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HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-29-1996 DRC DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY, OCTOBER 29, 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. Members Present: Larry Woodward, Neil Poulsen, Roger Sicz, Chuck Winn, Craig Brawner, Rob Bukvich, Phill Forbes Staff Present: Debbie Arkell, Dean Patterson, Karen Finke, John Paysek, Carol Schott Visitors Present: Joan Rudberg, Mitchell Johnson, Gail Schontzler, Tom Bourdeaux, Mark Chandler, Gary Bernardo, Dave Messner, Jonathan Roen Vice-Chairperson Chuck Winn called the meeting to order. He noted that there were two items on the agenda. He introduced the Safeway Informal review. A. INFORMAL REVIEW 1. Safeway Informal I-9658 - (Arkell) Oak Street An Informal Review to discuss a Preliminary Site Plan. Mitchell Johnson, Gary Bernardo, and Dave Messner joined DRC. Planner Debbie Arkell explained the project which is located on West Oak, south of Wal-Mart. Mr. Bernardo elaborated further and indicated the segment of 5th Avenue and Baxter Lane that the applicant wishes to have vacated. Project Engineer John Paysek explained that the City doesn't like to vacate streets. He suggested several alternatives, including a private street. Discussion ensued on the parking lot, truck ingress and egress, controlling traffic speeds, traffic accesses from Wal-Mart and K-Mart, and the time frame for the completion of Oak Street to North Rouse Avenue. Discussion followed on the next steps to be done. DRC concurred that the street vacation request and the amended plat need to be done through City Commission. Discussion followed on private versus public streets and the procedure to be used to accomplish the City's and Safeway's goals. Public Service Director Phill Forbes inquired how many parking spaces have been figured. Mr. Bernardo noted that there are plenty. Planner Arkell noted that Wal-Mart has 5.5 parking spaces per 1000 square feet of building and the Planning Office would recommend that as a maximum ratio. Water/Sewer Superintendent Larry Woodward noted that the sewer in that area is old clay the and quite shallow. He continued that Wal-Mart was required to replace the old main as part of their final site plan. He indicated that the water service was available for the I location. Discussion ensued on water and sewer lines. Roger Sicz stated he was not in favor of vacating the street, as it flows well now. Discussion ensued on access locations from Oak Street and potential conflicts with proposed North 5th Avenue south of Oak, and the K-Mart and Comfort Inn accesses. Mr. Bernardo noted that the completion of Oak Street is critical to the Safeway site. Planner Arkell noted that if Oak Street isn't improved by the time Safeway needs it, then Safeway would be obligated to improve it. City Engineer Craig Brawner explained the anticipated time frame for the completion of Oak Street from North 7th to North Rouse Avenue. Discussion ensued on the truck movement in the Safeway and Wal-Mart lots, parking lot landscaping and its calculation, how to proceed in the process, and Safeway's responsibilities. Planner Arkell noted that sidewalks will be required on Oak Street as part of the infrastructure during site plan review; discussion ensued on sidewalk requirements. 2 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TUESDAY, OCTOBER 29, 1996 CITY COMMISSION ROOM, CITY HALL, 411 EAST MAIN 10:00 A.M. Members Present: Larry Woodward, Neil Poulsen, Karen Finke, Roger Sicz, Chuck Winn, John Paysek, Phill Forbes Staff Present: Debbie Arkell, Dean Patterson, Craig Brawner, Rob Bukvich, Carol Schott Visitors Present: Joan Rudberg, Mitchell Johnson, Gail Schontzler, Tom Bourdeaux, Mark Chandler, Gary Bernardo, Dave Messner, Tom Clark B. CONTINUED ITEM 1. Bozeman Warehouses MiSP/COA #Z-9690 - (Patterson, Finke) N. Church A Minor Site Plan/Certificate of Appropriateness Application to allow the construction of a three unit office/manufacturing building with parking. Mark Chandler, Tom Bourdeaux, and Tom Clark joined the DRC. Planner Dean Patterson noted that he received a storm drainage plan yesterday and asked Mr. Chandler to explain it. Mr. Chandler noted that the plan is to install S" PCV pipe for the water main. Streets/Sanitation Superintendent Roger Sicz noted that the City only allows RCP pipe to be installed as PCV