HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-28-1996 DRC DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, MAY 28, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Larry Woodward, Water/Sewer; Phill Forbes, Public Service;
Dave Skelton, Senior Planner/Chairperson; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer; Chuck Winn,
Fire Marshal; Roger Sicz, Streets/ Sanitation; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Kurt
Albrecht, Building Department; John Paysek, Project Engineer
STAFF PRESENT: Christopher Williams, Chris Saunders, Dean Patterson, Debbie Arkell,
Jody Olsen, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: Jim Kack, Mike Delaney, Ileana Indreland, Jeff Downhour, Steven
Gray, Kate Maxfield, Rob Bukvich, David McKee, Ray Center, Dennis Foreman, Pete Stein
A. FINAL WEEK REVIEW
1. Pizza Hut Patio Variance C-9607 - (Williams)
2301 West Main Street
- An application for multiple variances to allow a covered patio to
encroach into the front and side yard setbacks, and into the 35' stream/ditch
setback.
Planner Christopher Williams reviewed the project. Chairperson Skelton reminded the
Committee that a recommendation is to be made today. Planner Williams noted that three
additional large landscaping trees will be required.
Mr. Albrecht noted that the Uniform Building Code requires the exterior walls to be 2-hour
construction.
Mr. Hixson noted there could be a problem with parking and the relocation of the
ditch/stream will require a permit.
Chairperson Skelton asked about a sidewalk or improvements to Babcock or a waiver to
protest improvements. He continued that it is a 20% expansion, but it is not a site plan
review. Mr. Forbes noted that the improvements to Babcock wouldn't be appropriate.
Chairperson Skelton noted that these conditions will be forwarded to City Commission.
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, MAY 28, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Larry Woodward, Water/Sewer; Phill Forbes, Public Service;
Dave Skelton, Senior Planner/Chairperson; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer; Chuck Winn,
Fire Marshal; Roger Sicz, Streets/ Sanitation; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Kurt
Albrecht, Building Department; John Paysek, Project Engineer
STAFF PRESENT: Christopher Williams, Chris Saunders, Dean Patterson, Debbie Arkell,
Jody Olsen, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: Jim Kack, Mike Delaney, Ileana Indreland, Jeff Downhour, Steven
Gray, Kate Maxfield, Rob Bukvich, David McKee, Ray Center, Dennis Foreman, Pete Stein
A. FINAL WEEK REVIEW
2, Kack MiSP Z-9644 - (Saunders)
301 Evergreen Drive
- A Minor Site Plan Application to allow construction of a 9600 sq.
ft. retail business structure with a possible/future related apartment above.
Planner Chris Saunders reviewed the project. Mr. Kack joined the discussion.
Mr. Hixson went over his conditions, which were all boiler plate.
Mr. Kack noted that he plans a floor drain in the back of the building.
Chairperson Skelton noted that Larry Woodward, City Water/Sewer Department, will have
some concerns.
Mr. Kack noted Planner Saunders will have conditions on parking and handicapped signage.
Planner Saunders noted that he had no further conditions.
Chairperson Skelton stated that a decision is to be made today.
Mr. Forbes moved, Mr. Winn seconded, that the project be approved with the DRC
conditions. Motion carried unanimously by voice vote.
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, MAY 289 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Larry Woodward, Water/Sewer; Phill Forbes, Public Service;
Dave Skelton, Senior Planner/Chairperson; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer; Chuck Winn,
Fire Marshal; Roger Sicz, Streets/ Sanitation; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Kurt
Albrecht, Building Department; John Paysek, Project Engineer
STAFF PRESENT: Christopher Williams, Chris Saunders, Dean Patterson, Debbie Arkell,
Jody Olsen, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: Jim Kack, Mike Delaney, Ileana Indreland, Jeff Downhour, Steven
Gray, Kate Maxfield, Rob Bukvich, David McKee, Ray Center, Dennis Foreman, Pete Stein
B. SECOND WEEK REVIEW
1. Bozeman Athletic Club CUP Z-9643 - (Saunders)
8601 Huffine Lane
- A Conditional Use Permit Application to allow the construction of an
athletic club on a 135 acre tract.
Planner Chris Saunders presented the project and noted that it has changed from a County
project to a City project due to an annexation application. Mr. Hixson noted that his
department would like another week to review the project. Discussion on what different
plans will be required for the annexation submittal.
Mr. Delaney noted that he would like to proceed as this project was submitted in case the
annexation is not approved. The Committee agreed.
Planner Saunders proceeded with the review by stating that Mr. Delaney has assured him
that a state-of-the-art drainfield will be installed and the streets will align with existing
streets. Mr. Downhour inquired about the street easement. Planner Saunders explained
about the two streets dead-ending on the property. He noted that is also a need for a north-
south street.
