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HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-14-1996 DRC DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY, MAY 149 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. MEMBERS PRESENT: Chuck Winn, Fire Marshal/Vice Chairperson; Larry Woodward, Water/Sewer; Phill Forbes, Public Service Director; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer STAFF PRESENT: Andrew Epple, Planning Director; Debbie Arkell, Assistant Planning Director; Jody Olsen, Assistant Planner/Critical Lands Coordinator; Chris Saunders, Assistant Planner/Impact Fee Coordinator; Carol Schott, Recording Secretary VISITORS PRESENT: Glenn Wood, Lowell Springer, Dick Andriolo, Dick Prugh, Joan Rudberg, Mike Potter, Steve McGough, Andy Hassanalli, Joby Sabol, Robert Lee, Keith Belden A. FINAL WEEK REVIEW 1. MSU Foundation Preliminary Plat P-9606 - (Skelton) 2501 West College - A Preliminary Plat Application to subdivide 63 acres into 2 commercial or industrial lots. Planning Director Andrew Epple presented the project. He distributed a letter from Sam Gianfrancisco detailing his comments pertaining to the portion of the project that lies within the County's boundaries. The comments pertain to the names of the proposed streets, street width, road maintenance, waiver of protest for future RID's, and street name and stop signs. (Complete text of comments is on file at City/County Planning Office.) Planning Director Epple asked that comments be forwarded to Planner Skelton this afternoon. Mr. Wood noted that he has visited with Mr. Gianfrancisco about paving the extensions of Garfield and Fowler, as the infrastructure for that area isn't installed and he'd rather not have the asphalt torn up in a year or two. Planning Director Epple noted that Mr. Wood and Mr. Gianfrancisco would have to work that out. Mr. Hixson went over his department's recommendations to the Public Service Director. The most important conditions are listed on pages 2-4 and include items dealing with storm water master plan, water and waste water, and streets and traffic. (The complete text is on file in the Planning Office.) He also noted that the applicant will be responsible for making all paybacks required by SID's 621 and 622 prior to filing of the final plat. Mr. Springer asked for the magnitude of the payback. Mr. Hixson didn't know. Mr. Springer noted that they are going to ask DRC to accept Lot 2 as per these conditions, so the DRC will relax the conditions for storm water drainage for Lot 1. Mr. Brawner stated that wasn't a problem as storm water retention/detention will be calculated per lot as 1 each lot is planned. Mr. Prugh asked about the extent of required of water infrastructure for Lot 1. Discussion ensued on water infrastructure phasing for Lots 1 and 2. Discussion on monitoring waste water capacities. Mr. Hixson suggested that Mr. Wood run several more flow monitorings to get more accurate results during peak flow periods for water or wastewater flows or fire flows. Mr. Wood indicated he would do so. Mr. Woodward had one condition to add to Mr. Hixson's - the manholes have to be accessable by truck. Mr. Wood explained the location of the existing and proposed manholes. Discussion ensued about the distance allowed between manholes - 400'. Discussion followed on width and "paving" material for the driveway to manholes. Mr. Wood asked if an access would be allowed for the manholes from College. Mr. Forbes stated that wouldn't be safe for the City. Further discussion on the manhole locations. Mr. Brawner noted it would take a deviation to allow the sewer line to extend over 400'. Mr. Forbes suggested the applicant run the sewer main in front of the building so access to the manhole would be in the parking lot. Planning Director Andrew Epple noted the problem will have to worked out between the Engineering and Water Departments and the applicant. Mr. Springer would rather have the mains run behind the building. He continued that DRC could condition the manhole, looping of mains, and access to the manhole all in Phase 2. Mr. Winn asked about the placement of the hydrant. He noted that it needs to be on-site. Mr. Wood noted, and Mr. Springer concurred, that they intend to install a hydrant at the entrance to the property. Mr. Springer inquired if they run the sewer main across the parking lot, can they change the location of the end of the stub. Mr. Brawner noted that would not be in compliance with Code. Discussion proceeded on moving the property line at a later date. Mr. Woodward noted that would work better for his department as then the manholes would be every 400' and not too long for flushing. Mr. Wood agreed to investigate the idea of moving the property line so the back access would be available. 