HomeMy WebLinkAbout06-11-1996 DRC DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, JUKE 11, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Neil Poulsen, Karen Finke, Dave Skelton, Phill Forbes, Roger
Sicz, Chuck Winn, Craig Brawner
STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson, Jody Olsen, Christopher Williams, Debbie Arkell,
Chris Saunders, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: Gail Schontzler, Thomas Bourdeaux, T.R. Hendricks, Steven Gray,
Holly Brown, Ray Center, Kate Maxfield, Pete Stein, Jeff Kack
Chairperson Dave Skelton called the meeting to order.
A. FINAL WEEK REVIEW
1. Bozeman Creek Townhouses Concept PUD Z-9649 - (Patterson)
Church Street & Cottonwood
- A Planned Unit Development to build four 2-bedroom townhouses and
4 single family units.
Chairperson Dave Skelton introduced the project. Mr. Thomas Bourdeaux joined the DRC.
Planner Dean Patterson reviewed the project. Chairperson Skelton reminded the members to
provide comments to Planner Patterson.
Planner Patterson noted the following concerns: (1) it is unclear whether the easement of the
north side of the property is actually 30 feet. Planner Patterson would like photocopies of
documentation from the County Clerk and Recorder's Office with the Preliminary Plat
Application. (2) A final decision on vacating the alley is needed as it has an impact on the
placement of the buildings and parking configuration. Mr. Bourdeaux noted that he has a
new site plan that proposes a vacated alley. (3) Access for the individual residences along
Church Street have an opportunity to use shared accesses. (4) The site plan should show the
lot area dedicated to each unit, to simulate residential for lot area and yards.
Mr. Sicz presented his department's concerns: Peach Street needs improvements - gravel,
asphalt, curb and gutter, sidewalks; the applicant should pave the alley to allow for storm
water runoff; his department requires a 15' minimum utility easement for access to the creek
to alleviate ice jams; the creek does flood, even though the City does remove ice jams. It is
the landowner's responsibility to remove fallen trees. The alley should be vacated so the
City doesn't maintain it.
Ms. Finke presented Mr. Woodward's comments. Mr. Woodward noted that townhouse
units will require individual lots with individual water and sewer services. If built as
condominiums, one sewer and one water service could be extended to the 4-unit building
through an easement on one of the single family lots. The land owner will bear the cost of
the installation of the water and sewer services in Church Street. He noted that contrary to
the comment in the Engineering Department's report, the property has no water service
available to it at this time. The contract to install the 6" main in Church Street has not been
let. (Complete text of Mr. Woodward's report on file at the Planning Office.)
Ms. Finke presented her department's concerns. She noted that most of the conditions are
boiler plate, however, under Streets, Curb/Gutter, and Sidewalks, #9, #10, and #11 are not.
#9 requires Church Street between Cottonwood and Peach Streets shall be constructed to City
Standards. #10 requires City standard sidewalks along the west street frontage of Church
Street between Cottonwood and Peach Streets. #11 requires that if the alley remains public,
it shall be paved. (Complete text of Ms. Finke's report on file at the Planning Office.)
Mr. Sicz noted that installing a shared driveway from Church Street would be advantageous.
He commented on the City's plowing of streets and how driveways can become piled with
snow.
Mr. Forbes commented on the need for backup maneuverability for parking lots.
Chairperson Skelton noted that Planner Patterson will compile the DRC's comments and send
them to the applicant. When the applicant submits the PUD, he should be clear if the project
is condominiums or townhouses. He instructed the DRC members to forward their
comments to Planner Patterson.
Discussion ensued on mechanisms to pay for street and utility improvements. Mr.
Bourdeaux noted that he doesn't mind paying his fair share for the improvements.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, JUNE 11, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Neil Poulsen, Karen Finke, Dave Skelton, Phill Forbes, Roger
Sicz, Chuck Winn, Craig Brawner
STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson, Jody Olsen, Christopher Williams, Debbie Arkell,
Chris Saunders, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: Gail Schontzler, Thomas Bourdeaux, T.R. Hendricks, Steven Gray,
Holly Brown, Ray Center, Kate Maxfield, Pete Stein, Jeff Kack
B. SECOND WEEK REVIEW
1. Rodeway Inn MaSP/COA Z-9651 - (Patterson)
2005 Wheat Drive
- A Major Site Plan with a Certificate of Appropriateness Application to
construct a 50 unit motel and covered pool with lounge.
Chairperson Skelton introduced the project. Mr. T.R. Hendricks joined the DRB. Planner
Dean Patterson presented the project. He reviewed last week's concerns. He continued that
detention/retention has to be addressed; he suggested a catch basin with a pump or a cistern.
Mr. Brawner noted that there is no storm drainage system in that area.
