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HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-23-1996 DRC DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY, JANUARY 23 , 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. MEMBERS PRESENT: Phill Forbes, Public Service; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer; Karen Finke, Project Engineer; John Paysek, Project Engineer; Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; Larry Woodward, Water Dept.; Richard Mabee, Building Official; Chuck Winn, Fire Dept.; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Roger Sicz, Streets/Sanitation STAFF PRESENT: Christopher Williams, Project Planner; Debbie Arkell, Assistant Planning Director; Dean Patterson, Associate Planner; Carol Schott, Recording Secretary VISITORS PRESENT: Larry Noonan, Mike ????, Clint Litle, Vanessa Germeroth, Joan Rudberg, Jeff Downhour A. FINAL WEEK REVIEW 1. A.W.A.R.E. CUP #Z-95155 - (Williams) 1707 South Church - A Conditional Use Permit Application to allow an existing home to be used as a four person intensive therapeutic youth group home the same as is currently operated at 1808 South Rouse. Project Planner Christopher Williams reviewed the project. He asked Mr. Hixson if the driveway has to be paved according to code. Mr. Hixson stated that it is a requirement. Chairperson Skelton stated that the applicant would need a variance to retain the gravel the driveway. Mr. Mabee stated the Building Departments concerns: (1) suggested a condition for a minimum egress from the bedrooms and (2) smoke detectors --if checked regularly and batteries changed regularly, they should be adequate. Mr. Hixson reported Engineering's concerns: (1) the parking area is hard to visualize, (2) drainage area is needed in the parking lot, and (3) contact county sanitarian to have sanitary system checked for adequacy. Chairperson Skelton asked if there were any concerns about this area someday becoming annexed to the city. Mr. Forbes stated that it would be appropriate to have a waiver for street improvements as a conditional of approval. Chairperson Skelton explained the waiver to Mr. Noonan. Planner Williams stated Staff's conditions (on file at the Planning Office). Chairperson Skelton suggested setting a time limit for paving with a financial guarantee added. Discussion ensued on the conditions. Mr. Noonan stated that the biggest questions are the paving and the windows. Chairperson Skelton explained the improvements agreements with a financial guarantee. Mr. Winn moved, Mr. Sicz seconded, recommending conditional approval as per conditions made by DRC. Carried unanimously. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY, JANUARY 23 , 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. MEMBERS PRESENT: Phill Forbes, Public Service; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer; Karen Finke, Project Engineer; John Paysek, Project Engineer; Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; Larry Woodward, Water Dept.; Richard Mabee, Building Official; Chuck Winn, Fire Dept.; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Roger Sicz, Streets/Sanitation STAFF PRESENT: Christopher Williams, Project Planner; Debbie Arkell, Assistant Planning Director; Dean Patterson, Associate Planner; Carol Schott,Recording Secretary VISITORS PRESENT: Larry Noonan, Mike ????, Clint Litle, Vanessa Germeroth, Joan Rudberg, Jeff Downhour A. FINAL WEEK REVIEW 2. Cowdrey Apartments #Z-95158 - (Arkell) 504 South 22nd Avenue - A Conditional Use Permit Application to allow a 24 unit final phase to a P.U.D. With this application the total number of dwelling units will be 56. Assistant Planning Director Arkell reviewed the project. Staff's suggested conditions include the Final Site Plan will show parking, handicapped parking, and sidewalks. Luminaries are not to be visible, trash enclosures will be adequate. Ms. Finke stated that the storm water plan shows two ponds, but only one set of calculations. She needs more information. Mr. Mabee stated there is a potential for the building to need sprinklering. The rest of Building's concerns will be referred to in the building permit review. Mr. Winn stated he had no concerns with this project. Mr. Sicz stated that Koch and 19th will eventually need a signal light, but it was agreed that a waiver of right-to-protest is not yet warranted. Mr. Forbes moved, Mr. Winn seconded, for conditional approval as per conditions outlined by DRC. Motion carried unanimously. