroom ap
construction of a 20' X 32
and distributed a letter from Mr.
Planner Dean Patterson reviewed the project rocess in conjunction with adjacent property
Thorsen's attorney regarding the ongoing legal p ownership le the alley.
the alley to the City of Bozeman to ensure joint access of the alley. He
owners to deed prev tabled due to the complexP n quiet
title"
explained that the project was p
The last deed was at the turn of the century. One individual has since pursued a q
to obtain a 1/6th interest in the alley.
ed for the alley would need to be finalized
Chairman Skelton remarked that the de
ermit.
prior to the issuance of a building p only other issues
Chairman Skelton confirmed with Plavnew Boards desig recommendations. Planner
regarding the project concern the Design Rev
Patterson not
ed the Engineering Department's memo of 10/10/95 listing final site plan
requirements.
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omestic
Chairman Skelton questioned whether there was an issue with'd archit ct water
an ned
la
sewer service from the existing to the existing water and sewer lines in the principal
that the new structure w p
structure. sewer
be
exten
ed to a
Larry Woodward commented that the code allows
no other options, and withdthe stipulation
secondary building on the same lot only if there arert
ume responsibility for the extnsibil t connection.
the ext en
that the City will not ass ded connections.
indicated that the property owner would assume respo Y for
Chairman Skelton confirmed with Al 5cho1 the househat and the close proximigre access would be y aof pan
considering available access along the east side of
existing fire hydrant along Lamme Street.
Phill Forbes questioned whether the alley would be paved. * Planner Patterson per
indicated that paving would not be required for a11e a would need to become a's access to the alley; oone way and
Roger Sicz, Street/Sanitation tation Superintendent, theY applicant, indicated that he
Mr. Thorsen would be responsible for posting Rick Hixson Thorsen,
�referred the applicant to Dennis
would have no problem posting the al le .
Zindler at the City Shops Complex in regards to obtaining the signage.
Chairman Skelton confirmed with Ken Thorsen and Robert Dougherty their
unde
rstanding and agreement with the conditions. Mr. Dougherty commented that the legal
process should take approximately 30 days.
MOTION - Dave Skelton moved, seconded by At Scholes, to approve Zoning
Application #Z-95126 per conditions outlined by the DRC, and
the additional
The motion carried
condition that
the alley be deeded to eoef th
hvtty tooe members present.
Chairman satisfaction theCity
with a unanimous vo
Chairman Skelton noted the intent to appeal deadline of Friday, November 17th by
noon.
* Planner Dean Patterson revisited the issue of the
need to be posited as a one-way.
meeting, who indicated that the alley wou-- ld
B. SECOND WEEK REVIEWS
1. McGough Annexation (#A-9505) and Zone Map Amendment (#Z-95139)
2715 West Babcock Amendment to annex and
- Applications for Annexation and a Zone Map District No. 1
amend the zoning designation on 7.967 acres from County Zoning
to "R-MR,, (Single Family.Mobile Home) District.
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Assistant Planning Director Debbie Arkell briefly a for reviewed
proposals the sewer and water
the conflict between Phill Forbes and Rick Hixon s time
improvements.
Rick Hixon clarified that his condition requires infrastructure fstbodur which is thhe11ed within
Director of
three years or within a time period defined by the governing Y
Public Service. He said that the intent of the condition is that the infrastructure is installed
in the near future.
ert
Phill Forbes commented that it is in the City's best inrest
have the infrapructureat is
at least partially developed, hence his recommended condit o
installed within 18 months.
Steve McGough, applicant, stated that although he plans to develop the property next
summer, he would like to have the three year time frame inwh which to ins
ltand septic systems
l infrastructure in
the event circumstances change. He indicated that both t existing
function.
Mr. Forbes asked Al Scholes if the City could provideadequate holes commented that f
site for up tection to the
to three years without the infrastructure instal
a hydrant was at least installed along the future interior street, a fire would be easier to
handle.
Phill Forbes questioned whether a two year time that he wants to see a design for
hydrant and
infrastructure would suffice. Larry Woodward commented
the entire development so that it is not piece-mealed.
