HomeMy WebLinkAbout09-17-1996 DRC DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 17, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: John Paysek, Larry Woodward, Neil Poulsen, Rick Hixson, Dave
Skelton, Craig Brawner, Roger Sicz, Chuck Winn, and Phill Forbes
STAFF PRESENT: Debbie Arkell, Chris Saunders, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: John Nordwick, Chuck Hinesley, John Curran, Rich Heck, Joan
Rudberg, Al Stiff, Peg Potter, Keith Belden, Dennis Foreman, Joe Mahar
Chairperson Dave Skelton called the meeting to order.
A. FINAL WEEK REVIEW
1. Bozeman Deaconess Medical Office Building III MaSP - (Arkell, Paysek)
915 Highland Boulevard
- A Major Site Plan Application to allow the construction of a third
medical office building.
Chairperson Dave Skelton introduced the project. John Curran, Rich Heck, and John
Nordwick joined the DRC. Planner Debbie Arkell reviewed the project and noted that Staff
is suggesting that approval be recommended to the Planning Board, which will make the final
decision on October 1. She stated the appeal process. Planner Arkell continued that there
are 5 recommended conditions from Planning Staff (complete Memo on file in the Planning
Office).
Engineer John Paysek noted that most of his conditions are boilerplate (complete Memo on
file in the Planning Office). He noted that condition #2 should have "and private streets and
parking lots (including curb, gutter & sidewalks)" stricken from the first sentence. In the
second paragraph of condition #2, "approved" should be stricken from the sentence and
"submitted for first review" inserted. He indicated that conditions #4, #8, #11, and #15
should be considered carefully.
Fire Marshal Chuck Winn presented a Memo from the Fire Department (on file in the
Planning Office). He noted that "and shall be shown on the final site plan" should be added
after "fire hydrant" in condition #2.
Mr. Curran noted that some changes have been made to the final site plan to meet previous
issues. The hydrant is added, the shared access drive has been added and indicated, water
lines have been brought in on the proper side of the building, the location of private and City
sewer mains, and location of the vacated sewer line indicated on the site plan.
City Engineer Craig Brawner noted that City services are upstream of the indicated manhole.
Mr. Curran indicated that his firm will work with the Engineering Department to meet its
requirements.
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Mr. Brawner clarified Planner Arkell's condition #3, adding "initiation of" between "before"
and "construction" in the last sentence. He also noted that "No building construction work
shall be closer that 15' of the existing sewer/water" should be added to Planner Arkell's
condition #2.
Street Superintendent Roger Sicz presented comments from John McNeil of the Parks'
Department. Mr. McNeil has indicated that a dedicated public easement for the shared road
access will be needed, and he asked that the plantings be on the north side of the easement.
Discussion ensued on the easement requirements.
Public Service Director Phill Forbes noted a change on Planner Arkell's condition #4 - the
fire service line design may be included on the water/sewer plan.
Mr. Paysek inquired about the need for a pedestrian walkway. Planner Arkell indicated that
signs to direct traffic into the parking lots are needed. Mr. Curran noted that sidewalks will
be installed and the new parking lot is for Staff use only.
Chairperson Skelton inquired if the Building Department was going to have any problems
with building permits. Chief Building Official Neil Poulsen noted that he and Mr. Paysek
are coordinating building permit approvals.
Mr. Paysek moved, Mr. Sicz seconded, that a recommendation for conditional approval be
forwarded to the Planning Board. Motion carried unanimously by voice vote.
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 17, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: John Paysek, Larry Woodward, Neil Poulsen, Rick Hixson, Dave
Skelton, Craig Brawner, Roger Sicz, Chuck Winn, and Phill Forbes
STAFF PRESENT: Debbie Arkell, Chris Saunders, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: John Nordwick, Chuck Hinesley, John Curran, Rich Heck, Joan
Rudberg, Al Stiff, Peg Potter, Keith Belden, Dennis Foreman, Joe Mahar
A. FINAL WEEK REVIEW
2. Corcoran/Strowbridge ZMA and Annexation Z-9676 - (Arkell, Hixson)
South side of Durston Road, adjacent to west side of Greenway Subdivision
A Zone Map Amendment to rezone 23.45± from GR, County Zoning
District #1 to R-3 and R-4 in conjunction to Annexation. (Last of two week
review.)
