HomeMy WebLinkAbout07-02-1996 DRC DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, DULY 2, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Larry Woodward, Dave Skelton, Phill Forbes, Neil Poulsen,
Chuck Winn, Craig Brawner
STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson, Chris Saunders, Debbie Arkell, Rob Bukvich, Rick
Hixson, John Paysek, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: Gerry Gaston, Kip Halvorsen, Mike Delaney, Rob Dougherty
The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Dave Skelton.
A. FINAL WEEK REVIEWS
1. Speedy Lube MiSP/COA #Z-9656 - (Patterson)
438 North 7th Avenue
- A Minor Site Plan application with a Certificate of Appropriateness to
allow the use of an existing third bay for auto lubrication and oil change
services, expand the customer waiting area, and modify the front elevation of
the building.
Planner Dean Patterson reviewed the project and the conditions discussed last week.
(Complete text of conditions on file at the Planning Office.) Planner Patterson noted that (1)
the sign is to be accurately sized, and scale dimensions of the building and all signage are to
be included on the Final Site Plan submittal. The awning may not be illuminated unless
approved by the Planning Office. (2) The mobile oil and lube service vehicle shall be
inspected and approved by the Fire Department and parked either in a screened location or in
the rear of the building. (3) The applicant is to limit his business to oil and lubrication
services or apply for a second principle use. (4) The combination floor plan/site plan shall
show adequate detail of various building elements needed to understand the layout of the
building and the activity taking place in the building.
Mr. Paysek noted that an existing approach is being closed; he recommended it be
abandoned and a regular sidewalk be installed. Planner Patterson noted that the approach
and sidewalk were approved in a previous Minor Site Plan. He observed that nothing drains
into the sewer. He also noted that the alley is paved to the southerly property line.
Mr. Winn moved, Mr. Paysek seconded, that the application be conditionally approved as
per the conditions by the Planning Office adding "for the awning" after "A building permit
and a sign permit", and adding "or second principal use" after "If a different business
activity". Motion carried unanimously by voice vote.
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, DULY 2, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Larry Woodward, Dave Skelton, Phill Forbes, Neil Poulsen,
Chuck Winn, Craig Brawner
STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson, Chris Saunders, Debbie Arkell, Rob Bukvich, Rick
Hixson, John Paysek, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: Gerry Gaston, Kip Halvorsen, Mike Delaney, Rob Dougherty
A. FINAL WEEK REVIEWS
2. Bridger Feeds MiSP/COA #Z-9654 - (Saunders)
501 Evergreen Drive
- A Minor Site Plan application to construct a 7,428 square foot footprint
retail and storage building with a 864 square foot upper level apartment and a
separate 3,400 square foot warehouse.
Planner Chris Saunders reviewed the project and the concerns from last week. Kip
Halvorsen joined the DRC.
Mr. Paysek presented his conditions (complete text on file in the Planning Office), which are
all boilerplate. He noted that the plans do need adequate dimensions. He will also need
documentation that any easements have been granted or given. He asked how large the
project is proposed to be. Mr. Halvorsen answered that it is 10,828 square feet.
Mr. Forbes requested a stop sign on the northwest corner at their approach to Gilkerson
Drive
Mr. Poulsen noted that there are building code issues that will be checked at permitting time.
Mr. Winn stated that the building must meet code. Planner Saunders asked if there was
water capacity for fire line. Mr. Winn noted that there needs to be enough to meet
requirements for sprinklering. Mr. Poulsen noted that both buildings may have to be
sprinklered. Planner Saunders asked if the 2" line is adequate. Mr. Paysek noted that a
design profile will be needed.
Mr. Woodward stated that his conditions are standard except for #7 (complete text of his
conditions on file in the Planning Office). Condition #7 stated that the plans and
specifications for any fire service line have to be prepared in accordance with the City's Fire
Service Line Policy by a professional engineer and submitted to the City Engineer for review
and approval prior to initiation of construction of the fire service or fire protection.
Chairperson Skelton noted that a decision is to be made today.
Mr. Winn moved, Mr. Paysek seconded, that the DRC conditionally approve the application
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with the exclusion of Mr. Paysek's condition #14. Motion carried unanimously by voice
vote.
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, DULY 2, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Larry Woodward, Dave Skelton, Phill Forbes, Neil Poulsen,
Chuck Winn, Craig Brawner
STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson, Chris Saunders, Debbie Arkell, Rob Bukvich, Rick
Hixson, John Paysek, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: Gerry Gaston, Kip Halvorsen, Mike Delaney, Rob Dougherty
A. FINAL WEEK REVIEWS
3. Bozeman Athletic Club West Annexation A-9603 - (Saunders)
8601 Huffine Lane
- An Application for Annexation of 135+ acres.
