HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-30-1996 DRC TUESDAY, JANUARY 30 , 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; John Paysek,Project
Engineer; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer; Phill Forbes, Public Service Director; Larry
Woodward, Water/Sewer; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Roger Sicz, Streets/Sanitation;
Richard Mabee, Building Official; Chuck Winn, Fire Department
STAFF PRESENT: Christopher Williams, Project Planner; Debbie Arkell, Assistant
Planning Director; Dean Patterson, Associate Planner/Urban Design; Chris Saunders,
Assistant Planner; Carol Schott, Recording Secretary
VISITORS PRESENT: Steve Coffey, Keith Belden, Bruce Foley, Kevin White, Rob
Bukvich, Tun Horton, Scott Bell, Joan Rudberg,Lowell Springer,Doug Morley, Clint Litle
C. INITIAL WEEK REVIEW
3. Intermountain Produce MiSP #Z-960 - (Saunders)
20 Orville Way
- A Minor Site Plan Application to construct a refrigerated warehouse/office
building to be used for distribution of fresh fruit.
Steve Coffey presented the project. Chairperson Skelton stated that Gibson Guitar will give a
letter of credit for a 20' wide county road. He continued that there is a need for waivers for
future City streets, water mains, and sewer lines. In answer to a question on the size of the
driving aisles and accesses, Mr. Coffey stated that they are designed for semi-trucks. Mr.
Brawner noted that the drive accesses are larger than allowed by Code. The drive aisle widths
need to be identified. It was suggested that the applicant consider changing parking to 90 degree
angles.
Mr. Coffey noted that Gibson Guitar owns the property to the north, west, and northwest.
Mr. Brawner noted the need for conditions for a private well and a sample manhole. Mr.
Forbes stated that the location is in the Bozeman solvent site. He inquired as to who is
responsible for continued water monitoring. Mr. Woodward responded that the City would
do the monitoring. The well needs to be metered for sewer billing. The location of the sewer
line needs to be noted on the plans.
Mr. Horton described the refrigeration of the large building and the leak detection system. He
stated that he will have 4 employees. In response to Mr. Brawner's question on the docks, Mr.
Horton explained the docking and the seal-a-doors. Mr. Coffey noted that the company doesn't
produce much refuse. The applicant would pull a dumpster out onto the dock for disposal.
Chairperson Skelton noted that a decision will have to made by this Committee in two weeks.
This project also goes before DRB in two weeks.
Mr. Forbes stated that Mr. Horton will want to talk to Mr. Gianfrancisco about a street cut for
the sewer installation. Mr. Horton inquired if the building will have to be sprinklered. Mr.
Winn responded that he will have to visit with the fire chief of the Rae Fire Department. Mr.
Mabee stated that the building will have to meet UBC on sprinklering.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, JANUARY 30 , 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; John Paysek, Project
Engineer; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer; Phill Forbes, Public Service Director; Larry
Woodward, Water/Sewer; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Roger Sicz, Streets/Sanitation;
Richard Mabee, Building Official; Chuck Winn, Fire Department
STAFF PRESENT: Christopher Williams, Project Planner; Debbie Arkell, Assistant
Planning Director; Dean Patterson, Associate Planner/Urban Design; Chris Saunders,
Assistant Planner; Carol Schott, Recording Secretary
VISITORS PRESENT: Steve Coffey, Keith Belden, Bruce Foley, Kevin White, Rob
Bukvich, Tim Horton,Scott Bell,Joan Rudberg,Lowell Springer,Doug Morley, Clint Litle
B. SECOND WEEK REVIEW
2. Osterman MaSP #Z-95156 - (Patterson)
1800 N. Rouse
- A Major Site Plan Application to allow the construction of a mini-storage
warehouse facility.
Planner Dean Patterson reviewed concerns from last week. Mr. Morley displayed the modified
drawings and stated that they had realigned the driveway so that it goes straight through the
warehouse facility. He continued that he had redrawn the parking spaces to allow 6 per potential
business.
Mr. Winn explained that the crash gates did as much damage to the fire trucks as to the gates,
therefore, he doesn't like them. He continued that such accesses are usually used for snow
storage in the winter. Discussion ensued on fire access options. Mr. Winn inquired about the
stairway and kitchenette. Mr. Morley stated it is for the on-site manager's residence. Mr.
Springer stated he'd like to leave the plan as shown if"knox boxes" are permissible. Mr. Winn
was open to the idea of "knox boxes" Discussion followed on security, aisle lengths, and
turnarounds. Mr. Springer suggested a cross access drive through the buildings. Fire and
Engineering Departments would like the turn-radius templates for trucks shown on the plan.