Assistant Planning Director Debbie Arkell presented the project and explained the proposed
zoning. Mr. Chuck Hinesley joined DRC.
Chairperson Skelton complimented the change in design from what was presented at the
informal review. He asked Mr. Hinesley if he would consider a transfer of development
rights in exchange for land in Rose Park, if that option was available. Mr. Hinesley
explained that the one parkland space is to tie into the park that already exists, and the other
one is a buffer from the other properties to the north, but he could consider that at the time
of development, if the City felt that was best for park use.
Street Superintendent Roger Sicz commented that traffic at the intersection of 19th and
Durston Road is congested today, and recommended that the Engineering Department look
into obtaining the monies ($20,000 to $25,000) to install turn arrows from the developer at
the time the property develops. He noted that a waiver for street improvements will also be
required with annexation.
Water/Sewer Superintendent Larry Woodward noted that his departments concerns will be
addressed during plan and spec review.
Planner Arkell noted that this project is consistent with zoning on adjacent properties. She is
in favor of R-4 designation as there is no R-4 left in the City to develop, but expressed some
concern with impacts on the adjoining single family homes to the west. Mr. Woodward
asked if there were apartments or townhouses planned. Discussion ensued on the
water/sewer services needed for each type of housing unit.
Public Service Director Phill Forbes noted that the annexation will require usable water
rights to be transferred to the City or cash-in-lieu paid for water rights. Planner Arkell noted
that paybacks for sewer/water services will be required.
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 17, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: John Paysek, Larry Woodward, Neil Poulsen, Rick Hixson, Dave
Skelton, Craig Brawner, Roger Sicz, Chuck Winn, and Phill Forbes
STAFF PRESENT: Debbie Arkell, Chris Saunders, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: John Nordwick, Chuck Hinesley, John Curran, Rich Heck, Joan
Rudberg, Al Stiff, Peg Potter, Keith Belden, Dennis Foreman, Joe Mahar
B. SECOND WEEK REVIEW
1. Babcock Meadows MaSub - Amended Phase I & Preliminary Plat Phase II
P-9636
Babcock Meadows Subdivision Variance C-9613 - (Saunders, Hixson)
3100 Block West Babcock Avenue
- A Major Subdivision Application to amend phase I and establish phase
II, and a Zoning Variance Application to create 16 zero lot line townhouse
lots with 5' side yard setbacks in lieu of 8' side yard setbacks.
Assistant Planner Chris Saunders presented the project. Keith Belden joined DRC. Planner
Saunders noted that the project is in compliance with zoning. He indicated a concern about
the covenants as they have been changed. Mr. Belden asked for the film and page numbers
for the covenants. Planner Saunders noted that the original covenants may need to be
modified with the City's permission to allow the townhouse lots. The main concern the
change in the land use. He reviewed conditions #1-5 and #13C of the Architectural
Guidelines from the original submittal. Mr. Belden asked for the best way to make the
changes needed. Planner Saunders noted that the changes will be made in a hearing before
the City Commission. Discussion ensued on how to make the changes and what has been
changed from the original covenants. Chairperson Skelton noted that a change in the
covenants may not be necessary if the plat is restricted to single family units.
Chairperson Skelton inquired about improvements to Linear Park. Mr. Sicz noted that Mr.
McNeil hadn't sent comments, but would be submitting comments next week. Mr. Belden
noted that a letter from Planner Skelton states that the maintenance district was never
created, however, a waiver for one was signed. Chairperson Skelton asked that Mr. Sicz
take comments to Mr. McNeil. The letter being referenced was dated August 2, 1995. It
was noted that condition #19 has been met. Mr. Belden suggested reconditioning the plat so
it is more clear what is to be done with the park.