2 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY, MAY 14, 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. MEMBERS PRESENT: Chuck Winn, Fire Marshal/Vice Chairperson; Larry Woodward, Water/Sewer; Phill Forbes, Public Service Director; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer STAFF PRESENT: Andrew Epple, Planning Director; Debbie Arkell, Assistant Planning Director; Jody Olsen, Assistant Planner/Critical Lands Coordinator; Chris Saunders, Assistant Planner/Impact Fee Coordinator; Carol Schott, Recording Secretary VISITORS PRESENT: Glenn Wood, Lowell Springer, Dick Andriolo, Dick Prugh, Joan Rudberg, Mike Potter, Steve McGough, Andy Hassanalli, Joby Sabol, Robert Lee, Keith Belden A. FINAL WEEK REVIEW 2. Valley Commons Amended Plat P-9621 - (Arkell) Intersection of Fallon and Ferguson A Preliminary Plat Application to amend wording on the Final Plat to allow one-way access from lot 1 to Fallon Street. Planner Debbie Arkell presented the project. She reviewed the comments from last week and noted that the DRC is to give a formal recommendation to the Planning Board this week. Mr. Forbes asked if Planner Arkell had confirmed that Ken LeClair is planning to build office units across the street. Planner Arkell noted that Mr. LeClair is out of town, however, at the time of his ZMA that was his plan. Mr. Brawner noted that if the access is allowed, a City standard access would be required, including sidewalk, drop curb, apron, etc. Mr. Forbes inquired if there are any other access easements. Planner Arkell noted that there are shared access easements onto the private drive, Valley Commons, as allowed by Code. Mr. Potter noted that the sidewalks from Lot 2 will connect to the sidewalk on Fallon Street, even though the current drawing doesn't show them connecting. Vice-Chairperson Winn asked Planner Arkell what is needed from DRC. Planner Arkell stated that DRC is to give a formal recommendation to the Planning Board. Mr. Brawner moved, Mr. Forbes seconded, that a recommendation allowing the access onto Fallon Street with the conditions from the previous and today's DRC meetings be forwarded to the Planning Board. Motion carried unanimously. 3 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY, MAY 14, 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. MEMBERS PRESENT: Chuck Winn, Fire Marshal/Vice Chairperson; Larry Woodward, Water/Sewer; Phill Forbes, Public Service Director; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer STAFF PRESENT: Andrew Epple, Planning Director; Debbie Arkell, Assistant Planning Director; Jody Olsen, Assistant Planner/Critical Lands Coordinator; Chris Saunders, Assistant Planner/Impact Fee Coordinator; Carol Schott, Recording Secretary VISITORS PRESENT: Glenn Wood, Lowell Springer, Dick Andriolo, Dick Prugh, Joan Rudberg, Mike Potter, Steve McGough, Andy Hassanalli, Joby Sabol, Robert Lee, Keith Belden B. SECOND WEEK REVIEW 1. Wheeler Mobile Home Park P-9620 - (Arkell) 2715 W. Babcock - A Preliminary Plat Application to expand an existing 12 unit mobile home park, which also contains one house, into 46 lots. Planner Debbie Arkell presented the project, after Steve McGough joined the committee. She reviewed the comments from last week. She noted the applicant is requesting two variances - one for lot width for Lots 2 through 13 and one for Meghan's Way to be constructed with no curbs. She noted phone services will be from the rear of the lots. Mr. McGough noted that Meghan's Way is proposed to be 22' wide. Discussion ensued on the type of surface that should be on the sidewalk. Mr. McGough would like to pave the 26' street for a 22' driveway and a 4' walkway. Planner Arkell noted that she is leery about the walkway and driveway being connected. In the winter the striping for the walkway won't always be visible. Mr. Brawner noted that Overbrook was allowed to install connecting sidewalks and streets on the private street, but if the walkway is to be concrete, it may as well have a boulevard. Discussion ensued on the street/walk. Mr. McGough noted that if the walk is separate from the street, he would like to gravel the walk. Mr. McGough inquired if he can do the project in phases. Planner Arkell asked him to explain. Mr. McGough wanted to reverse the phases and do it in three phases. He explained the new phase 1 - Lots 1-20 at the north end of the subdivision. Planner Arkell inquired how he plans to access the lots. Mr. McGough noted that he plans to extend Meghan's Way as gravel, install sewer/water and utilities for all phases during phase 1. In Phase 2 Meghan's Way will get paved. Phase 3 will connect the existing mobiles to City services. Planner Arkell read a determination from Impact Fee Coordinator Chris Saunders which 4 stated that if the Annexation Agreement is signed by July 22, 1996, the existing structures would have impact fees