Mr. Sicz noted that most of the properties drain into this lot. The other properties have been
required to slow the flow with engineering devices.
Discussion ensued on services available and fire code requirements. Planner Patterson
inquired of Mr. Sicz if the trash proposed enclosure is a problem. Mr. Sicz indicated yes
and noted that he doesn't mind his trucks backing up a short distance, however, whomever
collects the trash has to drive out forward. Further discussion followed on garbage removal.
Planner Patterson inquired if there were any other fire issues. Mr. Winn noted that the
accesses and sprinklering would be checked during final plan processing.
Discussion ensued on paving of Mandeville Lane and the need for a Waiver of Protest for
street improvements for Mandeville Lane and signalization on North 7th at
Griffin/Mandeville Lane.
Chairperson Skelton noted that there is discussion among the business along Mandeville Lane
on sharing the cost of paving it. He noted that a recommendation to the Planning Board will
be made next week.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, JUNE 11, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Neil Poulsen, Karen Finke, Dave Skelton, Phill Forbes, Roger
Sicz, Chuck Winn, Craig Brawner
STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson, Jody Olsen, Christopher Williams, Debbie Arkell,
Chris Saunders, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: Gail Schontzler, Thomas Bourdeaux, T.R. Hendricks, Steven Gray,
Holly Brown, Ray Center, Kate Maxfield, Pete Stein, Jeff Kack
B. SECOND WEEK REVIEW
2. On the Rise MiSP/COA Z-9633 - (Olsen)
212 S. Tracy
- A Minor Site Plan with a Certificate of Appropriateness Application for
a wood-fired bakery.
Chairperson Skelton introduced the project. Planner Jody Olsen presented the project and
noted that the entrance has been changed from the alley to Tracy Avenue. The applicant
reconfigured the access ramp so it is nearer to the access parking space and should be much
safer. In the Staff report, she noted that the applicants will be required to install a security
light in the rear. Also one-way signs will be required along the drive access.
Mr. Poulsen noted that the south side wall will be a problem because of the window,
therefore it is not a fire wall. Mr. Stein noted that he has discussed the problem with Kurt.
They have come up with the possibility of a wall perpendicular to the property line, parallel
to the building and still maintain the window. Another option would be to seal the window
from the inside, and paint the window black. A third option is to order fire rated glass from
Germany a $300 per square foot. Other options were offered. Mr. Poulsen agreed that
those are possible solutions to the problem.
Mr. Sicz noted that the alley may be a problem where it turns in and out. The City doesn't
maintain alleys. Discussion followed on the alley and the clearing of snow from it.
Discussion continued on the left turn out of the parking lot and the likelihood of drivers
turning right instead.
Ms. Finke noted that a sampling manhole is not required. A cleanout is needed.
Mr. Brawner noted that the new traffic circulation plan through the parking lot is much
better. He noted that the driveway is required to be 16' rather than the 12' proposed. Ms.
Maxfield inquired if that wasn't a deviation that Mr. Forbes had jurisdiction to decide. Mr.
Forbes agreed.
Chairperson Skelton noted that a decision will be made next week.
Planner Olsen noted that the project will be reviewed by DRB this afternoon.
Mr. Stein inquired what Mr. Brawner needs for the grading elevations on the parking lot.
Mr. Brawner explained the elevations are required to show where the drainage will go.
Discussion ensued on calculation of storm water amounts and retention/detention.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, JUNE 11, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Neil Poulsen, Karen Finke, Dave Skelton, Phill Forbes, Roger
Sicz, Chuck Winn, Craig Brawner
STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson, Jody Olsen, Christopher Williams, Debbie Arkell,
Chris Saunders, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: Gail Schontzler, Thomas Bourdeaux, T.R. Hendricks, Steven Gray,
Holly Brown, Ray Center, Kate Maxfield, Pete Stein, Jeff Kack
B. SECOND WEEK REVIEW
3. Kountz Trailer Park CUP Z-9648 - (Williams)
8628 Huffine Lane
- A Conditional Use Permit Application to allow expansion of the trailer
park.
Chairperson Skelton introduced the project. Ms. Holly Brown and Mr. Ray Center joined
DRC. Planner Christopher Williams presented the project. Ms. Brown noted that this
proposal will loop an otherwise dead-end street and will extend City sewer.
Mr. Brawner inquired if the applicant will be connecting all the lots to City sewer. Ms.
Brown and Mr. Center affirmed that all lots will be connected. Mr. Brawner noted that one
of the conditions of approval will be that the sanitary service will be connected. Mr. Center
explained the phases of installing the sewer services and the connecting of the units.
Ms. Brown noted that some of the improvements weren't completed. Mr. Brawner, Ms.