Public Service Director Phill Forbes noted that the dollars and cents from the improvement
district aren't available, thus the City won't maintain the park. Mr. Belden noted that the
home owners were interested in maintaining the park and that is still an option. Mr. Forbes
asked when the decision was changed from home owner maintenance to City maintenance.
Mr. Belden noted that it transpired during the public hearing process-
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Mr. Belden noted that another item to consider with the parks would be an abandonment of
the easement between lots 54 and 55. Planner Saunders explained the movement of the
required easement. Mr. Belden indicated the storm drainage area and that no public assess is
planned in that area. Discussion ensued on the detention pond and storm drain easement and
the changes made between the site plan application and the platting. City Engineer Crag
Brawner noted that access to the public easement is required. Mr. Forbes asked Mr. Sicz if
he has objections to fences over storm sewers. Mr. Sicz noted that his department cannot
service the drains if there is a fence. Discussion ensued on storm drainage into a private
pond createing a private system. City Engineer Craig Brawner noted that if it is a surface
improvement, it is permissible, however, no buildings shall be constructed over the storm
drainage if it is located underground, a fence shouldn't be a problem. Mr. Sicz noted that all
trash racks on the end of culverts in the City are being removed as the racks only collect
trash that has to be removed by the sanitation department.
Mr. Belden asked about the services required for the lots. Planner Saunders explained that
the townhouse lots required individual services and the up to 5-plex lots required services
adequately sized. Project Engineer Rick Hixson noted that changes can be made easily to
service the 5-plexes as the street isn't paved. He continued that there is a problem on the
portions of Donna Avenue that are paved. Mr. Brawner noted that the main issue is the size
of the water services. Planner Saunders noted that the 16 lots for townhouses are a problem
due to the forcing of the project into a variance situation. He has suggested that since the
street will be cut to make the water service size changes, the applicant should eliminate one
townhouse lot, widen the other lots to the required widths, and then build 14-15 townhouses.
Mr. Belden asked if DRC members could supply information on denial of connecting 4-
plexes to 4" sewers. He needs code cites. He also asked if the 4" sewer could be extended
across the second property with an easement, allowing both townhouse units to use the same
sewer. Discussion ensued on this item. Mr. Brawner noted that this would create a
nightmare for the City if allowed.
Mr. Belden asked if they add the City services as required, can they avoid shutting down the
existing systems to prevent retesting by having the City do the installation. Discussion
ensued on that issue and on chlorinating the services and stubs. Water/Sewer Superintendent
Larry Woodward noted that the stubs would have to be chlorinated and the main will have to
be retested.
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 17, 1996
CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN
10:00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: John Paysek, Larry Woodward, Neil Poulsen, Rick Hixson, Dave
Skelton, Craig Brawner, Roger Sicz, Chuck Winn, and Phill Forbes
STAFF PRESENT: Debbie Arkell, Chris Saunders, Carol Schott
VISITORS PRESENT: John Nordwick, Chuck Hinesley, John Curran, Rich Heck, Joan
Rudberg, Al Stiff, Peg Potter, Keith Belden, Dennis Foreman, Joe Mahar
C. INFORMAL REVIEW
1. Mahar Informal - (Arkell)
Subdivision of Lot 4, Annie Sub. Phase 2 (1994 Pre-Ap as "Creekside
Townhouse Sub., Michael Garrity").
Chairperson Dave Skelton introduced the project. Planner Debbie Arkell invited Dennis
Foreman, Peg Potter, and Joe Mahar to join the DRC. Mr. Foreman explained the project.
The main issues were constructing the project in three phases and what would be required in
each phase, would Rose Park become a regional park, the location of water and sewer lines
and looping, and the number of units in each phase.
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