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HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-05-1996 DRC DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY,MARCH 5, 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL,411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. Members Present: Larry Woodward, Sewer/Water; Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; Kurt Albrecht, Building Inspector; John Paysek,Project Engineer; Chuck Winn, Fire Marshal; Phill Forbes, Public Service Director; Rick Hixson,Project Engineer Staff Present: Christopher Williams, Project Planner; Derek Strahn,Historic Preservation Officer; Chris Saunders, Assistant Planner; Dean Patterson, Associate Planner; Debbie Arkell,Assistant Planning Director; Carol Schott,Recording Secretary Visitors Present: Jeff Ball,Tim Kearns,Jan Carlson, Jack Ranieri, Candis Dorsch,Lowell Springer, Gene Mickolio,Don Bockhahn,Robert Dougherty,Joan Rudberg A. SECOND WEEK REVIEW 1. Credit Cars MiSP/COA#Z-9614-(Williams) 23 North 7th Avenue - A Minor Site Plan and Certificate of Appropriateness Application to allow site improvements to accommodate car sales use. Project Planner Christopher Williams presented the project. The applicant wants to close two accesses and install two new accesses closer to the alley. Rob Bukvich called this morning and commented that the property line is located in the wrong place on the site plan, or the sign is incorrectly located. He stated the applicant will need to obtain a permit to change the accesses and the applicant will be required to have right-turn-in,right-turn-out access only. Planner Williams noted it is his recommendation that the applicant indicate on the plans where the cars will be displayed. He continued there may also be a problem with the drive access and the light pole. Mr. Forbes noted that Mr.Bukvich will have more comments on this project next week. Discussion followed on the alley accesses. Mr. Paysek asked if there is a retaining wall in the rear of the property. He and Planner Williams discussed it and noted an access was not available through it. Chairperson Skelton asked Planner Williams, Mr. Gilbert, Mr. Bukvich, and Mr. Paysek to meet sometime before next week's meeting. Mr. Winn stated his department has no concerns. Mr. Woodward noted his department has no concerns as long as there are no changes in meter location. Chairperson Skelton noted his concern that the site plan doesn't show the display area and driveway. He also noted that a decision will be made on this project at next week's DRC. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY,MARCH 5, 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL,411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. Members Present: Larry Woodward, Sewer/Water; Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; Kurt Albrecht, Building Inspector; John Paysek, Project Engineer; Chuck Winn, Fire Marshal; Phill Forbes,Public Service Director; Rick Hinson,Project Engineer Staff Present: Christopher Williams,Project Planner; Derek Strahn,Historic Preservation Officer; Chris Saunders, Assistant Planner; Dean Patterson, Associate Planner; Debbie Arkell,Assistant Planning Director; Carol Schott,Recording Secretary Visitors Present: Jeff Ball, Tim Kearns,Jan Carlson,Jack Ranieri, Candis Dorsch, Lowell Springer, Gene Mickolio,Don Bockhahn,Robert Dougherty,Joan Rudberg A. SECOND WEEK REVIEW 2. Ball MiSP/COA#Z-9613 -(Strahn) 323 South Wallace - A Minor Site Plan and Certificate of Appropriateness Application to allow the construction of a 25' X 45' structure consisting of a two car garage and a two bedroom apartment. Historic Preservation Officer Derek Strahn presented the project. Owner/Applicant Jeff Ball joined the Committee at the table. There was discussion as to whether or not Mr. Ball owned the alley or if it was a dedicated alley. The Committee decided the alley is dedicated and Mr. Ball does have access to his property through it. Mr. Ball noted he does not intend to put anything over the 4" gas line or the power line. Mr. Woodward and Mr.Ball discussed sewer stubs. Mr. Strahn asked for comment on paving or not paving the parking lot. The Committee concurred that since it is not commercial, it doesn't need to be paved. Mr.Forbes inquired about the current use of the alley. Mr. Ball stated it is used intermittently by the neighbors. Mr. Ball noted he didn't know what address the new property would have. A discussion on addressing followed. Mr. Woodward inquired if the building will have a crawl space or be on a slab. Mr. Ball stated it is planned to be a slab,like the front building. Mr. Forbes noted that Mr. Sicz will need to look at this. Mr. Strahn inquired if Mr.Paysek had a chance to look into sewer payback in this area. Mr. Paysek noted if there is a payback, it should be small. When quizzed by Mr. Paysek, Mr. Ball stated there has been nothing on his water/sewer bill thus far for the front building. Chairperson Skelton indicated that a decision will be made on this project at next week's DRC. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY,MARCH 5, 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL,411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. Members Present: Larry Woodward, Sewer/Water; Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; Kurt Albrecht,Building Inspector; John Paysek,Project Engineer; Chuck Winn,Fire Marshal; Phill Forbes,Public Service Director; Rick Hixson,Project Engineer Staff Present: Christopher Williams, Project Planner; Derek Strahn,Historic Preservation Officer; Chris Saunders, Assistant Planner; Dean Patterson, Associate Planner; Debbie Arkell,Assistant Planning Director; Carol Schott,Recording Secretary Visitors Present: Jeff Ball, Tim Kearns,Jan Carlson, Jack Ranieri, Candis Dorsch,Lowell Springer, Gene Mickollo,Don Bockhahn,Robert Dougherty,Joan Rudberg A. SECOND WEEK REVIEW 3. Barnard Construction MiSP/COA#Z-9612 -(Saunders) 701 Gold Avenue - A Minor Site Plan and Certificate of Appropriateness Application to allow the expansion of an existing single occupancy office building. Assistant Planner Chris Saunders presented the project. He reviewed the questions from last week. He inquired of Mr. Kearns if the building will be sprinklered. Mr.Kearns stated no. He continued that when the first building was constructed,they had a choice between sprinklering it and installing a second hydrant. They chose to install the hydrant. Planner Saunders noted the easement for the water main is not on file. Mr. Kearns responded that someone is waiting for something to happen to continue the process, though he doesn't know who or what. Mr. Woodward stated if the line hasn't been inspected, it probably is not public. A discussion on sewer easements followed. Mr. Paysek inquired about the easement for the pipeline. Planner Saunders stated there is an easement for it. Mr. Kearns noted he had installed the gas line from the street himself to service his other property. Discussion followed on water mains. Planner Williams noted a need for additional information on landscaping. Mr. Kearns commented he thought the existing foliage on the property exceeded requirements. Planner Williams noted the landscaping needed is along the driveway. Mr. Kearns stated that since the driveway is private, no landscaping may be needed. Chairperson Skelton inquired about the status of the bridge. After receiving a copy of the original conditions from the file for the first building,Mr, Winn asked Mr. Kearns about prior discussions on the bridge. Mr. Kearns stated that they had traded the bridge width for no parking signs long the roadway. He noted he has a copy of a letter about the trade of sprinkler system for the second hydrant. Mr. Winn noted that what's now on the property is there, we're dealing with the new project. Mr.Winn inquired of Mr. Albrecht if the addition meets building code. Mr. Albrecht noted the size of the building doesn't require sprinklering,but the owner can install it voluntarily. Planner Saunders inquired of the two trailers in front of the first building. Mr. Kearns stated they are both temporary and will be removed once the addition is completed. Discussion ensued on distances from fire hydrants to the farthest part of the addition and fire access. Mr.Kearns inquired how the Committee felt about using reprocessed asphalt in the new phase of the parking lot. He would like to leave that which is already there. Mr.Paysek will communicate with Mr. Sicz to get his thoughts on the reprocessed asphalt. Chairperson Skelton noted that a decision on this project is due at next week's DRC meeting. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY,MARCH 5, 1996 CITY COMNIISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. Members Present: Larry Woodward, Sewer/Water; Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; Kurt Albrecht,Building Inspector; John Paysek,Project Engineer; Chuck Winn, Fire Marshal; Phill Forbes, Public Service Director; Rick Hinson, Project Engineer Staff Present: Christopher Williams,Project Planner; Derek Strahn,Historic Preservation Officer; Chris Saunders, Assistant Planner; Dean Patterson, Associate Planner; Debbie Arkell,Assistant Planning Director; Carol Schott,Recording Secretary Visitors Present: Jeff Ball, Tim Kearns, Jan Carlson, Jack Ranieri, Candis Dorsch, Lowell Springer, Gene Mickolio,Don Bockhahn,Robert Dougherty,Joan Rudberg A. SECOND WEEK REVIEW 4. Pine Comer Antiques MiSP/COA/DEV#Z-9616 - (Patterson) 122 West Lamme - A Minor Site Plan and Certificate of Appropriateness Application to allow the conversion of an existing single family residence into a retail establishment selling antiques, collectibles,gifts, and associated items (Pine Comer Antiques). Associate Planner Dean Patterson presented the project. He noted the project is surrounded by commercial lots except for one residential lot. The applicant is requesting two deviations: (1) a 12' driveway rather than the required 24', and (2) partial curbing around the paved parking area. He noted that there may be a need for a gutter for the curbing adjacent to the house. The handicapped parking sign may need to be moved a slight distance. The trash enclosure needs to be concrete floored and have drainage so it doesn't puddle inside the building. The only outside changes to the main building are to widen the doorway and install a ramp for wheelchairs. Mr.Paysek voiced concern about the turnaround space in the parking lots, indicating that he would prefer allparking spaces to face north. Planner Patterson explained there is a hammerhead available or the handicapped parking could be restricted to back-in parking only. Ms. Carlson inquired if the handicapped vehicle couldn't just back up twice to turnaround. Mr. Albrecht noted that since this is a change of use for the building, from a home to a business, a structural engineer should be hired to check the structure for strength for the new load requirements. He and Ms. Carlson discussed the needs and potential loads. Ms. Carlson noted there is another alternative for parking. She could try to purchase parking from the City, however, she'd prefer to provide parking on-site. Discussion followed on the parking available in the immediate area. Ms. Carlson stated she also wanted be able to load/unload items for her business from the parking lot. A discussion ensued on alternate parking options and on-site circulation. Also discussed was retention/detention areas available. Chairperson Skelton reminded everyone that next week they will be making a recommendation to the City Commission on this project. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY,MARCH 5, 1996 CITY COMNIISSION ROOM, CITY HALL,411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. Members Present: Larry Woodward, Sewer/Water; Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; Kurt Albrecht,Building Inspector; John Paysek,Project Engineer; Chuck Winn,Fire Marshal; Phill Forbes,Public Service Director; Rick Hixson,Project Engineer Staff Present: Christopher Williams,Project Planner; Derek Strahn,Historic Preservation Officer; Chris Saunders, Assistant Planner; Dean Patterson, Associate Planner; Debbie Arkell,Assistant Planning Director; Carol Schott,Recording Secretary Visitors Present: Jeff Ball,Tim Kearns,Jan Carlson,Jack Ranieri, Candis Dorsch,Lowell Springer, Gene Mickolio,Don Bockhahn,Robert Dougherty,Joan Rudberg A. SECOND WEEK REVIEW 5. Big Sky Family Trust MiSP#Z-9615 - (Skelton) 20, 22, and 24 Graf Street - A Minor Site Plan Application to allow the construction of three duplex condominiums in Spring Meadows. Senior Planner Dave Skelton presented the project. He inquired of Jack Ranieri as to why the sewer main was drawn where it was. Mr.Ranieri stated by putting it in that location, he was preventing the need for a lift station. Mr. Paysek discussed the required slope for the sewer main. Mr. Woodward stated the 24"water main could conflict with the sewer main. Planner Skelton noted that only a 6" water main would be required. Mr.Ranieri noted that the 24" main was probably a typo. Planner Skelton indicated a concern with the water level in the area. Mr.Ranieri explained the 100 year flood plain line and the areas where water is now standing. Planner Skelton noted the site plans need elevations and grades. A copy of the Association covenants needs to be included, also. He continued that he'd checked on Spring Meadows and Fox Hollow PUD's to be sure these duplexes fit within them, they do. Mr. Albrecht discussed the need for foundation support due to the water table. Mr.Woodward noted that the pumping of puddled water may now be being pumped into the sewer system. This is illegal. He also noted the applicant will give an easement to a manhole to be assessable with a truck. In the back of the lot the applicant may want to put services in on the other side of the water line so access is easier. Ms.Dorsch asked if the covenants were needed by next week's meeting. Planner Skelton responded negatively,but one of the conditions of approval will deal with the submittal of them. Mr.Paysek and Mr. Ranieri discussed the requirements for the final site plan. Planner Skelton noted that the Committee will make a decision on this project next week. