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HomeMy WebLinkAbout04-09-1996 DRC DEVELOPMENT RE pEW L 9,0996 IITTEE TUESDAY, CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. Water/Sewer; MEMBERS PRESENT: Karen Project Engineer; Larry Woodward, Fink , p Phill Forbes, Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; Chuck Winn,Fire De artment; Public Service n Associate Planner; Jody Olsen,Assistant Planner; STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson, Carol Schott,Recording Secretary Appleby,Joan Rudberg,Fred Ruffell,Dan VISITORS pRESENT: Paul Cook,Matt App ll s'Aitken,Dick Pence,Amy Carpenter, Schmidt,Keith Belden,Richard Campbell,Phy Trina Kallenbach,Terry Morrison,Dick Prugh Senior Planner/Chairperson Dave Skelton called the meeting to order. A. SECOND WEEK REVIEW (Patterson)1 Montana Gift Corral MiSP/COA#Z-9628 - 237 E.Main licarion to do minor A Minor Site Plan/Certificate of Appropriateness AP PI rughly demolition at the rear of the building include two stories in order toditi and 4000 doubling the size of the existing building,which will square feet. oncerns from Planner Dean Patterson presented the project. He reviewed tact fees for the addition, (4) (1) sprinklering the building, (2) increasing the water service, (3) Pa additional retention on the parking lot. Planner Patterson continued C d S(3tr trash enclosure storm water r 2 bike rack as required y concerns: (1)handicapped accessibility, ( ) ( signage designating the use of the gate, (4) wheel stops at the heads of the awe and spgnaQe for it, (7) change in the lease for parking lot, (6) a handicapped parkin space Legion arki.ng, (8)telephone/power poles at the rear of the building may need to e American P armored. e aren't any water down spouts. She also discussed water main Project Engineer Finke noted ther sizes. erintendent Woodward noted the plans have to be inspected by a professional Water/Sewer Su)p a service lines are adequate for the addition. Mr. APPleby engineer to determine if existing explained that the existing bathroom will be moved to«•ards the back and a new bathroom added upstairs. project. The DRC needs to inquired if IDB will take action on this Mr.Hopen is public Service Director Forbes how to interact with them- planner Patterson noted that the applicant know ed that Ron Brey noted the committee will be discussing the president of that group• He continued interaction on Friday. t IDB be given a copy of the Plans. He noted that a decision Chairperson Skelton suggested that will be made on this prof ect next week. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY, APRIL 9, 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL,411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. MEMBERS PRESENT: Karen Finke, Project Engineer; Larry Woodward,Water/Sewer; Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; Chuck Winn,Fire Department; Phill Forbes, Public Service STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson,Associate Planner; Jody Olsen, Assistant Planner; Carol Schott,Recording Secretary Ruf VISITORS PRESENT: Paul Cook,Matt Appleby,Joan Ru be Pence g,FredAmyf Carpenter, ell,Dan Schmidt,Keith Belden,Richard Campbell,Phyllis Trina Kallenbach,Terry Morrison,Dick Prugh 2. Comfort Inn MaSP/COA/DEV#Z-9624- (Olsen) 1370 N. 7th Avenue Appropriateness with Deviations - A Major Site Plan/Certificate of Appro p Application to add 44 rooms to an existing 87 room motel. l that is in use Chairperson Skelton presented the project. Discussion followedre n the Forbeseprivate el that the Zone for domestic use and the legality of that use. Public Service Code provided for impact fees whether the water is public or ipriv 2a line. Discussion on,the size of Water/Sewer Specialist,noted that the City line that is there service line needed and timing of its installation followed. Mr.Woodward noted that the City vice,mostly due to the possibility of doesn 't want an inter-connected private and public water ser contamination. oved by Assistant Planner Jody Olsen noted that the sign in the right-o noted the appliaY will be cant and PlannerSta as soon as manpower and finances allow. Chairperson SkeltonPlanner need to be sure the sign is located totally on the ement,for the Taacent ste arty ddition thaPhavent been installed. Olsen noted that there are many site improvements Landscaping is sparse When Mr. Cook asked for specifics,Planner Olsen noted as follows: (1) edestrianp compared to what was proposed, (2)the illegal storage she is still on site, (3)p walkwayfrom North 7th to the entrance, (4)pedestrian seatigne unit D area in,iscussnt ion ensued.ard near e