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY, JANUARY 23 , 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. MEMBERS PRESENT: Phill Forbes, Public Service; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer; Karen Finkel Project Engineer; John Paysek, Project Engineer; Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; Larry Woodward, Water Dept.; Richard Mabee, Building Official; Chuck Winn, Fire Dept.; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Roger Sicz, Streets/Sanitation STAFF PRESENT: Christopher Williams, Project Planner; Debbie Arkell, Assistant Planning Director; Dean Patterson, Associate Planner; Carol Schott, Recording Secretary VISITORS PRESENT: Larry Noonan, Mike ????, Clint Litle, Vanessa Germeroth, Joan Rudberg, Jeff Downhour A. FINAL WEEK REVIEW 3. Rocky Mountain Roasting MiSP/DEV #Z-95142 - (Patterson) 7th and Main A Minor Site Plan Application to allow the construction of a 3200 square foot bakery/coffee shop with 400 square feet of support office space and associated parking. Planner Dean Patterson reviewed the project. Staff s conditions include -- the applicant must supply written documentation from MDOT for access approval and for street cuts and from Montana Power and MDOT on the removal of the power poles, a snow storage area and adequate parking must be shown on the Final Site Plan. A Master Sign Plan needs to be included with the Final Site Plan. Discussion ensued on the MDOT ingress/egress. Mr. Downhour stated that Mr. Johnson of MDOT in Helena designed the accesses. He continued that he needs to change the first three parking spaces to diagonal parking to allow better stacking due to MDOT's design. Discussion continued on the MDOT plan. Mr. Paysek presented the conditions from the Engineering Department (on file at the Planning Office) with corrections to #2, #3, #lt, and #17. All costs related to power pole removal, meters, and related items are to be done at the expense of the developer. Mr. Woodward discussed a water line coming into the seating area of the coffeeshop and suggested it come into one of the storage rooms. Discussion ensued on water lines, a riser for fire safety, meters, and fire apparatus. Chairperson Skelton questioned if there was a need for new easements, discussion indicated they were not. Mr. Sicz recommended some sort of traffic control in the alley. He continued that the garbage enclosure needs to be coordinated with the garbage hauler. Mr. Brawner stated that the alley has to be 24' wide, so the applicant will need to dedicate the additional 4'. Mr. Forbes stated that the stop sign in the alley beside the Dollar Store should be a condition. Mr. Brawner questioned if there is a real need for the stop sign or just a pedestrian crossing sign. Chairperson Skelton noted the later was needed. Mr. Forbes stated that appropriate signage, per MUTCD could be the condition. Mr. Sicz concurred. He continued that his department could paint a crossing there. Planner Patterson requested each Committee member to write conditions and give to him to compile. He will then send the compilation to each one for verification and to be sure none of the conditions conflicts with the others. Discussion ensued on the alley width. Mr. Forbes requested the compilation to see how all the conditions fit together. Mr. Winn moved, Mr. Hixson seconded, a recommendation of conditional approval of the project with modifications to staff s conditions. The Committee applauds the work of Mr. Delaney on this project. The motion carried unanimously by voice vote. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY, JANUARY 23 , 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. MEMBERS PRESENT: Phill Forbes, Public Service; Rick Hinson, Project Engineer; Karen Finke, Project Engineer; John Paysek, Project Engineer; Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; Larry Woodward, Water Dept.; Richard Mabee, Building Official; Chuck Winn, Fire Dept.; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Roger Sicz, Streets/Sanitation STAFF PRESENT: Christopher Williams, Project Planner; Debbie Arkell, Assistant Planning Director; Dean Patterson, Associate Planner; Carol Schott, Recording Secretary VISITORS PRESENT: Larry Noonan, Mike ????, Clint Litle, Vanessa Germeroth, Joan Rudberg, Jeff Downhour A. FINAL WEEK REVIEW 4. Germeroth/Ferguson MPA #P-9550 - (Patterson) 5391 & 5393 Gooch Hill & 5495 Huffine Lane - A Master Plan Amendment Application to change the designation of approximately 17.08 acres to Business Park/Industrial. 