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HomeMy WebLinkAbout07-25-1995 DRC � l �J DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - JULY 25, 1995 Members Present: Chuck Winn, Co-Chairman/Fire Marshall Roger Sicz, Streets/Sanitation Karen Finke, Engineering John Paysek, Engineering Rick Hixson, Engineering Fred Shields , Water/Sewer Phill Forbes, Public Service Kurt Albrecht, Building Staff Present: Georgiann Youngstrom Dave Skelton Visitors Present: Bruce Foley Final Week Review - Countryside PUD MaSub P-9530 Planner Skelton reviewed the proposed project as a subdivision PUD for the purpose of relaxing the street standard. He reviewed the conditions including new ones concerning the placement of the park area which the Recreation Department had sent in a memo to him. Planner Skelton is electing to allow the developer to work out the details with the City Commission and the Parks Advisory Board. Planner Skelton stated that another condition of concern is - gaining access to the property from Fowler. The condition is asking for 60 , right-of-way and the street standard will be the same north to West Babcock of 321 . He noted that with the Pond' s Edge proposed project a condition included 60' ri.ght-of-way across the Delaney and Montana Department of Wildlife, Parks , and Recreation and that the sj'�Lmeis being asked of this project. He stated that it could be a u£ik`l.ity Planner Skelton stated that the sidewalk from Ravalli north to West Babcock is only 3' wide with the street 32 ' wide . He stated that 5' curb sidewalk on both sides of the private streets are to be provided and that they are not to be boulevard sidewalks , he continued with the conditions stating that access is to be provided to pedestrians to the fishing ponds and that most of this is referenced in the Homeowner Covenants documents . P1a ner Skelton stated that the side of the private street on which the No Parking signs will be placed is left to the applicant to decide and the snow removal area on the private streets also need to be designated on the final plat. He noted that one of the conditions will require the homeowners to create their own Design Review Board to create the accepted color palate for the buildings in the subdivision. Planner Skelton commented that he would entertain discussion by Lonny walker concerning this condition and if he is adamant he might consider removing this condition. Planner Skelton stated that the landscape trees are being called Street Scape trees and not boulevard trees as they will be inside the sidewalks . Planner Skelton stated that condition #12 addresses having single family homes on the east side of the proposed project instead of the duplexes as shown on the plan. He said a screening fence is also to be placed on the ease side with the design given to Planning to work between the developer and the homeowners . As previously noted, Planner Skelton pointed out that condition #13 concerns the park land on the south end. Planner Skelton asked Fred Shields if the utility easement needs to be increased. Fred Shields stated that all water not in the public right-of-way needs to be in a 30, utility easement with no trees in the easement and all water and sewer lines are to be clearly indicated on the final landscape plan. He said Montana Power will need to be asked for the size of easement they will need. Fred Shields also stated that the water and sewer needs to be adequately looped and fully usable as well as tested and fully acceptable by the City of Bozeman before building permits will be issued. Roger Sicz stated that he would still like to see the standard street in this area. He said another concern is the open ditches and would like to see on the deeds who is responsible for the ditches . Planner Skelton said that was a good comment and should be included on the Home Owner' s Association. Roger Sicz stated that the ditches need to be documented on who is responsible for any overflowing. Chuck Winn submitted a copy to Planner Skelton of the letter he had written to Lonny Walker. Planner Skelton asked if the committee had talked about the alignment between the two adjacent properties . He wondered if the committee was in a position to look at the two plans to see if they are concurrent. Bruce Foley stated that the two projects are concurrent. Planner Skelton noted that both projects have the same designers . John Paysek reviewed the engineering conditions stating that the majority are typical . He did point out that #19 concerning the sidewalks is one of the special conditions for this project . #19 outlines the conditions that within three years of plat approval sidewalks on both Countryside East and Countryside West are to be complete. The sidewalks to Ravalli north to Countryside West and Countryside East on the back of the lots are also to be done with the property owners to be responsible for the front sidewalks . Bruce Foley stated that he understood the sidewalk along the north end but stated it seemed in order to be consistent on the east side to have the private owners responsible for that sidewalks . John Paysek confirmed that he was talking of the back side of the lots that the developer was to be responsible for. Bruce Foley stated that it seems to be inconsistent to ask Lonny Walker to do this . John Paysek stated that because the city has no jurisdiction on private streets this was the reason for this condition. Planner Skelton stated that he thought it would be o .k. although there may be a problem with the curb cut but it could be in the home owner' s covenants to install the sidewalks . John Paysek stated that engineering will probably not be out to perform inspection on the private streets and therefore could not guarantee that it would not be done on the private streets . Phill Forbes stated he thought the conditions were o .k. as written as in the recent past the committee has stated that sidewalks will be provided by the developer, period. John Paysek stated that condition #21 is placed to discouraged any public flow of water across the streets . He said valley gutters will not be allowed except at the intersection of East Countryside Dr. and Ravalli to channel flow to the north _ He stated that condition #22 is similar to Fred Shields concerning the water and sewer line placement. Planner Skelton stated that the developer needs to double check on any waivers on zone amendment on West Babcock and Fowler as well as waivers on signalization on those two streets . Phill Forbes stated that Fowler needed to be added to condition #15 . Bruce Foley asked about the particular payback stated in the conditions and after some discussion between Fred Shields , Phill Forbes, John Paysek and truce Foley it was decided instead of stating"662 it should say 622 . Planner Skelton stated that the committee is typically still recommending that no improvements be allowed until improvements to West Babcock be done. John Paysek moved, Seconded by Fred Shields, to recommend conditional approval of the project with the condition outlined by DRC. The motion carried with a unanimous voice vote of the members present.