sign. Mr. Cook asked for suggestions for the location of the storag �g� Planner Olsen continued with the concerns of Staff.. (1)Final Site Plan approval will not be given 2 all parking improvements until all site improvements for the previous addition areanstalled,e{ uue king spaces, (4) shall be installed before construction of the addition begins, 3) p 6 si age of signage of disabled parking spaces, (S) the slope of the assessable parking spaces, O compact parking spaces, (7)the final site plan shall confirm at least an 8' side yard setback on the p 8 the illegal storage shed shall be removed,(9) Pedestrian walkways, a north side of the site, ( ) landscaped areas on the north, side of the building minimum of 4' wide, shall be installed in the and along the south east, and west sides of the parking d`itionst �(A complete text of b cuts at appropriate locations for handicapped guests, (10) - (14)boilerplate con conditions is on file in the Planning Office). Discussion ensued on the Oak Street construction. Public Service Director The water and noted the sewer City is just in the beginning stages of connecting Oak from 7th to . Ru es are to be installed this summer,but little street work will be done this summer.is th . for ffehe explained how the street was relocated in COS for O ak Street,discrepancy in the side yard setback. Mr. Cook asked if ttt would be ber to and sew lines. Forbes noted t with the sidewalk along Oak Street until the City is done with the water it would be best to put it in now. Discussion ensued on the sewer line updating. Woodward ro'Project Finke noteded the water main ll he Final probably be upsized from an 8 to a 12 line this summer. J the Site Plan will have to show a better definition ofMhatRi�idn�a l�proposed.e engineer is projecting a son Skelton asked about detention/retention ponds. purpose. Mr. Cook 1 1/2 foot pond. Planner Olsen inquiredabout tithe hole in the back and its pure and Mr.Ruffell noted they'd have tocheck o Fire Marshall Winn noted the Final Site Plan has to show adequate fire lines. His concern k asked if a water line could comesinto overtaxing the capacity with the new addition. Mr. Coo just the addition. The consensus of the group was negati nva e w ll Discus on of the lowho he cation contact to determine the adequacy of the water from the p of the City service line-under or next to the pool. Ms.Finke noted the location of the fire hydrant has to be on the Final Site Plan. Chairperson Skelton noted that next week a recommendation on this project is to be made to the Planning Board. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY, APRIL 9, 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL,411 EAST MAIN 10.00 A.M. MEMBERS PRESENT: Karen Finke, Project Engineer; Larry Woodward,Water/Sewer; Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; Chuck Winn,Fire Department; Phill Forbes, Public Service STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson, Associate Planner; Jody Olsen, Assistant Planner; Carol Schott,Recording Secretary VISITORS PRESENT: Paul Cook,Matt Appleby,Joan Rudberg,Fred Ruffell,Dan Schmidt,Keith Belden,Richard Campbell,Phyllis Aitken,Dick Pence,Amy Carpenter, Trina Kallenbach,Terry Morrison,Dick Prugh 3. Saddle Peak Village MaSP #Z-9623 - (Olsen) (Lot 29, Bridger Creek) 1002 Boylan Road - A Major Site Plan Application to allow the construction of a 14 unit condominium development. Assistant Planner Jody Olsen presented the project. Chairperson Skelton summarized last week's comments. (1)If the applicant wishes to use the rear yard setbacks,he has two options - (a) appeal the Planning director's decision to BOA, or(b) apply for a variance, either of which should be done before continuing with this project. Planner Olsen continued the summarization:the-width of the(cul de- 2) the City doesn't have as-builts for what is there, (3) fire hydrant locations, sac, and(5)the extension of water and sewer lines. Chairperson Skelton noted that the guidelines don't allow for the Homeowners Association committee to change the roof pitch or to allow a deviation from it. Staff could not support the proposal because it doesn't meet the architectural guidelines of the subdivision. Mr. Campbell noted that the height of the B units with a 6:12 pitch roof would make them very high. He continued that the A units have a 6:12 pitch. Chairperson Skelton noted that a new letter should be requested from Bridger Creek Association noting the applicant is asking for a waiver on the roof pitch. Planner Olsen noted that the plans show a lesser R rating than in the subdivision guidelines. Mr. Campbell stated that Rex Easton