Planner Chris Saunders asked the Committee to add the Bozeman Athletic Club West
Annexation to the agenda. The request was granted.
Planner Saunders reviewed the project. Mr. Delaney joined DRC. Planner Saunders noted
that the Police Department has concerns with patrolling and providing security protection for
a project this distance from Bozeman.
Planner Saunders reviewed the concerns of the last meeting. (1) Impact fees for fire and
streets would be assessed at the time of annexation. (2) Annexation maps will have to be
submitted. (3) The Master Plan shows that the sewer service boundary is on the creek. The
project is west of the creek, therefore, the applicant will be responsible for the installation of
the sewer trunk and water service lines.
Mr. Hixson presented his conditions. (Complete text on file in the Planning Office.) He
noted that (1) The applicant shall dedicate to the City an easement for the right-of-way for
West Babcock. (2) The applicant shall dedicate to the City an easement for the right-of-way
for Ferguson Avenue. (3) The applicant shall provide and file with the County Clerk and
Recorder's Office executed waivers of right to protest creation of SID's for the construction
of street improvements to West Babcock Street and Ferguson Avenue, including paving, curb
and gutter, sidewalks, and storm drainage facilities. Also funding for the applicant's share of
signalizing the intersection of Ferguson Avenue and U.S. 191 shall be provided. (4) If the
property is annexed, the applicant shall provide water service to any future development on
the annexed property by means of fully looped water mains from the City's distribution
system. (5) The sewer mains provided must conform with the goals of the City's Draft
Wastewater Facilities master planning documents and with the principles of sound
engineering practices. He noted that the proposed sewer mains do not meet the goals of the
City's Draft Wastewater Facilities Plan. The project should be served by a sewer trunk
located farther to the west than shown. (6) Water rights, or cash in lieu thereof, in an
amount sufficient to supply the site with City water (as calculated by the Director of Public
Service) shall be provided by the applicant prior to any development of the site.
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Mr. Woodward noted he will review the infrastructure when it is designed.
Mr. Delaney commented on the memorandum from the Police Department stating that all
over the U.S. the police departments are saying that they cannot handle the additional service
to the areas outside the city limits. He noted that security protection is required to be
provided by municipal and county police. In regard to the sewer service boundary, he noted
that he wants the word "draft" emphasized. He has hired Kerin Engineering and Morrison-
Maierle to do the engineering work. He also noted that the draft is subject to change. He
noted, too, that there is adequate capacity for his project to flow into the Valley Unit trunk.
He has been told that if they pay $2000 to HKM to review their plans, the plans will be
approved.
Mr. Delaney noted that the word "draft" appears in paragraph 2 of condition #5. In
paragraph 4, he plans to show the City that the capacity in the sewer trunk is there for future
development in the area. He emphasized that the word "will" in the last sentence should be
changed to "may". He argued that the City has a biased view for the location of the Far
West Trunkline.
Mr. Delaney noted that there aren't any agreed upon easements for the trunk line to Baxter.
It may make sense for the line to be installed there, however, without easements from
property owners who don't want to develop, it would be impossible to install.
Mr. Hixson stated that engineering's judgement should not be seen to be biased as the
conditions are based upon professional judgements of the office and 11KM's engineering
judgement.
Mr. Delaney responded that everybody has biases, even though they have a code of ethics.
The hired engineering firm takes the information from the engineering department and
incorporates that information into their recommendations.
Chairperson Skelton noted that ethics are not to be argued at this forum.
Discussion ensued on the location of the trunk line.
Mr. Delaney noted that the documentation for drainage into the Valley Unit trunk is being
delivered tomorrow. He doesn't want to waste money building a private system, then be
annexed and required to connect to City services. He wants to change "will" to "may". Mr.
Hixson deleted the last line of paragraph 4 of condition #5 from "...1981 Sewer Facility
Plan" to the end of the sentence and placing a period after "Plan".
Mr. Delaney noted that the line along the creek is a flexible line. Discussion ensued on the
locations of the two lines, how the flexibility works, and who loses services in the future if
Delaney's project is allowed to connect to the existing trunk.
Chairperson Skelton noted that Planner Saunders will summarize all of the above concerns
for the City Commission.
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, JULY 29 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Larry Woodward, Dave Skelton, Phill Forbes, Neil Poulsen,
Chuck Winn, Craig Brawner
STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson, Chris Saunders, Debbie Arkell, Rob Bukvich, Rick
Hixson, John Paysek, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: Gerry Gaston, Kip Halvorsen, Mike Delaney, Rob Dougherty
B. SECOND WEEK REVIEWS
1. Adamson MiSub/COA #P-9628 - (Arkell)
424 N. Rouse
- A Minor Subdivision Preliminary Plat Application to allow a 0.7589
acre parcel to be divided into three lots.