Planner Arkell confirmed with Mr. Forbes that
the
etco condexisition
could
be odif o ned to to
require that either the infrastructure has to be install
ed or City sewer and water services within two years. Steve McGough e a back-up plan reiterated hat his to tion
is to install the infrastructure all at once next sprang; however,
hook up the existing homes and then install the rest of the infrastructure north of
Mendenhall.
Planner Arkell reviewed conditions of approval
She noted th including te paybatemstconcerning
requirement for an annexation map, and water rights.
the seven year street cut moratorium in relation to City plans to improve West Babcock.
Steve McGough indicated that he has no objection to the conditions.
Chairman Skelton explained that comments and amendment staff reports.conditions from DRC wThe Planning
ill be
incorporated into both the annexation and zone p
Board will review the zone map amendment on Decemberhth, and the City Commission will
make its final decision on the annexation on December 18t
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2. Brunton Annexation (#A-9503) & Zone Map Amendment (#Z-95134)
East of Gallatin County Rest Home
_ Applications for Annexation and a Zone Map Amendment to annex and
amend the zoning designation of a 10 acre tract from "AS" (Agricultural
Suburban) to "B-1" (Neighborhood Service) and "R-3" (Residential Medium
Density). Second Week Review.
a waiver to
Senior Planner Dave Skelton reviewed the for the applications
cStr�eethat
19th Avenue
protest Street improvement Districts (SID) gnalization of Oak
and improvements to Oak Street will be required.
Rick Hixson explained that, with the exception of the requirements for SID waivers,
ments are "FYI" notices pertaining to the seven year street
the Engineering Department com
f the stubs would need to go in prior to paving to
cut moratorium. He said that all o
improve Oak Street begins next summer.
Planner Skelton asked Tom Henesh, developer's engineer, if there are any plans for
the development of the site. Mr. Henesh indicated that the plans are very preliminary.
Rick Hixon noted that the site may be included in the water payback, and would need
at least one east-west dedicated street across the property. Since there wold be only one
ess would
major access from Oak, and no direct access to the proposed B-1 parcel,
have to come through the subdivision.
Planner Skelton suggested that since the Bozeman Area Transportation Plan does not
establish any kind of east-west street network for the area, it might be appropriate to make
some recommendations. He said that he hopes adequate connections can be established with
the initial development of the site.
Planner Skelton said that if the parcel is over 10 acres, cash in lieu of water rights
will not be necessary until the subdivision is platted. The actual acreage, he said, would
have to be confirmed.
Mr. Skelton commented that the "B-l" designation on the site is probably premature
at this time considering it is not at the intersection of an arterial or a collector street. Until
that pattern is established, he said, it will be difficult to recommend approval of the "B-1"
designation based upon the review criteria. Planner Skelton indicated that staff could
probably recommend approval of the annexation and "R-3" zoning at this time.
Tom Henesh questioned the likely future street network for the area. Phill Forbes
stated that, at best, an extension of llth Avenue would be considered a collector and Oak
Street will be an arterial. Mr. Henesh inquired about a western extension of Juniper Street.
Mr. Forbes replied that Juniper Street could possibly be classified as a collector.
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Chairman Skelton explained that comments and conditions from DRC will be
incorporated into both the annexation and zone map amendment staff reports. The Planning
Board will review the zone map amendmenton December 5th, and the City Commission will
make its final decision on the annexation on
December h.
3. Fullerton Office Building MiSP/COA #Z-95145 Second Week Review
15 West Olive Street
- A Minor Site Plan and Certificate of Appropriateness for signage,
landscaping, and site improvements
Planner Dean Patterson reviewed the proposal, noting that parking requirements have
e, he said, concerns h respect to the drive access and Zoningons from the screening
Ordinance which
been met. The main issu
have been added to the application, with p
requirements which will require final approval of the City Commission. The proposal would
require a deviation from Section 18.50.110F "Number & Location of Drive Access" to allow
the existing curb cut to remain at the property line and a deviation from Section
18.50.100D.5.0 "Parking Lot Landscaping" to allow the width of parking lot screening
along the street to be less than 8 feet.
Planner Patterson questioned whether
marked that he Public
believes Mr.could
Forbesgrant
has the
t e
deviation on the curb cut. Chairman Skelton re
authority to grant the deviation.
Phill Forbes indicated that he would rather see the curb cut further away from the
intersection of South Willson Avenue and West Olive Street.