had approved it. Planner Olsen is concerned asked how about the length of the driveways, sta stated that the Homeowner's ey are too short. Mr, 1A sociation guidelinesmany designate 2 spaces per unit are required. Mr. Campbell spaces for guests. Planner Olsen noted that the privacy fence in the required front setback shown cannot be higher than 4' due to its location. She's also concerned about the trees. Mr. Campbell wants to put in trees that won't tear up the concrete. Be ofche ked tthep nation of the treeto Cashman'ss in relation to the ursery about the trees. Planner Olsen noted the applicant needs to concrete. She noted that parking has to be signed. Mr. Woodward inquired about the distance to the far end of the water service, if it is farther than 250', it needs to be looped. Mr. Belden measured it of wate�bHe aOso noted a need fore 29 '. Mr. Woodward noted fire hydrant. without looping,there is no secondary source A discussion of the fire hydrant location followed. Mr.Winn noted the hydrant on the comer would be better for the fire department. Mrs A discussion on culdessacs folow .oed � Belden noted that they are single family res dences Ms.Finke noted a need for drainage flow information. Mr. Woodward inquired where the utilities will be installed. He continued that if they are in the front yards,the mains must be 7' from the sidewalk. Mr.Belden noted that the utilities may be installed in the rear yard. Mr. Woodward asked for the location of the utilities to be shown on the site plan. He suggested the applicant visit with Montana Power to determine the best location, as it is better to install it right now than having to redo it later. Mr. Belden asked if the drainage can go down the street along Boylan and then along the gutter. Mr. Forbes noted that would be appropriate. Discussion den ensued on the length of the water main and e noted the ction of the h oices are to either shorten the doesn't want to shorten the mains. Mr. Woodward mains or loop the water system. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY, APRIL 9, 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL,411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. MEMBERS PRESENT: Karen Finke,Project Engineer; Larry Woodward,Water/Sewer; Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; Chuck Winn,Fire Department; Phill Forbes, Public Service STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson,Associate Planner; Jody Olsen, Assistant Planner; Carol Schott,Recording Secretary VISITORS PRESENT: Paul Cook,Matt Appleby,Joan Rudberg,Fred Ruffell,Dan Schmidt,Keith Belden,Richard Campbell, Phyllis Aitken,Dick Pence,Amy Carpenter, Trina Kallenbach,Terry Morrison,Dick Prugh B. INFORMAL REVIEW 1, Carpenter Annexation- (Arkell) Story Mill Road Potential annexation of 12 acres on East side of Story Mill Road, across from McIllhattan Road. Senior Planner Dave Skelton presented the applicant and her clients. Ms. Kaltenbach presented the project. Her clients wish to subdivide 5 lots,though they may drop one lot. They realize they would have to run a pressure line for water and sewer. She feels there would not need to be a road cut for the water service. Ms. Kaltenbach had visited with Planner Arkell about a determination if this project would require a Master Plan Amendment. Planning Director Andrew Epple noted that Planner Arkell hadn't been in the office the last two days and they hadn't made the determination yet. Mr. Forbes noted that if City water and sewer are to be used, annexation is appropriate. Discussion ensued on the roads in the area. Mr. Forbes discussed the water mains from Bridger Creek 2 & 3. Discussion on merits of private/public sewer systems. Mr. Forbes noted there is no distinction between big and little cuts in the pavement after Ms.Kaltenbach commented that the water service stub was at the edge of the road and just a little of the road would be disturbed. Mr. Woodward noted the water will have to be looped. Planner Skelton noted the need for a 30' utility easement. Discussion of the appropriate zoning ensued. A discussion of public or private streets followed. Planner Skelton asked about the way the lots are shown. Mr. Pence stated the lot formation was to keep the creek for everyone to use. Discussion on the design of the street followed. Mr. Winn stated that a T or a cul-de-sac will work for his department at the end of the street. The applicant and his client need to talk to Mr. Sicz about garbage service in that area. Ms. Finke requested copies of the plan. Ms. Kaltenbach inquired if"R-1" zoning would be appropriate for this subdivision. Planner Skelton stated it would be. Mr. Forbes noted this project should be submitted as a subdivision PUD if private streets are proposed. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY, APRIL 9, 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL,411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. MEMBERS PRESENT: Karen Finke, Project Engineer; Larry Woodward,Water/Sewer; Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; Chuck Winn,Fire Department; PhM Forbes, Public Service STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson,Associate Planner; Jody Olsen,Assistant Planner; Carol Schott,Recording Secretary VISITORS PRESENT: Paul Cook,Matt Appleby,Joan Rudberg, Fred RuffelI,Dan Schmidt, Keith Belden,Richard Campbell, Phyllis Aitken,Dick Pence,Amy Carpenter, Trina Kallenbach,Terry Morrison,Dick Prugh B. INFORMAL REVIEW 2. Mr. T's Towing and Service - (Arkell) Comer of N. 8th and Aspen Informal sketch plan review for tilr. Ts Towing and Service. Planner Dave Skelton presented the applicant and client. Mr. Prugh presented the project. He inquired about the potential of vacating 8th Street. He continued that Mr. Morrison has spoken with the lady who owns the adjacent property across the "street" and she is amenable to the vacating. He presented sketches of the two versions that the client wishes to do - one vacating 8th Street and the other not vacating it. Mr. Woodward noted the sewer is in the alley and nothing could be built over it. Mr. Morrison noted the property is located behind the U-haul building. Aspen Street runs between U-Haul and the Cat's Paw. Mr. Prugh explained where 8th now dead ends. He noted there are no improvements between Juniper and Birch on 8th Street. Mr. Forbes inquired if there is only one owner of lots 10-18. Mr. Morrison stated yes. Mr. Forbes sees no reason for 8th to be maintained and not closed. Mr. Morrison wants to vacate 8th to the edge of his property line, thereby allowing fire protection access to remain open. Discussion followed on the use Mr. Morrison plans for the building. He noted he will be storing wreckers and selling tires in the 5 proposed bays. Discussion continued. Mr. Winn noted that the applicant may have to sprinkler the building. Discussion on access to the building for customers. Mr. Woodward noted the water isn't located as shown on their maps. He indicated where it is located and suggested looping from 8th may be easier than their proposal. Discussion ensued on the utilities, existing 12" gas line, and location of water/sewer lines. Mr. Woodward was concerned about access to the manhole located within that area on 8th Street. His crew has to be able to get a truck to it. Mr. Prugh assured him that access is available through the alley from Aspen Street. Mr. Forbes noted that the department not represented today is Streets. Mr.Prugh and Mr. Morrison should seek Mr. Sicz's comments. Discussion on which part of 8th Street is being proposed to be vacated. Discussion followed on the location of a new fire hydrant, if the building is not sprinklered. Mr. Forbes stated that the applicant and his client or he should talk to Mr. Sicz for his position on vacating the street early next week. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY, APRIL 9, 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. MEMBERS PRESENT: Karen Finke, Project Engineer; Larry Woodward, Water/Sewer; Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; Chuck Winn, Fire Department; Phil]Forbes, Public Service STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson, Associate Planner; Jody Olsen,Assistant Planner; Carol Schott,Recording Secretary VISITORS PRESENT: Paul Cook,Matt Appleby,Joan Rudberg,Fred Ruffell,Dan Schmidt,Keith Belden,Richard Campbell, Phyllis Aitken,Dick Pence,Amy Carpenter, Trina Kallenbach,Terry Morrison,Dick Prugh C. FYI 1. Tanner's Way/Horan ZMA#Z-95157 - (Skelton) Between unimproved W.Villard and Western A Zone Map Amendment Application to change the zoning from "AS" to "R-2-A" on 2.591 acres between the two improved ends of Villard Street west of Western Drive. Senior Planner Dave Skelton summarized the meeting held last week with Mr. Springer and Mr. Horan. The greatest concern for the Planning Office is with the private street. Mr. Springer and Mr. Horan want to loop it into Greenway Court. Planner Skelton is considering recommending the building of houses on one side of the property and the street on the other side. Mr. Woodward noted that the area inside the setbacks will be nothing once the utilities are in. Mr. Winn moved, Mr. Forbes seconded, the meeting be adjourned. Motion carried unanimously by voice vote.