tends to crack and break. City Engineer Craig Brawner explained who pays for the improvements and when they are installed. Mr. Chandler asked for reasons for the City standards. Mr. Brawner noted that they are set by policy and are industry wide standards. He continued that the City is trying to correct problems created in the past. Mr. Bourdeaux questioned the non-use of PCV pipe. Mr. Clark inquired if impact fees are being charged for this project. DRC concurred that they are. Planner Patterson noted that none of the impact fees are for storm sewers. Mr. Brawner explained that the impact fees don't cover the cost for installation of streets and water/sewer. Mr. Clark noted that the issue is that the improvements are not just a benefit for the applicant, but everyone on the street. Discussion ensued on storm water drainage. Mr. Clark asked for a compromise on the storm water drainage condition. Mr. Brawner noted that the size for the drainage is for this lot only, it is not oversized for the street run-off. Mr. Clark suggested that the City share in the cost of the installation. Mr. Sicz suggested Mr. Bourdeaux start a petition to create an SID for the storm drainage system. Mr. Brawner discussed the situation further. Public Services Director Phill Forbes asked Mr. Chandler to explain the retention pond and the pipe system that will serve it. He did and discussion ensued on the issue. Mr. Brawner suggested that this not be the final week on this project since new drawings have been submitted. Planner Patterson noted that he had asked last week if any additional drawings were needed and nobody indicated such. Engineering Staff noted that they could furnish their conditions later this week. 3 Mr. Sicz discussed the comments from his department, which were distributed last week. Water/Sewer Superintendent Larry Woodward noted that the City recently installed the water main on this street, and had the City not installed it, the developer would have had to bear the expense. Mr. Bourdeaux argued that the size of the storm sewer line is the issue with him. Discussion ensued on the line size regulations and the location of the detention pond. Second Vice-Chair Forbes asked about continuing the meeting and inquired if the DRC is comfortable with this being the final week of review. Planner Patterson asked Engineering about the length of the sidewalk. Mr. Brawner noted that it will be installed from property line to property line. Mr. Bourdeaux noted that he is installing curb and gutter on the opposite side of the street to help channel the storm drainage. Mr. Brawner noted that will trigger widening the street to a full width and require more paving. He noted that approximately 3-5 feet of additional width will be required. Second Vice-Chair Forbes inquired if any public comment has been received. Planner Patterson noted that a letter from Velma McMeekin has been received and was distributed in last week's packets. She is keeping in close contact with the Planning Office on the development of this property. Planner Patterson noted that Second Vice Chair Forbes had asked last week about the north elevation. Mr. Bourdeaux noted that there is a driveway to allow the tenant in that building to take a two times a month delivery of grain. The tenant will be addressing the building of a silo for storage in his CUP application. Mr. Bourdeaux noted that he will condition the drive on the north side for no other use other than delivery. Planner Patterson noted that the area will have to be paved as it is a driveway. He suggested that Mr. Bourdeaux build the north elevation with a regular door and then the tenant could come in for site modifications in the CUP process to change the door. Planner Patterson reviewed the conditions from the Planning Office. (All conditions are on file in the Planning Office.) Mr. Brawner noted that a floor drain will require an oil/grit separator. He noted that a letter from Mr. Bourdeaux could alleviate the spillage overflow problem by passing the issue on to the tenant who would deal it with in the CUP. Second Vice-Chair Forbes noted that DRC is to make a final decision on this project. Mr. Sicz moved, Planner Patterson seconded, that the project be conditionally approved. Motion carried unanimously. Second Vice-Chair Forbes noted there is an appeals process and Planner Patterson reviewed the process. Meeting adjourned. 4