Mr. Delaney noted that they have always been ready to grant easements for Ferguson,
Babcock, and any other streets. Ms. Indreland noted that they are still farming the land and
security is important so there aren't 4-wheelers tearing up the fields, which is the reason for
installing gates across the accesses. Mr. Delaney noted that they don't want nuisance traffic
in the area, trying to use the pool or trying out their 4-wheel drives in the fields. Discussion
ensued on parking, the drainfield, sprinklering, and water pressure.
Mr. Downhour noted that right now they are not planning to sprinkler the whole complex.
Mr. Winn noted that if this is inside the City limits, then he has concerns. Discussion
ensued on fire protection. Mr. Winn agreed that it is sufficient at this time.
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Planner Saunders asked for comments on the traffic study that was done. Rob Bukvich noted
that he had looked at the preliminary data and determined that no improvements will be
required to 191 at this time. Mr. Delaney emphasized that the traffic numbers were
calculated using State and personal observation numbers. He continued with comments on
the impact fees. Planner Saunders noted that there will be further discussion on impact fees
at a later date.
Mr. Woodward noted that he can't review this project without seeing the infrastructure for
City connections. He suggested that the applicants may want to lay water main stubs under
the paving so they will be available for connecting to City water/sewer at a later date. Mr.
Woodward inquired if the hydrants would have to be closer to the pond. Mr. Winn noted
that they would have to be closer and more of them. Mr. Delaney noted that they planned to
have two hydrants in front and two in the rear.
Mr. Brawner discussed the water mains and meters that may be needed. Mr. Forbes asked if
this is the time to discuss time frames to complete this project. Mr. Delaney noted that he
expects it to be 13 to 22 weeks and he is hoping for 13 weeks.
Mr. Forbes noted that the project is exceptionally well researched. Chairperson Skelton
noted that a decision will be made on the project next week.
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, MAY 28, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Larry Woodward, Water/Sewer; Phill Forbes, Public Service;
Dave Skelton, Senior Planner/Chairperson; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer; Chuck Winn,
Fire Marshal; Roger Sicz, Streets/ Sanitation; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Kurt
Albrecht, Building Department; John Paysek, Project Engineer
STAFF PRESENT: Christopher Williams, Chris Saunders, Dean Patterson, Debbie Arkell,
Jody Olsen, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: Jim Kack, Mike Delaney, Ileana Indreland, Jeff Downhour, Steven
Gray, Kate Maxfield, Rob Bukvich, David McKee, Ray Center, Dennis Foreman, Pete Stein
C. INITIAL WEEK REVIEW
1. Bozeman Creek Townhouses Concept PUD Z-9649 - (Patterson)
Church Street & Cottonwood
A Planned Unit Development to build four 2-bedroom townhouses and
four single family residences.
Chairperson Skelton explained the PUD process steps - first the concept plan, then the
preliminary plan, and then the final plan. Discussion ensued on the format for the PUD
concept plan.
Planner Dean Patterson presented the project and noted the street situation and the amount of
space involved - including a public alley. He continued that head-in parking from the alley
was planned. There will be four single family homes and four townhouses. A 30' utility
easement/right-of-way exists, and the applicant would like to encroach 15' into it.
Discussion ensued on the 30' easement. Mr. Forbes noted that when the street was vacated,
the City retained the utility easement.
Mr. Woodward noted that the Church Street, adjacent to the property, is a street that the
City is rehabilitating. There is only a 1/2" water line in the street. Mr. Paysek inquired if
this is in the same area as the bed and breakfast (Lehrkind Mansion). Planner Patterson
noted the bed and breakfast is a couple blocks from here.
Discussion ensued on street width, alley width, the adequacy of the sewer system, and the
fact that a sewer main is not available. Mr. Brawner noted the water service probably isn't
adequate. He also noted that there will be a condition that the developer build the
water/sewer mains if needed before the rehabilitation. He continued that until the City has
water/sewer available, this project isn't probable.
Chairperson Skelton noted that there needs to be more information. The concept PUD is an
opportunity to give the applicant ideas for his project. Mr. Brawner noted that they would
have to pay for some of the improvements. Discussion ensued on water/sewer, storm
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drainage, alley widths, the need for flood plain information, service easements to the
townhomes, and service stubs.
Chairperson Skelton noted that this application will also need a subdivision review. Mr.
Woodward noted that when the DRC looks at this formally, the applicant has to present a
definite plan for either condos or townhouses, not an either/or submission.
