HomeMy WebLinkAbout09-10-1996 DRC DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Neil Poulsen, Rick Hixson, Roger Sicz, Larry Woodward, Chuck
Winn, Phill Forbes, John McNeil, Dave Skelton
STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson, Debbie Arkell, Chris Saunders, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: John Curran, Rich Heck, Joe Kolman, Joan Rudberg, Cecil Horan,
Keith Belden, Al Stiff, Dave Crawford
Chairperson Dave Skelton called the meeting to order.
A. FINAL WEEK REVIEW
1. Ranch & Home MiSP Z-9673 - (Patterson)
2275 North 7th Avenue
- A Minor Site Plan Application to allow parking lot expansion to the
south of the existing facility.
Chairperson Dave Skelton introduced the project, introduced Mr. Dave Crawford, and noted
that a decision will be made on the project today.
Planner Patterson reviewed the project. Discussion ensued on snow removal and storage in
the parking areas. Consensus was it was allowable as shown as long as driveways weren't
obstructed.
Mr. Crawford inquired if anyone had clarified the issue of the sidewalks being included in
the KBMN subdivision. Discussion ensued. Mr. Crawford noted that he had found that the
improvements went with the KBMN subdivision. Chairperson Skelton noted that he would
be in favor of requiring the sidewalks now if this were a commercial or retail sales area,
however, since it is a storage and parking area, the sidewalk probably won't be required.
Discussion ensued on a street standard for Flora Lane and who will develop it. KBMN has
18 months from the filing of the final plat to do the improvements and filed the final plat.
Discussion ensued on the status of the Mandeville Lane improvements. Mr. Sicz expressed
concern about the improvements to Mandeville Lane, the proposed signalization of
Mandeville/Griffin Drive and North 7th Avenue, and the impact of the change in flow of
traffic in that area. Discussion ensued on adjoining properties. Discussion followed on
gating the storage area and giving a key to the fire department. DRC concurred that there is
a short amount of time before Flora Lane is required to be paved.
Planner Patterson noted that a condition will be that the existing chain link fence on the
property line will be required to be moved back to 25' along Flora Lane. Mr. Crawford
noted that the fence has already been moved.
Mr. Hixson presented the comments from the Engineering Department for MR. Paysek. He
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noted the comments are basically boilerplate. Mr. Crawford asked about comment #3 - the
sidewalk requirement and noted that was acceptable if it applies to internal sidewalks to move
people from one area to another and not along Flora Lane.
Mr. Forbes moved, Mr. Winn seconded, that the project be approved as per Planning and
Engineering conditions. Motion carried unanimously by voice vote.
Chairperson Skelton reviewed the appeal process and noted that the intent to appeal would
have to be filed by 5:00 this Friday.
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Neil Poulsen, Rick Hixson, Roger Sicz, Larry Woodward, Chuck
Winn, Phill Forbes, John McNeil, Dave Skelton
STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson, Debbie Arkell, Chris Saunders, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: John Curran, Rich Heck, Joe Kolman, Joan Rudberg, Cecil Horan,
Keith Belden, Al Stiff, Dave Crawford
B. SECOND WEEK REVIEW
1. Bozeman Deaconess Medical Office Building III MaSP - (Arkell)
915 Highland Boulevard
- A Major Site Plan Application to allow the construction of a third
medical office building.
Chairperson Dave Skelton introduced the project. Planner Debbie Arkell introduced Mr.
John Curran and Mr. Rich Heck. She noted that the Code requires the parking lot to be
broken up with landscaping islands, suggested a cross walk be striped across Old Highland
Blvd for pedestrian safety, and noted a correction on the driving isle width of the west
parking lot.
Mr. John McNeil noted the City will install a gravel road this fall or next spring along the
north boundary of the hospital parking lot from Old Highland to Burke Park. Because of the
proposed road, the proposed landscaping will need to be moved out of that area. Discussion
ensued on the location of the road and the landscaping. Mr. Curran asked if the roadway
could be a joint venture so the road could serve both properties. Mr. McNeil concurred that
would be the best solution. Planner Arkell clarified that there would be no setback
requirements for a joint access. Discussion continued on the road, screening, and
landscaping. Mr. Curran asked to meet with Mr. McNeil and Mr. Forbes to discuss the
road issue more fully.
Mr. Winn inquired about the hydrant locations. Mr. Curran explained two possible locations
in the west lot and clarified the existing water main locations. Mr. Winn noted a concern
about the location of hydrants in regard to future phases of the hospital. He suggested
locating one of the hydrants in the south parking lot landscaping island. Mr. Woodward
noted that one fire hydrant isn't shown on the plans. Mr. Heck noted that the hydrant is
being relocated. Discussion ensued on removal of and replacement of hydrants. Mr.
Woodward noted that his department can service all of the existing sewer manholes. He will
require that all new manholes be accessible by his trucks.
