HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-24-1995 DRC DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 24, 1995
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Chuck Winn, Fire Marshal, Vice Chairperson
Richard Mabee, Building Official
Larry Woodward, Assistant Water/Sewer Superintendent
John Paysek, Project Engineer
Debbie Arkell, Assistant Planning Director
STAFF PRESENT
Dean Patterson
Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT
Jerry Gaston-Gaston Engineering
Randy Johnson
Vice-Chairperson Winn called the meeting to order at 10:10 A.M.
A. FINAL WEEK REVIEW
1. Bozeman Ford MiSP/COA #Z-95136 - (Patterson)
1804 W. Babcock
- A Minor Site Plan and Certificate of Appropriateness
Application for construction of a 54' X 18' auto storage building, increase
paving, and related site improvements.
Planner Patterson reviewed the project. Additional comments included that the
project is opposite the Bozeman Ford dealership. Several years ago, the applicant paved
the area without a permit. He then applied for a variance from code requirements. The
Board of Adjustments granted the variances with several conditions. Some of the conditions
and parts of the original proposed plan still have not been met. Based upon a review of the
zone code and the variance file by Planner Patterson, the variance conditions and new
conditions already agreed to must be met. Such conditions include the elimination of head-
in and angle parking, landscaping, removing paving from within the front yard setback, and
changing the lighting in the rear.
Chairperson Winn asked Engineer Paysek to go over his conditions. Mr. Paysek
stated that condition #4 -- "Applicant shall provide and file with the County Clerk and
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Recorder's Office executed waivers of right to protest creation of SID's for the following:
(a) Street Improvements to Babcock Street (from 11th to 19th), including paving
curb/gutter, sidewalk and storm drainage. (b) Signalization at Babcock/11th and
Babcock/19th" -- was very important.
He also indicated that #5 and#6 are important and must be met. #5 -- "The FSP
shall demonstrate the following: (a) Adequate site drainage (including existing and
proposed contours, flow directional aerials, and sufficient spot elevations along drainage
courses); (b) Adequate drainage to an acceptable discharge device (i.e., drainage swale,
storm drain inlet, etc.); (c) Storm water discharge destination (i.e., ditch basin, etc). If the
site design discloses any adverse impact to off-site properties, necessary design alterations
and/or drainage conveyance devices and storm water easements must be provided; The
applicant is encouraged to drain site runoff through vegetated areas along Babcock to
achieve some level of storm water quality control."
#6 -- "In the event the applicant proposes he ditch owner for approvaltocent discharge, the
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applicant shall obtain written permission
said ditch.
He stated that condition #11 from the DRC Staff Conditions -- "The applicant must
apply for and obtain a Building Permit prior to commencing work, and within one year of
Final Site Plan approval. Building Permits
will not be issued
be met it the Final Site Plan is
approved" -- is also an important condition that
The discussion continued with Mr. Mabee stating that the building must built on a
foundation. Mr. Woodward stated that he had no comment on the project as long as there
were no plans for sewer or water inside the building. Mr. Gaston stated that if there is
water at the existing shed, they will irrigate from that source. Planner Arkell asked if there
are any proposed storm drainage infrastructure improvements located in the public right-of-
way planned. Mr.Paysek stated that he doesn't foresee them, but wanted to cover changes
in the Final Site Plan. Planner Arkell asked if the same was true for #3 -- "No building
permits will be issued prior to completion and acceptance of the public infrastructure
improvements." Mr. Paysek stated that was true. Planner Patterson stated that the owner
wants security lighting for the back lot. Planner Arkell asked how high the poles are; if
they exceed 20 feet, then the applicant cannot just change the globe. There followed a
discussion of suggestions for altering the lighting to the satisfaction of DRC. Planner
Patterson stated that the lighting will be corrected by an addition to condition #10. Planner
Patterson stated that the fence in the front yard setback will be moved. Condition #7 states
the fencing requirement. Mr. Gaston asked if the fence can be left as is. Planner Patterson
stated no, because no parking is allowed in the front yard setback. Mr. Gaston asked if a
barrier could be put into the area to prevent parking and then leave the existing fence.
Planner Arkell stated that if there is a fence, its best to set it on the front yard setback line.