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, MAY 28, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Larry Woodward, Water/Sewer; Phill Forbes, Public Service;
Dave Skelton, Senior Planner/Chairperson; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer; Chuck Winn,
Fire Marshal; Roger Sicz, Streets/ Sanitation; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Kurt
Albrecht, Building Department; John Paysek, Project Engineer
STAFF PRESENT: Christopher Williams, Chris Saunders, Dean Patterson, Debbie Arkell,
Jody Olsen, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: Jim Kack, Mike Delaney, Ileana Indreland, Jeff Downhour, Steven
Gray, Kate Maxfield, Rob Bukvich, David McKee, Ray Center, Dennis Foreman, Pete Stein
C. INITIAL WEEK REVIEW
2. Old Story Mill Pre-Ap P-9610 - (Arkell)
Story Mill Road & Griffin Drive
A 5 lot Minor Subdivision of the Old Story Mill property.
Planner Debbie Arkell presented the project and noted that she needs comments next week.
The DRC will see this project next week. She noted that water/sewer are shown on the plan.
The water dead-ends at about 1000' from the main.
Discussion ensued on lot lines, closeness of the buildings to lot lines, and the ends of the
sewer/water mains. Mr. Woodward noted that the installation of the water main extension
under Story Mill Road is out to the bidders, therefore, the water locations will change.
Discussion was held on sprinklering of the buildings and refitting the one building for
sprinklers. Mr. Albrecht inquired if the existing buildings will meet UBC. Planner Arkell
noted that is one segment she will need his comments on.
Chairperson Skelton noted there is a need for an exhibit that shows more information.
Planner Arkell noted that the preliminary plat application will have full size drawings and go
through the full subdivision review process.
Mr. Woodward noted that there may be a need for a lift station if the sewer is going to the
main near Horse World. Mr. Brawner suggested connecting to the main at Bridger Creek
Subdivision neat Boylan Road. He also suggested that an assessment of the infrastructure be
required for the pre-application. Planner Arkell noted that this is not usually required and
asked what information is requested The Committee agreed that a water/sewer assessment is
needed. Mr. Brawner also noted that peripheral roads need to be looked at. Discussion
ensued on the usual requirements and how PUD conditions affect what can be required.
Chairperson Skelton asked for sizes on sewer/water mains. Planner Arkell noted that the
plans only show extensions. Chairperson Skelton noted that the location, size, and depth
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have to be shown. Planner Arkell noted that the application may still be incomplete, if the
Water/Sewer Departments need that information at this time. Mr. Woodward stated he
doesn't need to see the size of the proposed mains, as the City will advise the subdivider of
the sizes of the mains. He further noted the sewer extensions shown are not acceptable, as
they sewer mains cannot run under buildings.
Discussion ensued with suggestions for Planner Arkell to give Mr. McCrone regarding
water/sewer mains. Mr. Woodward discussed future access to the water main to be available
from the Story Mill Road main. He noted that the City needs easements through this
property for the existing and proposed mains.
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, MAY 28, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Larry Woodward, Water/Sewer; Phill Forbes, Public Service;
Dave Skelton, Senior Planner/Chairperson; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer; Chuck Winn,
Fire Marshal; Roger Sicz, Streets/ Sanitation; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Kurt
Albrecht, Building Department; John Paysek, Project Engineer
STAFF PRESENT: Christopher Williams, Chris Saunders, Dean Patterson, Debbie Arkell,
Jody Olsen, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: Jim Kack, Mike Delaney, Ileana Indreland, Jeff Downhour, Steven
Gray, Kate Maxfield, Rob Bukvich, David McKee, Ray Center, Dennis Foreman, Pete Stein
D. ONE WEEK REVIEW
1. Diamond Estates Pre-Ap P-9624 - (Saunders)
4521 Durston Road
- A Pre-Application to create a 10 lot Major Subdivision for an R-3A
development on 19.957 acre tract.
Dennis Foreman joined the committee. Planner Chris Saunders presented the project. He
noted that Diamond Estates is the subdivision name for the Doug Smith property that came
through about a month ago as an annexation. The applicant is only developing one portion
as the sewer/water aren't available in the remaining portion. The proposed street will align
with Meagher Street. The Park Commission has stated it will require land for a park rather
than cash-in-lieu. Easements will be needed for the proposed Oak Street.
Mr. Paysek presented his department's conditions. (Complete text of his report on file at the
Planning Office.) (1) the Dead-end water line is too long. Discussion on what is shown on
the site plan. Mr. Woodward noted that there will someday be a cross street. He inquired if
there will be lots there someday. Planner Saunders explained the proposal. Discussion
ensued on streets and cross streets. Chairperson Skelton noted that if there is not a
secondary access, a waiver needs to be requested. Mr. Foreman noted that they didn't show
a secondary access as eventually there will be a street connecting with Oak Street and
probably a cross street to the west. He continued that they wish to restore the existing
house.