Planner Patterson noted that the existing signage is within 3' of the property line and
considerably larger than what is permitted for a monument sign. He said that since it does
not comply with the Zoning Ordinance, any proposal to retain the monument sign will be
difficult to support.
Chairman Skelton questioned the age of the sign. Cindy Goldstein, Fullerton
Architects, responded that she believes the sign is close to 10 years old.
Planner Patterson indicated that the applicant is asking that the required 8' of
landscape screening be reduced to a 2' to 3' hedge. From a planning point of view, he said,
parking seems more important than
N f landscaping at three parking
Planner Patterson
spaces would be eliminated to accommodate the 8 strip o
noted that the proposed site plan meets landscaping requirements.
Planner Patterson recalled a comment from a previous DRC meeting pertaining to
storm drainage. Rick Hixson remarked that the Engineering Department would have to see
calculations for the storm retention ponds prior to final site plan approval, especially
considering the change from gravel to pavement.
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Larry Woodward questioned the planned time frame for paving. Cindy Goldstein
replied that the main issue is to get the water line in before the ground freezes. She said that
Debbie Arkell, Assistant Planning Director, indicated that the water line could be installed
prior to final site plan approval. Mr. Woodward commented that if the water line is put in
soon, the applicant would have to jackhammer out the sidewalk. Ms. Goldstein noted that
the existing curb cut can be temporarily repaired as it will come out later. She indicated that
the timing of the water line is critical considering the building to the west utilizes an
extension of water service from the U.S. West building to the north.
Mr. Woodward indicated that the applicant has already applied for water and sewer;
however, installation is a matter of getting all of the vehicles moved. He said that he
believes the existing sewer line extension to the smaller building can just be capped, and the
new water meter connection will need to be located 2' from the slab.
C. INITIAL WEEK REVIEWS
1. Bobcat Pad MaSP/COA #Z-95140
1818 Remington Way
A Major Site Plan and Certificate of Appropriateness Application to allow
a new twelve unit, 2-1/2 story apartment building for one bedroom dwelling
units.
Chairman Skelton explained that Planning Director Epple will be making a
determination on whether the Planning Office can entertain a density bonus with the subject
application in light of the original PUD application suggested for the project.
Planner Dean Patterson noted the existing 36 efficiency units on the site and a row of
storage units, some of which would be removed to provide an emergency access to the
adjacent University Condominium (#Z-95141) site, also reviewed today. He said that during
the review of a previous proposal for a new 8-plex at the site, the Planning Board determined
that additional units would be appropriate based upon the existing site conditions; however, a
Planned Unit Development application would be required.
Planner Patterson voiced concern regarding a requirement for the inclusion of a trash
enclosure with the original development of the site and questioned whether another trash
enclosure would be required to serve the new building. Chuck Beck, land owner, indicated
that the City Sanitation Department has knocked two trash enclosures down. Chairman
Skelton suggested that Roger Sicz, Streets/Sanitation Supervisor, make a determination on
trash receptacle needs for the overall site.
Mr. Patterson remarked that on-site parking seems to be adequate. Chairman Skelton
commented that a rear yard might need to be established for the site in lieu of the two side
yards as drawn. A variance or deviation would be needed to encroach into a rear yard to the
8' distance shown on the plans. If the setback issue is determined to be a variance, the
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project would need the Board of Adjustment's approval prior to any site plan review. He
explained that final approval of a major site plan is typically granted by the Planning Board.
Lowell Springer, Springer Group Architects, contended that the lot size is such that
the applicant is not asking for a density bonus.
Rick Hixon noted that the water service in the vicinity is not great and commented
that service to the site would need to be addressed. After a general discussion regarding
existing water mains, the applicant's team clarified that the water main will be looped
through an access easement across the University Condominium property. Eldin Chang,
developer of the University Condo project, indicated that Gaston Engineering & Surveying,
Inc. has been retained to engineer the design for both properties.
Chairman Skelton questioned whether the projects have to be contingent upon each
other. He questioned whether each project could stand on its own from a fire safety point of
view. Al Scholes indicated that he would have to look at the projects more closely. He
noted that a fire sprinkler system would be required. Chuck Beck indicated that his intention
is to install a fire sprinkler system regardless of the requirements.