Chairperson Skelton reviewed the project. Planner Debbie Arkell noted that access into an
improved street or alley was the main issue last week. Planner Arkell also questioned the
sewer and water being installed in the garage. Mr. Dougherty explained that the bathroom
was included in the drawings approved by the DRB. He continued to explain the changes
from the last submittal. He discussed with Mr. Woodward another configuration which
would save money. He knows there is a utility easement that needs to be enlarged. As far a
paving Perkins Place, he asked why the street and access issues didn't come up in March
when an informal review was conducted. Chairperson Skelton noted that it is a Code
Requirement that must be addressed by the applicant. Planner Arkell noted that the decision
to be made is to what standard, if any, the street needs to be improved.
Mr. Woodward noted that the Committee will review only one set of plans. He has received
two different sets. Mr. Dougherty explained the water and sewer line placement on the
second drawing. Mr. Woodward wants all the "clean-up" information on the site plan to be
reviewed. Mr. Woodward and Mr. Dougherty discussed easements, placement of service
lines, the saving of the orchard, the location of the fire hydrant, and access from North
Rouse Avenue to the new house. Mr. Dougherty noted that there was a gate proposed on the
first submittal to keep the renters from accessing Rouse through the owner's property. He
deleted the gate as no one liked it. Mr. Winn discussed the location of a hydrant on Perkins
Place or on a street on the same side of the creek.
Planner Arkell's explained the conditions on the approved COA.
Discussion on where mail will be collected and traffic traveling through the parking lot to
Perkins Place ensued.
Mr. Winn stated that either the existing hydrants are to be shown on the site plan or where
one will be installed. Discussion ensued on putting a gate between the two lots and the
owner's lot.
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Chairperson Skelton noted that the priority last week was to mitigate traffic concerns. He
noted that there is a stalemate. A decision has to be made next week to recommend
approval, conditional approval, or denial.
Discussion ensued on how property ownership could change, the neighbors may not be
amenable to changes brought about by new ownership, and that a dumpster could be placed
on the easement. There were concerns with water/sewer and fire protection.
Chairperson Skelton asked if discouraging access from Perkins Place to Rouse is the issue.
Mr. Forbes noted that the improved street is also an issue. Planner Arkell asked if the cabin
has access to Perkins Place. Mr. Dougherty noted that it does. Planner Arkell suggested
restricting the lot for a single family unit only.
Mr. Forbes noted that he'd rather have seen this project as a site plan. Mr. Dougherty asked
if the cabin should be connected to the 4-plex. Chairperson Skelton noted that the lot size
has to be met to do that. Mr. Dougherty noted that a SFR would have the least impact on
the area. Mr. Winn discussed fire protection.
Planner Arkell envisioned a parking lot with access from Rouse, with no access from the
parking lot to Perkins Place. She suggested an on-site visit to determine access.
Mr. Woodward noted that this is a State highway, so back fill will be required for the street
cut. If the cabin isn't up to Code, there might have to be a meter pit. Mr. Dougherty noted
that there is a basement under the cabin.
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, JULY 2, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Larry Woodward, Dave Skelton, Phill Forbes, Neil Poulsen,
Chuck Winn, Craig Brawner
STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson, Chris Saunders, Debbie Arkell, Rob Bukvich, Rick
Hixson, John Paysek, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: Gerry Gaston, Kip Halvorsen, Mike Delaney, Rob Dougherty
C. INITIAL WEEK REVIEW
1. Alderson Street Condominium PUD MaSub #P-9631 - (Skelton)
125 East Alderson Street
- A Planned Unit Development Application to subdivide a 2 acre tract for
6 duplex apartment structures creating 12 condominium units. (First of a two
week review; packet information distributed 06/20/96)
Chairperson Skelton presented the project. The project has to go through major subdivision
review to change from duplexes to condos. The services will stay essentially the same. Mr.
Poulsen asked who is in charge of installing services under the private streets. Who inspects
them. Discussion ensued.
Chairperson Skelton noted that this project will come back before the DRC one more time.
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, DULY 2, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Larry Woodward, Dave Skelton, Phill Forbes, Neil Poulsen,
Chuck Winn, Craig Brawner
STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson, Chris Saunders, Debbie Arkell, Rob Bukvich, Rick
Hixson, John Paysek, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: Gerry Gaston, Kip Halvorsen, Mike Delaney, Rob Dougherty
C. INITIAL WEEK REVIEW
2. Ohman MiSP/COA #Z-9658 - (Strahn)
612 South loth Avenue
- A Minor Site Plan Application for the conversion of an existing garage
into a studio apartment.
Chairperson Skelton presented the project. Discussion ensued on parking, dimensions,
existing sewer/water, and the requirement for a one-hour fire wall.
Meeting adjourned.
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