waived. Mr. McGough noted that, due to that determination, he will be able to do the development in two phases, if the existing structures have the impact fees waived. Mr. McGough inquired about the timing for the installation of sidewalks and landscaping. Planner Arkell noted the improvements could be part of the improvements agreement if not completed prior to final plat approval. Planner Arkell noted a concern about Phase 1 being on the north end of the property and the access to that Phase. Discussion ensued on graveling Meghan's Way. Mr. McGough noted that without impact fees on the existing units, he can reconsider which Phase to do first. Planner Arkell noted that the current Phase 1 can be developed only so far before two accesses will be required for safety reasons. Mr. Woodward noted that since Mr. McGough is planning to put the mobiles on foundations, the mobiles become manufactured homes. He will no longer require meter pits for the new lots as each home will have its own meter. Mr. McGough explained how he plans to connect water to each home. Planner Arkell summarized what Mr. McGough wants to do. She discussed the difference between manufactured, mobile, and modular homes. Mr. McGough explained that he wants individual stubs for sewer and water service into each lot. Planner Arkell asked Mr. McGough for his definition of a foundation. Mr. McGough noted that a foundation is a crawl space under a structure. Planner Arkell summarized that there will be meter pits for the existing homes and individual stubs for the new lots. She asked that new plans be submitted with the new specs shown. Mr. McGough stated he wants to put in City stubs for all units. Mr. Hixson noted that storm water needs to be addressed. He inquired as to whether the ditch will need to be moved. Mr. McGough noted that he plans to move it. Planner Arkell noted that NRCS will need to be contacted for the 310 permit to move the ditch. Planner Arkell noted she has requested comments from NRCS and Fish, Wildlife and Parks. NRCS returned soils information bud did not comment on the ditch/stream relocation. Mr. Hixson noted that the ground water also has to be addressed and can be part of the storm water report. Discussion ensued as to when all improvements and requirements are needed. Planner Arkell noted she had received comment from Mel McCarver of the Bozeman Police Department about the increased traffic in this area. He wants lighting increased in the park. Mr. Woodward noted that the specifics as to where the gas, electric, phone, and tv cable will be placed need to be shown on the Final Plat. The placement of the utilities will determine where the meter boxes will be installed. Mr. Forbes suggested that Mr. McGough update the site plan and send one to Larry. Mr. Hixson requested a copy also. Planner Arkell noted that final comments are due next week. 5 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY, MAY 14, 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. MEMBERS PRESENT: Chuck Winn, Fire Marshal/Vice Chairperson; Larry Woodward, Water/Sewer; Phill Forbes, Public Service Director; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer STAFF PRESENT: Andrew Epple, Planning Director; Debbie Arkell, Assistant Planning Director; Jody Olsen, Assistant Planner/Critical Lands Coordinator; Chris Saunders, Assistant Planner/Impact Fee Coordinator; Carol Schott, Recording Secretary VISITORS PRESENT: Glenn Wood, Lowell Springer, Dick Andriolo, Dick Prugh, Joan Rudberg, Mike Potter, Steve McGough, Andy Hassanalli, Joby Sabol, Robert Lee, Keith Belden B. SECOND WEEK REVIEW 2. Cafe' Internationale' CUP Z-9641 - (Olsen) 207 West Olive - A Conditional Use Permit Application to allow serving beer and wine with meals and catered events. Planner Jody Olsen presented the project. She reviewed the comments from last week. Mr. Hixson had no comments. Mr. Winn noted that his department is working with the Emerson Cultural Center (the Emerson) on the sprinklering of the building, so that doesn't concern him on this application. Mr. Brawner noted his concern is with the Emerson's non-completion of the required site improvements. Planning Director Epple noted that he is working with the Emerson on the site improvements and the improvements should be 90% complete within 2 months. Planner Olsen noted that Staff will require a special temporary use permit for the outdoor seating area. Discussion ensued on the permit. Planning Director Epple asked that any problems or concerns from DRC be submitted next week. Planner Olsen noted she received a call from the police department with concerns with the location in relation to churches and schools. Planner Olsen noted that final comments are due next week. 6 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY, MAY 14, 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. MEMBERS