Discussion ensued on water/sewer services, permitted length of dead end water mains, and fire
protection devices. The water main should be located in the same easement as the sewer main.
Water should also be looped through the property to the east. Discussion followed on the
existing non-approved sewer on the property. Mr. Forbes stated the reason that the sewer
hasn't been approved by the City is that it is near a superfund site. He anticipates that it will
be fully utilized sometime in the future.
Mr. Bukvich that stated the applicant will need input from MDOT.
Mr. Sicz noted the need for waivers for Rouse and signalization at Griffin.
Planner Patterson inquired if the applicant is going to show the flood plain. Mr. Brawner stated
that the floodway needs to be shown for the bridge, and the plan needs further detail for the rest
of the stream.
Mr. Woodward noted that there has to be a sewer for each building that has occupancy and the
City would not be in favor of two utility creek crossings at the same point. He also noted
information deficiencies on the plans. Mr. Brawner suggested the applicant look into certifying
the unapproved sewer. Mr. Woodward added that the applicant has to show water and sewer
service to the buildings and where the water main is in relation to the easements. Discussion
followed on the ownership of the unapproved sewer and the legal existence of easements. Mr.
Woodward stated that the water main has to be installed underground, not on the bridge.
Discussion followed on looping the water mains, and length of water mains without looping.
Mr. Sicz suggested the applicant work with Mark at the sanitation department to work out the
dumpster requirements.
Mr. Mabee noted that the areas of the buildings that are used for offices need foundations below
the frost line. Mr. Winn noted that if the structure were sprinklered, that would mitigate many
of his and Mr. Mabee's concerns. Discussion ensued on which buildings will be occupied.
Planner Patterson noted the need for security lighting and fencing details.
Chairperson Skelton noted that written comments are not needed next week as the Committee
will see this project two more times.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, JANUARY 30 , 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; John Paysek, Project
Engineer; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer; Phill Forbes, Public Service Director; Larry
Woodward, Water/Sewer; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Roger Sim, Streets/Sanitation;
Richard Mabee, Building Official; Chuck Winn, Fire Department
STAFF PRESENT: Christopher Williams, Project Planner; Debbie Arkell, Assistant
Planning Director; Dean Patterson, Associate Planner/Urban Design; Chris Saunders,
Assistant Planner; Carol Schott, Recording Secretary
VISITORS PRESENT: Steve Coffey, Keith Belden, Bruce Foley, Kevin White, Rob
Bukvich, Tim Horton, Scott Bell,Joan Rudberg,Lowell Springer,Doug Morley, Clint Litle
C. INITIAL WEEK REVIEW
1. Magic Diamond CUP #Z-9603 - (Patterson)
1615 West Main
- A Conditional Use Permit Application to allow the leasing of a space in
the Buttrey Shopping Center to develop a 4200 square foot casino to serve
alcoholic beverages.
Associate Planner Dean Patterson presented the project. He noted the applicant is converting
an existing use into a casino. The area is zoned B-2. No exterior changes are proposed except
for signage. The applicant is proposing parking lot striping to increase the delineated parking
spaces to meet requirements.
Chairperson Skelton noted that the parking spaces have to be defined on the site plan. Mr.
Woodward inquired if there will be food service. Mr. Hixson asked if alcohol is being served
at this new business. If so, then the business will be required to serve food and will need grease
traps and a back flow preventer.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, JANUARY 30 , 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Dave Skelton,Senior Planner, Chairperson; John Paysek,Project
Engineer; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer; Phill Forbes, Public Service Director; Larry
Woodward, Water/Sewer; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Roger Sicz, Streets/Sanitation;
Richard Mabee, Building Official; Chuck Winn, Fire Department
STAFF PRESENT: Christopher Williams, Project Planner; Debbie Arkell, Assistant
Planning Director; Dean Patterson, Associate Planner/Urban Design; Chris Saunders,
Assistant Planner; Carol Schott, Recording Secretary
VISITORS PRESENT: Steve Coffey, Keith Belden, Bruce Foley, Kevin White, Rob
Bukvich, Tim Horton, Scott Bell, Joan Rudberg,Lowell Springer,Doug Morley, Clint Litle
C. INITIAL WEEK REVIEW
2. Hampton Inn MaSP #Z-95133 - (Arkell)
75 Baxter Lane
- A Major Site Plan Application to allow the construction of a 69 unit
motel.
