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RECREATION AND PARKS ADVISORY BOARD
FEBRUARY 12, 2013
7:00 PM
BEALL PARK RECREATION CENTER - 415 N. BOZEMAN
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT:
David Cook, Chairperson Sandy Dodge
Alan Engelbart Salal Huber McGee
Lee Poole Matthew Parsons
Richard Shanahan John Soderberg
Bob Wade Julie Zickovich
Carson Taylor, Commission Liaison
Absent:
Liz O'Donnell Steve Roderick
Beth Thorsen Gary Vodenhal/Kelly Pohl, GVLT Liaison
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Mitch Overton, Director of Parks& Recreation Jamie Saitta, Recreation Manager
Dan McCarthy, Aquatics Manager Michelle Dipzinslci, Recording Secretary
GUEST PRESENTERS:
Tate Chamberlin, Avalaunch
COPIES OF THE RECORDING ARE AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST
0:00:00-Chairperson Cook called the meeting to order at 7:04pm
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Linked Minutes of the Recreation and Park Advisory Board Meeting,February 12,2013
0:00:24 -Item #1—Approve January 10, 2012 meeting minutes:
• no changes were requested
Motion: Boardmember Dodge motioned to approve the January 10, 2013 minutes as
presented.
Boardmember Wade seconded the motion.
The motion passed unanimously.
Chairperson Cook moved Item 6A—Interchange Project to be discussed first
0:06:03— Item #2—Public Comment Period, limit 3 minutes per speaker:
• no public comment was presented
0:06:38— Item #3— Introduction of New Members— Matthew Parson and John Soderberg:
• John Soderberg:
o impressed with what the board is doing and wanted to join
o wants to be part of a group working towards the common good
o retired minister who served the community from 1975 to 1985 and returned 4 years ago to
retire
o is also on the YMCA Board
• Matthew Parson:
o was interested in joining the board when he saw the notice of an opening
o has a young son and finds himself in the parks more now
o has a degree in Recreation and Parks Management
o wants to contribute and is happy to be on the board
0:09:50— Item #4—Announcements:
• Chairperson Cook had the following announcements:
o says he may restrict discussion at times to make sure time doesn't run over for the
meetings, he wants to make certain meetings more of a central topic
o may have soccer groups come here to talk about their organization and encourage them to
help
0:11:42— Item #5— Committee Reports:
• Subdivision Review—Sandy Dodge:
o provided background information on Baxter Meadows
o 0:14:43—The Knoll at Baxter Meadows— Motion &Vote
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Linked Minutes of the Recreation and Park Advisory Board Meeting,February 12,2013
■ refer to The Knoll at Baxter Meadows Committee Report hand out for the
information discussed
■ maps were put up to show the areas discussed
Motion: Boardmember Wade motioned to support the Subdivision Review Committees
recommendation on The Knoll at Baxter Meadows.
Boardmember Soderberg seconded the motion.
The motion passed unanimously.
o 0:22:59—The Crossing at Baxter Meadows— Motion &Vote
■ refer to The Crossing at Baxter Meadows Committee Report hand out for the
information discussed
■ maps were put up to show the areas discussed
■ cash in lieu was explained and discussed
Motion: Boardmember Wade motioned to support the Subdivision Review Committees
recommendation on The Knoll at Baxter Meadows.
Boardmember Poole seconded the motion.
The motion passed unanimously.