PRESENT: Chuck Winn, Fire Marshal/Vice Chairperson; Larry Woodward, Water/Sewer; Phill Forbes, Public Service Director; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer STAFF PRESENT: Andrew Epple, Planning Director; Debbie Arkell, Assistant Planning Director; Jody Olsen, Assistant Planner/Critical Lands Coordinator; Chris Saunders, Assistant Planner/Impact Fee Coordinator; Carol Schott, Recording Secretary VISITORS PRESENT: Glenn Wood, Lowell Springer, Dick Andriolo, Dick Prugh, Joan Rudberg, Mike Potter, Steve McGough, Andy Hassanalli, Joby Sabol, Robert Lee, Keith Belden C. INITIAL WEEK REVIEW 1. Kack MiSP Z-9644 - (Saunders) 301 Evergreen Drive A Minor Site Plan Application to allow construction of a 9600 sq. ft. retail business structure with a possible/future related apartment above. Planner Chris Saunders presented the project. He noted that the apartment would be a caretaker's room. Discussion ensued on the shared accesses and the lots already developed in the Business Park Subdivision. Mr. Winn noted that he may have an issue with the turn around not being wide enough. He also noted that there may be some construction issues, but he can't tell until he knows what is developed/proposed around the perimeter. Planner Saunders noted that there is a 1" water stub available. Discussion ensued on water/sewer conditions. 7 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY, MAY 14, 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. MEMBERS PRESENT: Chuck Winn, Fire Marshal/Vice Chairperson; Larry Woodward, Water/Sewer; Phill Forbes, Public Service Director; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer STAFF PRESENT: Andrew Epple, Planning Director; Debbie Arkell, Assistant Planning Director; Jody Olsen, Assistant Planner/Critical Lands Coordinator; Chris Saunders, Assistant Planner/Impact Fee Coordinator; Carol Schott, Recording Secretary VISITORS PRESENT: Glenn Wood, Lowell Springer, Dick Andriolo, Dick Prugh, Joan Rudberg, Mike Potter, Steve McGough, Andy Hassanalli, Joby Sabol, Robert Lee, Keith Belden 2. Perkins MPA P-9618 - (Skelton) Between Oak Street and Baxter Lane, approx. 1400 feet east of N. 19th - A Master Plan Amendment Application to change the land use designation from Urban Residential to a combination of Commercial and Business Park/Industrial. 3. Saccoccia MPA P-9619 - (Skelton) Northeast corner of N. 19th and an extension of Oak Street A Master Plan Amendment Application to change the land use designation from Urban Residential to a combination of Commercial and Business Park/Industrial. Planning Director Andrew Epple presented the projects together as they are adjacent to one another. Planning Director Epple explained the current zoning on existing adjacent properties. The applicants want to change from a urban residential area to a commercial area. He noted the zoning would be decided at the ZMA stage of the process. Mr. Sabol noted that the present zoning fails to buffer light manufacturing from a residential area. Mr. Lee noted that the future development of North 11th to Baxter appears to be commercial in nature. Discussion ensued on the streets to be developed in the area. Planning Director Epple noted the real issue is the appliants' desire for the development of a commercial area. He asked DRC to consider the adequacy of sewer/water. He noted that the change in zoning will probably be controversial and the public hearings will most likely bear this out. Mr. Belden inquired if the Baxter realignment/North 19th abandonment is only through the Saccoccia property. Mr. Forbes noted it is. Mr. Lee noted this project will provide an 8 opportunity to plan the area well. Discussion ensued on combining Saccoccia, Tschache, and Perkins projects. Planning Director Epple noted these projects will allow the determination of where arterial and collector streets will be located. Mr. Brawner noted that the streets are pretty well laid out at present. Discussion ensued on design of access internally rather than from collectors and arterials. Mr. Sabol noted that they have talked to the State about widening the access from Oak Street. The State appeared to agree to the idea. Discussion ensued on the water stubs available from Oak Street. Planning Director Epple noted that the Planning Office, in conjunction with the Master Plan, would want the area to be planned carefully to be sure all development is compatible within the area and with adjacent areas. Planning Director Epple inquired about the status of infrastructure in this area and if there are any plans for an SID for a water loop in the area. Mr. Forbes noted that there is interest in using impact fees to extend and loop the water/sewer in that area. Mr. Forbes moved, Mr. Brawner seconded, that the meeting be adjourned. Motion carried unanimously by voice vote. 9