Assistant Planning Director Debbie Arkell presented the project. Mr. Bell reviewed the traffic
study he'd completed. He noted that left hand turning movements from Baxter to 7th were the
main problems. Planner Arkell led a discussion on water and sewer hook ups, the extension of
which streets is proposed in the Master Plan, and how to redirect traffic to ease the problem Mr.
Bell analyzed.
Chairperson Skelton inquired if there was a stream running through the property. Planner Arkell
affirmed. Mr. Woodward stated that sewer and water will have to be looped. He continued that
a lift station is not satisfactory as a lift station and motel are not compatible. Discussion ensued
on sewer capacity and how to get the sewer main put through to 19th. Mr. Bukvich stated that
the Oak Street water main will be put in this year. Discussion on what conditions are needed
to ensure adequate water/sewer. Mr. Brawner stated that as a minimum the applicant will have
to demonstrate that adequate sewer capacity and fire flows are available.
Mr. Woodward noted that if the whole site were moved towards Oak Street, then the access
problem would be eliminated. Discussion ensued on infrastructure requirements in the future
and access to the future stubs.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, JANUARY 30 , 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; John Paysek,Project
Engineer; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer; Phill Forbes, Public Service Director; Larry
Woodward, Water/Sewer; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Roger Sicz, Streets/Sanitation;
Richard Mabee, Building Official; Chuck Winn, Fire Department
STAFF PRESENT: Christopher Williams, Project Planner; Debbie Arkell, Assistant
Planning Director; Dean Patterson, Associate Planner/Urban Design; Chris Saunders,
Assistant Planner; Carol Schott, Recording Secretary
VISITORS PRESENT: Steve Coffey, Keith Belden, Bruce Foley, Kevin White, Rob
Bukvich, Tim Horton, Scott Bell,Joan Rudberg, Lowell Springer,Doug Morley, Clint Litle
A. FINAL WEEK REVIEW
Suiter MiSub #P-9602 - (Williams)
End of East Lincoln, East of Rouse
- Second week of a two week review for a Minor Subdivision Application
to divide 1.1 acres into 3 lots.
Project Planner Christopher Williams presented the project. He stated that the main problem
is the turnaround. He continued that his one condition is an easement of 10' at the edge of the
back yards of each lot for utilities access. Mr. Paysek discussed the conditions of the
Engineering Department (on file at the Planning Office). In response to the condition that
requires no parking signage, Mr. Litle stated that he intended to post no parking signs. Mr.
Paysek continued that sewer, sanitation, street equipment meed the cul-de-sac turnaround. Mr.
Winn stated that if the applicant enforced the no parking, then he would support the signage.
Chairperson Skelton inquired about the street width. Discussion followed. Planner Arkell stated
that since this is a minor subdivision, the Public Service Director would make the final decision.
Further discussion ensued on Mr. Paysek's conditions. Mr. Brawner suggested that the
neighbors to the south would grant a temporary easement for a gravel turnaround. Mr. White
stated that he has spoken with the neighbor, he wasn't in favor of an easement. Mr. Sicz stated
that he has no problem with a hammerhead, as long as the no parking is enforced. Chairperson
Skelton stated that normally a turnaround cul-de-sac would be required. He continued that the
City doesn't want to get into a situation on enforcement-calling the police and towing of vehicles
in the no parking zone. Mr. Brawner stated that the applicant could have an temporary eccentric
cul-de-sac. Usually 100' is required for a turnaround, but the eccentric would require 70'
continued Mr. Brawner. Chairperson Skelton summarized the preceding discussion.
Mr. White doesn't understand the need for a 100' cul-de-sac. He continued that in his former
city of residence, the garbage trucks didn't pick up the trash one day because there were vehicles
parked in front of the enclosure. The next and succeeding weeks, the vehicles weren't there on
garbage collection day. Mr. Litle explained that he had looked at the 70' cul-de-sac early in this
project, but rejected it. He has the drawing at the office.
Mr. Brawner suggested that the cul-de-sac line up with Lincoln, curb and gutter north side, and
pave the north part of the street, then, when the property to the south is developed, the rest of
the street would be required to be completed. Mr. Sicz was concerned that the right-of-way was
wide enough to allow the plowing and storage of snow, as the city plows the full width of the
asphalt. Discussion on the above continued.
Mr. Paysek continued with a discussion of his conditions. Mr. Woodward briefly reviewed his
department's conditions, the most important of which is that the existing house must be hooked
up to city services before the final site plan will be approved. Planner Arkell clarified several
conditions. Mr. Brawner stated that there is one more serious issue -- the Rouse Street sewer
is at capacity with no reserve capacity remaining. He continued that the City recognizes that
there needs to be a capital improvements district to remedy the problem. He also noted that the
residents in this area do not want further development south of Main Street on the Rouse sewer.