5. Germeroth/Ferguson ZMA #Z-95151 - (Patterson) 5391 & 5393 Gooch Hill & 8474 Huffine Lane - A Zone Map Amendment Application to change the zoning from "AS" (Agricultural Suburban) to "M-1" (Light Industrial)of approximately 17.08 acres. Planner Dean Patterson reviewed the two projects. Staff has a concern, the DRC concurred, that M-1 may not be an appropriate zoning for this parcel. Staff recommends BP or R-3 as more appropriate. Staff also has concerns about accidents at that intersection. Chairperson Skelton explained Planning's position on the BP zoning rather than M-1. Discussion ensued. Planner Patterson stated that there are several undeveloped office, light- commercial-use lots in the area and there isn't a need for any more. He also noted that commercial uses are allowed in residential areas at arterial intersections. Chairperson Skelton stated that no formal recommendation is needed on this item. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY, JANUARY 23 , 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. MEMBERS PRESENT: Phill Forbes, Public Service; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer; Karen Finke, Project Engineer; John Paysek, Project Engineer; Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; Larry Woodward,Water Dept.; Richard Mabee,Building Official; Chuck Winn, Fire Dept.; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Roger Sicz, Streets/Sanitation STAFF PRESENT: Christopher Williams, Intern Planner; Debbie Arkell, Assistant Planning Director; Dean Patterson, Associate Planner; Carol Schott, Recording Secretary VISITORS PRESENT: Larry Noonan, Mike ????, Clint Litle, Vanessa Germeroth, Joan Rudberg, Jeff Downhour B. INITIAL WEEK REVIEW 1. Osterman MaSP #Z-95156 - (Patterson) 1800 N. Rouse - A Major Site Plan Application to allow the construction of a mini-storage warehouse facility. Planner Dean Patterson presented the project. There will be 600-700 storage units. Staff concerns include: plan has to be labelled, dimensioned, and show snow storage areas; is security lighting and fencing proposed; is the dumpster large enough for the number of storage unit; landscaping is not adequate. Planner Paterson is suggesting that the applicant earn required landscaping points by planting vegetation within the stream corridor. Chairperson Skelton stated the Bozeman Parks Advisory Board would have information about any proposed trail along Bozeman Creek. Mr. Sicz noted that ice jamming could impact this area. Planner Patterson described his on-site observations. Mr. Brawner stated that the flood plain has to be shown on the site plan. Mr. Sicz stated there was a major flood in that area two years ago. Mr. Winn noted the lack of fire protection details and that the design of the buildings will determine the fire departments reaction to the application. Mr. Woodward stated that the infrastructure shown is very poor. Chairperson Skelton stated that the applicant needs to submit a complete site plan by next week or the process will be delayed. Mr. Mabee noted that due to the proximity to property lines, fire walls will be required; the site plan should show the detail on the walls. Planner Patterson stated that Planning Director Epple has a concern with a change in use after the building is permitted. There's a potential for over a dozen office, auto repair, and/or light manufacturing businesses. If the use is changed, there are potential parking and fire access problems. Options could be to limit uses with a deed restriction or require additional parking. Mr. Mabee noted if the uses include offices or other business, the foundation will be require to have frost walls or monolithic walls. Mr. Woodward stated that the sewer trunk that goes through the area has never been approved by the city. The Committee recommended continuing this project's initial review until next week due to an incomplete submittal. The new site plans will be required to be in our office by Monday of next week. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY, JANUARY 23 , 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. MEMBERS PRESENT: Phill Forbes, Public Service; Rick Hixson, Project Engineer; Karen Finke, Project Engineer; John Paysek, Project Engineer; Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; Larry Woodward,Water Dept.; Richard Mabee,Building Official; Chuck Winn, Fire Dept.; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Roger Sicz, Streets/Sanitation STAFF PRESENT: Christopher Williams, Project Planner; Debbie Arkell, Assistant Planning Director; Dean Patterson, Associate Planner; Carol Schott,Recording Secretary VISITORS PRESENT: Larry Noonan, Mike ????, Clint Litle, Vanessa Germeroth, Joan Rudberg, Jeff Downhour B. INITIAL WEEK REVIEW 2. Bridger Creek 2 & 3 MaSub #Z- - (Skelton) North of Bridger Creek and South of the City of Bozeman Landfill, on both sides of McIlhattan Road A Major Subdivision Application