Finke, and Ms. Brown discussed the prior conditions and which have been met.
Ms. Brown inquired if the Delaney project to the north will bottleneck this sewer project.
Mr. Brawner noted that it shouldn't happen. Discussion ensued of the meaning of prior
conditions and how to meet them by the State deadline of November 1. Discussion followed
on the type of monetary guarantee required. Chairperson Skelton noted that a Letter of
Credit is preferred.
Mr. Brawner noted there will also be a condition to require that the applicant received State
approval and licensing of the expansion.
Chairperson Skelton noted that a recommendation to the Planning Board will be made next
week.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, JUNE 119 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Neil Poulsen, Karen Finke, Dave Skelton, Phill Forbes, Roger
Sicz, Chuck Winn, Craig Brawner
STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson, Jody Olsen, Christopher Williams, Debbie Arkell,
Chris Saunders, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: Gail Schontzler, Thomas Bourdeaux, T.R. Hendricks, Steven Gray,
Holly Brown, Ray Center, Kate Maxfield, Pete Stein, Jeff Kack
B. SECOND WEEK REVIEW
4. Kack MiSP/COA Z-9650 - (Arkell)
201 Evergreen Drive
- A Minor Site Plan with a Certificate of Appropriateness Application to
construct an office.
Chairperson Skelton introduced the project. Mr. Kack joined the DRC. Planner Debbie
Arkell presented the project. She noted several items that will require attention - the need
for a sign permit, detail of the outside lighting, a detail of the sign, a detail of the bike rack,
and the depiction of a standard sized garbage enclosure.
Mr. Finke noted that her department requires calculations on the three retention/detention
ponds. She also noted that water and sewer are available.
Chairperson Skelton noted that a decision will be made on this project next week.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, JUNE 11, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Neil Poulsen, Karen Finke, Dave Skelton, Phill Forbes, Roger
Sicz, Chuck Winn, Craig Brawner
STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson, Jody Olsen, Christopher Williams, Debbie Arkell,
Chris Saunders, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: Gail Schontzler, Thomas Bourdeaux, T.R. Hendricks, Steven Gray,
Holly Brown, Ray Center, Kate Maxfield, Pete Stein, Jeff Kack
C. INITIAL WEEK REVIEW
1. Bozeman Athletic Club West Annexation A-9603 - (Saunders)
8601 Huffine Lane
- An Application for Annexation of 135+ acres. (First of 3 weeks)
Chairperson Skelton introduced the project. Planner Chris Saunders presented the project.
Discussion ensued on the conditions on the previously approved CUP.
Planner Saunders noted seven issues to be resolved: (1) sewer services may require a trunk
line, (2) dedication of streets, (3) water services may require a trunk, (4) police protection,
(5) fire protection, (6) water rights or cash-in-lieu, (7) an accurate legal description.
Mr. Forbes inquired if the road will be a street or a private drive. Planner Saunders noted
that they have been asked to give easements for public streets. Discussion ensued on other
streets in the area.
Planner Saunders noted that he has asked that a concept plan accompany the preliminary plat
application. Planner Arkell inquired about the footage of the right-of-way for Babcock
Street. Discussion ensued on the footage and Master Plan designation for that area. Mr.
Brawner noted that a condition would be included requiring the guaranteeing of funding of
the traffic signal at Ferguson and Hwy 191. Discussion ensued on paybacks, funding,
triggers for signalization and who pays for the signalization.
Mr. Sicz noted that the streets should continue in the east-west and north-south development
pattern.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, JUNE 11, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Neil Poulsen, Karen Finke, Dave Skelton, Phill Forbes, Roger
Sicz, Chuck Winn, Craig Brawner
STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson, Jody Olsen, Christopher Williams, Debbie Arkell,
Chris Saunders, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: Gail Schontzler, Thomas Bourdeaux, T.R. Hendricks, Steven Gray,
Holly Brown, Ray Center, Kate Maxfield, Pete Stein, Jeff Kack
C. INITIAL WEEK REVIEW
2. Phillips/Reiser/Evans Annexation A-9604 - (Arkell)
East of South Rouse, across from Mason, Accola, & Hoffman Streets
An Application for Annexation of 16.438 acres. (First of 2 weeks -
- - final week of review to be 6/25.)
Chairperson Skelton introduced the project. Planner Debbie Arkell presented the project.
She noted the future plans are for residential development. She discussed the potential
water/sewer/ routes. The applicant plans no immediate development. Discussion ensued on
streets, potential train system connections, and primary access streets. It was noted that
sewer seems to be the biggest problem. Annexation should be no problem.
Mr. Winn moved, Ms. Finke seconded, that the meeting be adjourned. Motion carried
unanimously by voice vote.