Chairperson Skelton noted that a formal recommendation must be made next week to the
Planning Board. Mr. Curran asked what is needed in the sequence narrative that Mr. Forbes
is requiring. Planner Arkell noted that Mr. Forbes was referring to a sequence of events for
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construction of the water and sewer plans and how that installation relates to the building
plans. Mr. Curran noted that a full set of plans and construction sequencing will be
submitted before any plans have to be approved.
Chairperson Skelton asked for written comments from DRC for next week's meeting.
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Neil Poulsen, Rick Hixson, Roger Sicz, Larry Woodward, Chuck
Winn, Phill Forbes, John McNeil, Dave Skelton
STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson, Debbie Arkell, Chris Saunders, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: John Curran, Rich Heck, Joe Kolman, Joan Rudberg, Cecil Horan,
Keith Belden, Al Stiff, Dave Crawford
C. INITIAL WEEK REVIEWS
1. Corcoran/Hinesley ZMA Z-9676 - (Arkell)
South side of Durston Avenue, adjacent to west side of Greenway Subdivision
A Zone Map Amendment to rezone 23.45± from GR, County Zoning
District #1 to R-3 and R-4. (First of two week review.)
Chairperson Dave Skelton introduced the project. Planner Debbie Arkell explained that it is
located on Durston Road and that the application is also an application for annexation.
Planner Arkell noted that the applicant is proposing to make Villard a straighter connection
rather than the meandering diagram DRC saw in the informal review. She noted that the
parks are spread out. Planner Arkell explained the R-3 zoning next to Greenway Subdivision
and R-4 zoning for the rest of the parcel being proposed. Discussion ensued on utilities at
the end of Durston Road.
Mr. Roger Sicz inquired as to the timetable for turn-lane signalization at 19th Avenue and
Durston Road. Discussion ensued on the cost of signalization, who should pay for it, and
congestion existing in that area. Mr. Forbes noted that the City will need waivers for
improvements to Durston Road. There was discussion on the new annexation procedure and
it was noted that this application came in after the new procedure was accepted. She
inquired if a waiver was need for improvements to Babcock. Phill Forbes indicated it would
not be required. She will check on the payback areas for sewer and water installations.
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Neil Poulsen, Rick Hixson, Roger Sicz, Larry Woodward, Chuck
Winn, Phill Forbes, John McNeil, Dave Skelton
STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson, Debbie Arkell, Chris Saunders, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: John Curran, Rich Heck, Joe Kolman, Joan Rudberg, Cecil Horan,
Keith Belden, Al Stiff, Dave Crawford
C. INITIAL WEEK REVIEWS
2. Babcock Meadows MaSub - Amended Phase I & Preliminary Plat II P-9636
Babcock Meadows Subdivision Variance C-9613 - (Saunders)
3100 Block West Babcock Avenue
- A Major Subdivision Application to amend phase I and establish phase
II, and a Zoning Variance Application to create 16 zero lot line townhouse
lots with 5' side yard setbacks in lieu of 8' side yard setbacks.
Planner Chris Saunders presented the project. He noted that the applicant has submitted an
update on the environmental impact statement. He also noted that this development will
increase traffic flow from a level C to a level D. He explained the development proposed
and in progress in the area. He noted that the engineering company is showing an increase
in traffic on Ferguson Road and Huffine Lane. Planner Saunders inquired about the
possibility of this development contributing to the signalization for that intersection.
Discussion ensued on parkland. Planner Saunders reviewed concerns of the Planning Office.
Mr. John McNeil reviewed the lack of the required Master Plan for the park and noted that a
park's maintenance district was to have been developed as a condition of approval for Phase
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Mr. Larry Woodward noted that all plumbing shown is in violation of code, so he will have
a condition for individual stubs for each dwelling. He needs existing and proposed
installations indicated on the final site plan and the lines tested. Mr. Belden inquired if the
City would install and do the testing. MR. Woodward noted that the City doesn't have the
man power to do it. Discussion on installation of infrastructure.
Planner Saunders noted that Staff would not be able to support the requested variance and
explained why. Mr. Belden asked for code sections for any part of the application that Staff
cannot support.
Planner Saunders suggested dropping one lot and making the other lots conforming lots and
put in the infrastructure for townhouses.
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Mr. Sicz suggested that the way to handle the street cut cracks might be to require a 10 year
guarantee that the developer will do all street repairs. Planner Saunders suggested building
duplexes, then no street cuts would be needed.
Mr. Forbes noted that this will mildly affect the paybacks in this area.
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Neil Poulsen, Rick Hixson, Roger Sicz, Larry Woodward, Chuck
Winn, Phill Forbes, John McNeil, Dave Skelton
STAFF PRESENT: Dean Patterson, Debbie Arkell, Chris Saunders, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: John Curran, Rich Heck, Joe Kolman, Joan Rudberg, Cecil Horan,
Keith Belden, Al Stiff, Dave Crawford
D. DISCUSSION ITEM
1. Concurrent Plan Review
Mr. Neil Poulsen introduced the item as a plan put together by himself and others to do
concurrent plan reviews. It would be a service for the public as it would speed up the
review process.
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