to allow 47 single family lots and 1 condominium lot in Phase 2, and 44 single family lots in Phase 3, for a total of 92 lots. Senior Planner Dave Skelton presented the project. There are some minor changes since the last Phase. The problem arises when conditions from various departments conflict with one another. Mr. Woodward asked about the existing and proposed water lines. The applicant is proposing two creek crossings verbally, yet none are shown on the plan. Planner Skelton stated that he had informed the applicant that the water had to be looped in Phase II. They verbally stated that they will loop in Phase III. Mr. Sicz questioned if there are guidelines as to how close houses can be built to a landfill. Mr. Forbes stated that he knew of none. Mr. Sicz sees problems for homeowners and the City of Bozeman about noise, smell, dust, and flying debris. Mr. Brawner stated in Cupola, the applicant was required to plant lots of trees. Mr. Sicz stated that a buffer doesn't do much good on the City's side of the property line. Maybe if the buffer were 50' instead of 30', it would help. Discussion ensued on the "point of compliance". Mr. Brawner inquired if any of the above suggestions would buffer the problems. He suggested a landfill buffer easement to allow monitoring wells, etc. Mr. Sicz stated that those can't be done in 30'. The buffer needs to be wider. Mr. Woodward stated that the sewer is okay. Mr. Sicz stated that the leeching pond needs to drain immediately into the sewer. Planner Skelton noted the applicant will need a secondary access unless he asks for a variance. Mr. Sicz noted there isn't a 20 wide drainage easement going though the middle of the project. Discussion continued on the need for a total picture. The site plans and book are incomplete. Discussion ensued about the needed information on the plan. There may be a need to move one of the test wells. Planner Skelton stated that this needs to be a 4 week review. The Committee concurred. Planner Skelton stated that this was the first of a four week review. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY, JANUARY 23 , 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. MEMBERS PRESENT: Phill Forbes, Public Service; Rick Hinson, Project Engineer; Karen Finke, Project Engineer; John Paysek, Project Engineer; Dave Skelton, Senior Planner, Chairperson; Larry Woodward, Water Dept.; Richard Mabee,Building Official; Chuck Winn, Fire Dept.; Craig Brawner, City Engineer; Roger Sicz, Streets/Sanitation STAFF PRESENT: Christopher Williams, Project Planner; Debbie Arkell, Assistant Planning Director; Dean Patterson, Associate Planner; Carol Schott, Recording Secretary VISITORS PRESENT: Larry Noonan, Mike ????, Clint Litle, Vanessa Germeroth, Joan Rudberg, Jeff Downhour B. INITIAL WEEK REVIEW 3. Suiter MiSub #P-9602 - (Williams) End of East Lincoln, East of Rouse - First week of a two week review for a Minor Subdivision Application to divide 1.1 acres into 3 lots. Project Planner Christopher Williams presented the project. Assistant Planner Debbie Arkell was on hand to assist. Planner Williams stated one problem may be with the turnaround area. Discussion continued on water lines and hydrants. Mr. Woodward asked about existing and proposed water lines, the plan doesn't differentiate between them. Mr. Litle explained them. Discussion ensued on right-of-way, sidewalks, curb and gutter, sewer, pavement cut for sewer on Rouse. Mr. Forbes stated the possibility of extending Lincoln to Church needs to be left open. The turnaround will have to be signed so that no parking is allowed there. Mr. Winn stated that from the fire departments perspective, the plan is sound. He questioned if there were any alternatives for parking. Mr. Forbes suggested that the houses or the turnaround be slid to allow parking. Mr. Litle stated the owner wants the houses where they are designed. Mr. Forbes noted that a second driveway could be provided for the second house. Discussion ensued on that idea. Mr. Brawner stated the applicant may need an easement for the turnaround. Mr. Litle asked if the options were to slide the turnaround or put in a cul-de-sac. The Committee concurred. Mr. Paysek stated there would be a problem with the length of the water service line. Mr. Skelton suggested that this application is just the beginning and will set the precedent. Mr. Brawner noted there is already a capacity problem on the Rouse sewer. Planner Skelton reminded everyone that comments are due next Tuesday. C. DISCUSSION ITEM 1. Amendments to Zone Code that will improve review of developments by DRC. Discussion was held. Chairperson Skelton adjourned the meeting.