2. University Condos MaSP/COA #Z-95141 Second Week Review
1800 Kagy Boulevard
- A Major Site Plan and Certificate of Appropriateness Application to allow
the construction of 17 duplex condominiums.
Senior Planner Dave Skelton discussed the annexation and rezoning of the subject site
from "A-S" to "R-3A" and the proposal to build 17 duplex structures with primary access
from Kagy Boulevard. He noted the proposed shared emergency access with the adjacent
Bobcat Pad (#Z-95140) site, and indicated that the easement across Mr. Beck's property will
be a contingency of approval. If this access is to be considered a secondary access, rather
than just an emergency access, it would have to be 24' wide.
Planner Skelton indicated that he has discussed a hammerhead turnaround at the north
end of the site to generate extra parking. Al Scholes indicated that the turnaround would not
be a problem as long as no parking is allowed along that strip. Aldin Chang offered to sign
the area "no parking".
Mr. Skelton noted that the existing drain field easement for the residents to the south,
on property that is not annexed, will be eliminated. Mr. Chang indicated that Gerry Gaston
is working with the neighbors on tying into the water and sewer mains.
Al Scholes commented that the north end of the site might not be the best location for
a new fire hydrant.
Planner Skelton noted that adequate storm retention areas would need to be provided
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and questioned the proposed new iron fence. Mr. Chang indicated that he will submit a
detail of the proposed wrought iron fence.
Phill Forbes noted the possibility that the once access off of Kagy Boulevard would
have to serve, the Church of Christ, the Bobcat Pad, and the University Condo project, as he
believes access control has been established by the Highway Department for Kagy.
Planner Skelton asked if the City would have a problem with a single house having
access to city infrastructure without annexation. Phill Forbes responded that the house would
need to be annexed before it can be connected. Mr. Chang indicated that he has offered to
install and allow the connection at his expense.
Lowell Springer asked if that resident could sign a waiver of right to protest
annexation. Phill Forbes said that he would not recommend a waiver as there is no reason
for the property owner not to annex the site.
Larry Woodward verified the location of water lines within the structures, which, per
the applicant, would come up under a single step in the heated garage, approximately 16'
into the structures. Mr. Woodward emphasized that water lines cannot be run under garage
floors that are not heated.
D. INFORMAL REVIEW
1. Restaurant/Office Site Plan - Lewellyn Architects
326 East Babcock
- An Informal Review of restaurant remodel and conversion of an existing
structure to professional offices.
Chris Williams displayed a site plan and explained that although the property line runs
north-south, the applicant has expressed a desire to change it to run parallel to the creek.
Other concerns expressed by the architect include parking requirements, the location for a
proposed handicapped accessible restroom, and handling of waste water.
Chairman Skelton questioned the amount of waste water from the restaurant that was
being drained into the creek and commented that interior work on the restaurant will have to
meet Department of Health standards. He questioned whether the intent of changing the lot
lines to the east is to get the structure at the northeast corner of the site on its own lot.
Rick Hixon questioned whether the site is hooked up to City sewer. Larry Woodward
indicated that the property owner has expressed an interest in hooking up to sewer services,
which would be possible from the southwest corner of the site. He remarked that the
building at the northwest corner of the site (304 E. Babcock) should be condemned as the
roof is caving in.
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Chris Williams suggested that razing the building at 304 E. Babcock would open up
usable parking space. He indicated that approximately 40 spaces would be required to use
the site as proposed and only 21 are currently available. Any cash-in-lieu-of-parking would
need to be approved by the Parking Commission in writing prior to any formal review of the
site.
Chris Williams indicated that the applicant suggested a lift station to pump waste
water to connect into the pipes from the adjacent restrooms if they were unable to hook into
City services.
Larry Woodward commented that there is not access to a sewer main in West
Babcock. He indicated that there is a problem with trying to extend a water line from the
southwestern building to the northwest of the site in that the canal makes it impossible to run
pipe.
Phill Forbes suggested that the flood plain regulations would likely apply to the site.
Rick Hixon commented that if the reconstruction is 50% of the value of the structure, a flood
plain permit would be required.. He indicated that with the development of the site, a grease
interceptor would be required.
Chris Williams indicated that the applicant has discussed the installation of a two hour
wall between the two occupancies. Chairman Skelton suggested the applicant discuss
building code issues with the Building Division.
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