Mr. Gaston and Planner Patterson discussed landscaping in the front yard Mr. Gaston
asked if he can leave the asphalt,if the fence were moved back. Planner Patterson, Planner
Arkell, and Mr. Gaston discussed the 75% live vegetation requirements. Mr. Gaston asked
if he can leave 25% of the front yard setback asphalt and vegetate the rest. Planner
Patterson thought so as long as the percentages were met. Planner Arkell stated yes, as long
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as the fence is on the setback line, 25', then it should work. Planner Patterson stated that
he would reword condition #6 to read -- "The applicant shall rehabilitate the landscaping
in the front yard setback of the subject property to Bozeman Zoning Ordinance standards.
Fully 75% of the front yard shall be covered with live vegetation when in a mature state.
25% of the remainder of the front yard maybe covered by non-vegetative material. ..." Mr.
Gaston asked if leaving the asphalt and vegetating the river rocked area would meet this
condition. Planner Patterson stated that it probably would, however, it may look odd. Mr.
Paysek moved, Planner Arkell seconded, that the Plan be accepted with changes to items
#6 and #10. Motion carried unanimously.
Planner Arkell reminded Mr. Gaston that this decision can be appealed to City Commission
if done by this Friday, with written reasons to them by Tuesday.
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 24, 1995
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Chuck Winn, Fire Marshal, Vice Chairperson
Richard Mabee, Building Official
Larry Woodward, Assistant Water/Sewer Superintendent
John Paysek, Project Engineer
Debbie Arkell, Assistant Planning Director
STAFF PRESENT
Dean Patterson
Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT
Jerry Gaston-Gaston Engineering
Randy Johnson
B. FIRST OF TWO WEEK REVIEWS
1. Amended Plat of Lot 48 Bridger Creek MiSub/#P-9545-(Skelton)
2401-2403 Par Court
- A Minor Subdivision Preliminary Plat for Lot 48 for construction of two
townhouse units (one structure).
Planner Arkell presented the project. She asked Mr. Johnson to review the project
as Planner Skelton was on vacation. Mr. Johnson stated that he has decided to put two
townhouses on Lot 48 Bridger Creek Minor Subdivision. This requires a split of the
property. He asked for suggestions and comments on his project.
Mr. Woodward stated that there could be a problem with water. There is one 2"
water main to that property. It will have to be split by the contractors to service the two
townhouses. The city will install one meter. It will be up to the townhouse owner's
association as to how they split the water bill. The city will only figure one bill-on the 2"
main. Also, there is an 8" sewer main to the property which must be wyed to each unit.
Mr. Johnson asked if they have to put in a manhole. Mr. Woodward stated yes. Mr.
Johnson asked if all lots are set up this way. Planner Arkell stated that most of them are,
unless townhouses were in the original plat. Mr. Woodward stated that it was set up as a
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multiple family lot. Planner Arkell stated that because he is splitting the land and there are
not enough service stubs for each unit, there needs to be a meter pit. The water bill will
be sent to the homeowners' association to be split however they set it up. Planner Arkell
stated that a homeowners' association would probably be needed for grounds upkeep also.
Mr. Woodward stated that a shut off valve to each water line out of the pit is required for
servicing purposes. The plumber can take off from the 2" service line after the meter as he
wishes.
Mr. Woodward asked where the pit will be located. Mr. Johnson stated that it will
be in the driveway on the property Iine. Mr. Woodward stated that he would have to build
it substantial enough for traffic to cross, noting it would be better if the pit were outside the
driveway. Mr. Johnson stated that only the entrance is joined and splits soon after entering
the lot. Planner Arkell stated that the pit could to be shown on the plat. Mr. Woodward
also stated that a utility and access easement has to be shown on the plat. He stated that
the sewer is coming into the property at the line, so it will automatically be split by the city.
The water meter has to be in a 6' manhole. Mr. Johnson asked if he could use a key shut
off for the water. Mr. Paysek further explained the suggestion for using a key shutoff. He
stated that as far as engineering is concerned this is a pretty straight forward subdivision.
Planner Arkell noted sidewalks must be constructed as the structure is built. Mr.
Johnson asked how soon he can plan to start building as he has the townhouses sold.
Planner Arkell explained that the City has 35 days to review the subdivision and either
approve, conditionally approve, or deny the subdivision. The Planning Office will not sign
off on a building permit until the final plat is approved.
Mr. Paysek stated that DRC will come back next week with final comments.
Planner Arkell and Mr. Johnson discussed the timing of getting the building started. Mr.
Woodward stated that city water and sewer can't be installed until November. Mr. Mabee
stated that he can have the research done so that when the final plat is approved, he is
ready to act upon the building permit. Planner Arkell reminded everyone to have their
conditions next week for the Final of Two Week Reviews.
Vice-Chairperson Winn adjourned the meeting.
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