Chairperson Skelton reminded the Committee Members to have their revised comments to Derek
by week's end as he has to have his recommendations to the Public Service Director by February
7th.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, JANUARY 30 , 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; John Paysek,Project
Engineer; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer; Phill Forbes, Public Service Director; Larry
Woodward, Water/Sewer; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Roger Sicz, Streets/Sanitation;
Richard Mabee, Building Official; Chuck Winn, Fire Department
STAFF PRESENT: Christopher Williams, Project Planner; Debbie Arkell, Assistant
Planning Director; Dean Patterson, Associate Planner/Urban Design; Chris Saunders,
Assistant Planner; Carol Schott, Recording Secretary
VISITORS PRESENT: Steve Coffey, Keith Belden, Bruce Foley, Kevin White, Rob
Bukvich, Tim Horton, Scott Bell, Joan Rudberg,Lowell Springer,Doug Morley, Clint Litle
B. SECOND WEEK REVIEW
1. Bridger Creek 2 & 3 MaSub #Z- - (Skelton)
North of Bridger Creek and South of the City of Bozeman Landfill, on both sides
of McEhattan Road
- A Major Subdivision Application to allow 47 single family lots and 1
condominium lot in Phase 2, and 44 single family lots in Phase 3, for a total
of 92 lots.
Senior Planner Dave Skelton presented the project. He noted that Mr. Gianfrancisco had
indicated that the Story Mill bridge over Bridger Creek needs widening. He continued that Staff
is recommending that McIlhattan be paved to 28', with all other roads to have a dedicated 60'
width.
Mr. Belden stated that McIlhattan Road will be moved slightly to the east. He continued that
the applicant will be requesting a waiver for a secondary access until the third phase is
developed.
Mr. Winn and Mr. Sicz had no concerns. Planner Skelton stated that no emergency access is
being required by the 14th hole of the golf course. He continued that most of the suggestions
from the informal review have been met. The seven lots in phase 3 that face onto Story Mill
Road will be required to have a paved road.
Mr. Woodward inquired about access to the manholes. Mr. Belden stated that the City will have
access. He continued by summarizing the improvements in water capacity. Mr. Paysek
inquired about the length of the main from the first phase through the second phase. Mr. Belden
stated that it is between 1700' and 2000'. Mr. Brawner inquired about the distance from the
hook up in phase 2 through phase 3. Mr. Belden indicated it was almost a mile. Discussion
ensued on the future cutting of McIlhattan for sewer and water service.
Mr. Sicz stated that the way the street is shown, drifting will occur on the turn.
Planner Skelton continued reviewing the informal review suggestions. Mr. Belden stated that
phase 3 would not be developed until '98 or '99. He pointed out where the monitoring wells
are currently located on the property. Planner Skelton stated that the monitoring well in lot 32
may have to be eliminated. Mr. Forbes indicated that it is not up to DRC to abandon the well,
the State needs to do that upon request. Discussion followed on the monitoring wells, all
weather surface on the new streets, and looping the water system. Planner Skelton inquired if
waivers had been obtained from Montana Power and U.S. West. Mr. Woodward stated that
there's not enough room in the front lot utility easements. Discussion followed on sewer boxes
and utility easements. Mr. Brawner stated that Code requires the utility easements to be in the
back of the lots. Planner Skelton noted he had informed the applicant he would need a waiver
to place the easement in the front of the lots.
Planner Skelton asked Mr. Belden to summarize his plan for buffering the subdivision from the
landfill. Mr. Belden's summary included a 30' strip along the new cell site, 100' along the old
cell, and a 30' trails easement. He noted that the landfill area cannot be seen from the home
sites. Mr. Sicz stated that when the landfill is nearing capacity, vehicles will be seen from the
development. Discussion ensued on the view from the subdivision.
Planner Skelton noted that the applicant has worked out a trails system with the approval of the
Parks department and dedicated land for a park. He continued that the trails system can be part
of the sidewalk in Phase 2. Mr. Easton stated that trails and golf are to recreations that are not
compatible. He proposes a give and take option, in the winter the trails can be used, in the
summer the golf course can be used. He continued that he has a problem with the trail as it has
nowhere to go or come from. Planner Skelton explained that the trail system is to use the old
railroad spur, with this property to provide the connector. He suggested the applicant visit with
the Parks Board to work out the details. He concluded that this Committee will continue the
discussion next week.