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY,MARCH 5, 1996 CITY COMlIISSION ROOM, CITY HALL,411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. Members Present: Larry Woodward, Sewer/Water; Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; Kurt Albrecht,Building Inspector; John Paysek,Project Engineer; Chuck Winn,Fire Marshal; Phill Forbes, Public Service Director; Rick Hinson, Project Engineer Staff Present: Christopher Williams, Project Planner; Derek Strahn,Historic Preservation Officer; Chris Saunders, Assistant Planner; Dean Patterson, Associate Planner; Debbie Arkell,Assistant Planning Director; Carol Schott,Recording Secretary Visitors Present: Jeff Ball, Tim Kearns,Jan Carlson,Jack Ranieri, Candis Dorsch, Lowell Springer, Gene Mickolio,Don Bockhahn,Robert Dougherty,Joan Rudberg B. INITIAL WEEK REVIEW 1. Bistro Relocation CUP Z-9619 - (Olsen) 131 East Main - A Conditional Use Permit Application to allow the conversion of a clothing retail store to a restaurant serving alcoholic beverages; addition of a stairway from the basement; addition of sprinkler system to the basement; and restoration of facade historical features. Withdrawn DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY,MARCH 5, 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL,411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. Members Present: Larry Woodward, Sewer/Water; Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; Kurt Albrecht,Building Inspector; John Paysek, Project Engineer; Chuck Winn, Fire Marshal; Phill Forbes, Public Service Director; Rick Hinson, Project Engineer Staff Present: Christopher Williams,Project Planner; Derek Strahn,Historic Preservation Officer; Chris Saunders, Assistant Planner; Dean Patterson, Associate Planner; Debbie Arkell,Assistant Planning Director; Carol Schott,Recording Secretary Visitors Present: Jeff Ball,Tim Kearns,Jan Carlson, Jack Ranieri, Candis Dorsch, Lowell Springer,Gene Mickolio,Don Bockhahn,Robert Dougherty,Joan Rudberg C. ONE WEEK DISCUSSION ITEMS 1. Carson Place MaSub P-9607-(Skelton) 1304 West Babcock - A Major Subdivision Preapplication Plan application for subdividing 1.91 acres into 20 lots. This is a one week review due to the limited ten day review period. Intent is to identify major issues of concern to assist the applicant in preparing a preliminary plat application. Senior Planner Dave Skelton presented the project. The applicant is proposing to give an easement to the City for a future street. Mr. Springer explained that they will provide a private drive for now. The plan is for it to align with South 13th Street when this new street is installed. He inquired if there is any way to start the procedure to get the street through now. Planner Skelton noted the City is not interested in pursuing it now. Discussion ensued on building a private street now and changing it in the future to a city street. Mr. Woodward asked where the water and sewer mains are in relation to the driveway. Discussion ensued. Mr. Hixson questioned if there is 20' between the right-of-way and property line. Mr. Springer explained the right-of-way. Planner Skelton asked if the length of the lots could be shortened. Mr. Springer stated they could,however,they are trying to maintain 3000 sq. ft. lots. He continued that they plan to try to get a utility easement from the adjacent property owner. Mr. Forbes stated the utilities are to be installed where they are to be forever,not having to move them someday. Mr.Woodward inquired if there will have to be a pavement cut across Babcock for this project. Mr. Springer stated they will be asking for one. Planner Skelton noted the sewer may be at maximum. Mr. Hixson noted there is no evidence that the sewer is overfull. Planner Skelton noted the requirements for common open space have to be determined. He asked Mr. Springer if the water will be looped. Mr. Springer stated it is planned for Phase I. Mr. Hixson noted that storm drainage/retention on the plans. Planner Skelton noted the retention space cannot be in the open space. Planner Skelton asked for input from each department so he can compile for Mr. Springer. Mr.Woodward noted the sewer will be on the edge of the roadway. Mr. Forbes noted the roadway and easements need to be built according to City code. Mr. Springer asked if there was any way the applicant could be repaid by the City for shouldering the burden for the infrastructure installation. Mr. Forbes stated the City Attorney hasn't had time to look at this idea as he's been tied up with impact fees. Discussion followed on sewer and water easements. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY,MARCH 5, 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL,411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. Members .Present: Larry Woodward, Sewer/Water; Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; Kurt Albrecht, Building Inspector; John Paysek,Project Engineer; Chuck Winn, Fire Marshal; Phill Forbes,Public Service Director; Rick Hinson, Project Engineer Staff Present: Christopher Williams,Project Planner; Derek Strahn,Historic Preservation Officer; Chris Saunders, Assistant Planner; Dean Patterson, Associate Planner; Debbie Arkell,Assistant Planning Director; Carol Schott,Recording Secretary Visitors Present: Jeff Ball, Tim Kearns,Jan Carlson,Jack Ranieri, Candis Dorsch, Lowell Springer, Gene Mickolio,Don Bockhahn,Robert Dougherty,Joan Rudberg C. ONE WEEK DISCUSSION ITEMS 2. Wheeler Mobile Home Park-P-9608 - (Arkell) 2715 West Babcock Street - A Major Subdivision Preapplication Plan Application for subdividing 7.967 acres into 48 lots to expand the existing mobile home park. Assistant Planning Director Debbie Arkell presented the project. She noted that though a survey isn't necessary because it is a mobile home park, it does have to go through subdivision review. She continued that Mendenhall is to be dedicated and installed to city standards. Discussion ensued on the need for a 70' tumaround at the end of the cul-de-sac and park lands. Planner Arkell noted the parkland should connect to the Greenway and Westgate parks and should be one large area rather than in strips of land. She noted that Lot 1 will become a non-conforming lot with the West Babcock right-of-way. The diagram doesn't show any guest parking. Several lots have drainfields and septic tanks, the City will want them removed. Mr. Woodward stated the private drive has to be wider to accommodate a 30'water/sewer easement. Mr.Hixson concurred. Discussion about whether or not to require sidewalks and putting utilities in Mendenhall occurred. Mr. Woodward stated there has to be room for the meter pit in the easement. The pit usually is located on the private lot and the shutoff in the easement. He continued by suggesting that there be at least 4 meter pits. In answer to Planner Arkell's question on City billing for water/sewer, Mr. Woodward stated that the City will bill the meters in the pits. It is up to the mobile home park owner to split the bills between the mobile homes or collect on them however he chooses. He continued that the City will not bill each individual mobile home owner. A discussion on storm water detention followed. Planner Arkell requested that comments be given to her today, or at the latest,by Friday. Mr. Winn stated his department will require two additional hydrants. A discussion ensued on park land requirements. Mr. Hixson stated the property is located in water and sewer payback areas. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY,MARCH 5, 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL,411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. Members Present: Larry Woodward, Sewer/Water; Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; Kurt Albrecht, Building Inspector; John Paysek, Project Engineer; Chuck Winn, Fire Marshal; Phill Forbes, Public Service Director; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer Staff Present: Christopher Williams,Project Planner; Derek Strahn,Historic Preservation Officer; Chris Saunders, Assistant Planner; Dean Patterson, Associate Planner; Debbie Arkell,Assistant Planning Director; Carol Schott,Recording Secretary Visitors Present: Jeff Ball, Tim Kearns,Jan Carlson,Jack Ranieri, Candis Dorsch,Lowell Springer, Gene Mickolio,Don Bockhahn,Robert Dougherty,Joan Rudberg D. INFORMAL REVIEW 1. 424 N. Rouse - An subdivision of property and addition of a single family home with new water and sewer. Architect Robert Dougherty explained the project. It is a huge lot with two water and two sewer services. The owners are wanting to create a drive-through.to Perkins Street. They propose to build a 4-plex. Discussion ensued on the size of the lots, parking, driveway restrictions, green-space, landscaping, separate service lines for the 4-plex, water and sewer lines. Chairperson Skelton suggested Mr. Dougherty retain an engineer soon. Mr. Hixson noted that any curb cuts on Rouse will have to be approved by MDOT.