Mr. Paysek continued with his report. (2) Retention/detention need to be shown on the site
plan, and (3) an easement will be required for a temporary turn around.
Discussion ensued on the size of the subdivision and the number of lots. Mr. Foreman asked
if his clients might request a waiver to exceed the water main dead-end limits from the City
Commission. Mr. Brawner and Chairperson Skelton concurred. Mr. Foreman noted that the
water main will eventually be extended to the north. Mr. Woodward noted a concern with
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the dead-end.
Chairperson Skelton inquired if there would be a need for a conceptual plan so we can see
what is intended for the whole project, then ask the applicant to come in with phase I. The
Committee agreed that would help with the overall project. Mr. Brawner noted that
easements may be needed for streets. Mr. Forbes noted street easements may not be
necessary, however a utility easement is needed. Discussion ensued on the requirements for
the Preliminary Plat. Discussion ensued on the lengths of blocks and location of park lands.
Chairperson Skelton noted that Planner Saunders may want to contact Terry Baldus for her
input on parks. Mr. Foreman stated that he would bring in a conceptual plan with the
preliminary plat.
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, MAY 28, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Larry Woodward, Water/Sewer; Phill Forbes, Public Service;
Dave Skelton, Senior Planner/Chairperson; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer; Chuck Winn,
Fire Marshal; Roger Sicz, Streets/ Sanitation; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Kurt
Albrecht, Building Department; John Paysek, Project Engineer
STAFF PRESENT: Christopher Williams, Chris Saunders, Dean Patterson, Debbie Arkell,
Jody Olsen, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: Jim Kack, Mike Delaney, Ileana Indreland, Jeff Downhour, Steven
Gray, Kate Maxfield, Rob Bukvich, David McKee, Ray Center, Dennis Foreman, Pete Stein
E. INFORMAL REVIEWS
1. Graf's Amended Plat I-9632 - (Olsen)
Kenyon Drive
- An Amended Plat Application to allow the realignment of a 5 lot Minor
Subdivision.
Planner Jody Olsen present the project. She noted that the applicant wants to create 5 lots
from the 4 existing lots. Mr. Center explained the necessity for the realignment. Discussion
ensued on the length of paved streets, curbing requirements, etc. Mr. Woodward noted the
water line is not located as shown.
Chairperson Skelton suggested installing infrastructure and streets all the way to the end of
the subdivision. Planner Arkell asked why the sewer main is not located in the street. Mr.
Center noted that the street is already paved.
Discussion on the sewer mains - gravity flow potential, water mains and lines and placement
of a cul-de-sac. Chairperson Skelton suggested that the cul-de-sac not be curbed and
guttered, so the farmer can still farm across it - lifting the disk when going across the
paving. Discussion ensued on water stubs.
Chairperson Skelton noted that DRC will condition the street improvements.
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, MAY 289 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Larry Woodward, Water/Sewer; Phill Forbes, Public Service;
Dave Skelton, Senior Planner/Chairperson; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer; Chuck Winn,
Fire Marshal; Roger Sicz, Streets/ Sanitation; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Kurt
Albrecht, Building Department; John Paysek, Project Engineer
STAFF PRESENT: Christopher Williams, Chris Saunders, Dean Patterson, Debbie Arkell,
Jody Olsen, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: Jim Kack, Mike Delaney, Ileana Indreland, Jeff Downhour, Steven
Gray, Kate Maxfield, Rob Bukvich, David McKee, Ray Center, Dennis Foreman, Pete Stein
E. INFORMAL REVIEWS
2. On the Rise I-9633 - (Olsen)
212 S. Tracy
- A proposed wood-fired bakery.
Planner Jody Olsen presented the project. She noted that the entrance should be from the
front and the exit out the alley, rather that the other way around. Mr. Stein noted that
parking seemed to fit better with the rear entrance. Mr. Gray noted that he had talked to the
adjoining parking lot owners, and there are no parking spaces available.
Mr. Stein inquired if the handicapped parking could be located in the street. The Committee
agreed that usually isn't allowed.
Discussion ensued on on-site parking, demolishing of a garage, size of existing water/sewer
lines, alley condition, drainage, existing power poles, width and curbing of driveways.
Mr. Woodward noted that there would be a need for a sampling manhole. Mr. Paysek
concurred and explained to the applicants the purpose of the manhole. Mr. Brawner asked
Mr. Paysek to check on the feasibility of putting in a grease trap in this instance.
Chairperson Skelton noted that a formal application will come before this Committee 3 times
and also be presented to the DRB. If it has deviations, it will go before the City
Commission.
Mr. Albrecht moved, Mr. Woodward seconded, that the meeting be adjourned. Motion
carried unanimously.
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