0:28:12— Item #6— Division & Gallatin Valley Land Trust Reports:
• 0:02:03—Interchange Project:
o Tate Chamberlin discussed a project he would like to hold in Lindley Park in June
■ discussed other projects that he has done in the past
■ will reserve the park for June 28—30 with the event being held on the 29`h
■ explained the various events that will be occurring both inside the park and out
■ this will potentially be an annual event evolving as it goes
o This event will be added to a future agenda to be discussed more in depth
• 0:28:12—Parks Improvement Grants:
o some applications have already been received
o advertisement in the Chronicle will be going out soon
o $75,000 is available this year
o the Grant Committee will meet and decided the distribution
■ Committee members are unknown at this time, will research and notification will
be sent out
0:30:24—Item #7—Adopt A Park Assignments—David Cook:
• explained the concept of Adopt A Park
• Assignments are:
o Boardmember Dodge will adopt Cooper Park
o Chairperson Cook will adopt Southside Park
Linked Minutes of the Recreation and Park Advisory Board Meeting,February 12,2013
o Boardmember McGee will adopt Bogert Park
o Boardmember Soderberg will adopt Kirk Park
o Boardmember Zickovich will adopt Bozeman Ponds
• bring issues in these parks to the board
• this will be discussed again at next month's meeting
0:31:52— Item #8—Story Mill Update— David Cook:
• Maddy Pope with Trust for Public Land who owns the property will attend the March meeting to
give a full presentation and a detailed discussion will follow
• a map showing the 3 pieces of land totaling 60 acres was provided
• the Stockyard Cafe owner is donating the land along the East Gallatin River
• discussed what the land could be used for—park land, low income housing
o board members are asked to talk to people to see what they would like to see the land
used for
• the Idaho Pole owns 100 acres south of the Story Mill Site, this is a superfund site that could be
used as sports fields
o this is a different situation and will be on next month's agenda for discussion
o the City/County Health Department is interested in rehabilitating this land
0:44:50—Item #9 —Aquatics & Recreation Center Discussion -Staff:
• 0:47:38— Public Comment Presented
o Jake Selbeck—Headcoach & CEO of Bozeman Barracuda Swim Team:
■ currently have 120 member
■ concerned about capacity, they are having to turn kids away
■ there are no local facilities that can support swim meet events, Regional and
Central meets have to be held in Seattle
o need to teach kids to swim, drowning is the#2 cause of death for children
o Dan Himsworth—regular swimmer at the Swim Center:
■ curious about bulkhead issue, researched it and it only takes about 10 minutes to
move bulkheads 25 yards according to You Tube videos
■ bulkheads could be custom made for pools at a cost of about$120,000 to$150,000
• not sure of the cost to lengthen the pool but it would be cheaper to do it at the
shallow end of the pool
■ provided a handout for bulkheads
• Chairperson Cook reminded the board that they need to focus on what the City Commission has
directed staff to do with the boards input; that is to consider the four options in the analysis. Staff
has discussed several options that are open for discussion:
• Bogert Park—Options#1 and #4:
o Option #1—Outdoor Pool:
■ staff has discussed that they would like to bring to the advisory board a launching
pad for discussion
• discuss ideas staff has for meeting the needs of the community
• then present one recommendation to the Commission jointly
■ staff knows that there is a need for an aquatic amenity at Bogert Park, up for
discussion are:
Linked Minutes of the Recreation and Park Advisory Board Meeting,February 12,2013
• use the money allocated for the shell and heater-$492,000
o will still need to do the bath house and locker room renovation and
the retention wall issue
o there will be no increase in capacity
• demolish the pool and reconfigure the area for a park/splash pad/spray
ground for 2014
o staff considers this the better use of the funds and for the park
o Option 44—Outdoor Family Leisure Pool:
■ build one outdoor family water park
• would be well received and is highly needed
• could be a regional draw
■ the ideal amenity that would serve the community would be to build one amenity
that would have an indoor and outdoor family pools
• focused on swim lessons, family recreation, senior programs, and birthday
parties
• this would enable the Swim Center to focus on lap swimming and
competition swimming
• Swim Center:
o Option 42:
■ keep doing what has been done for the last several years
• invest the capital improvement money making gradual improvements
• will need to address the changing rooms, they are not ADA compatible
o to renovate the front end including the lobby, offices and changing
rooms will be about$800,000 to $1 million—this does not include
improvements to the pool
• the bulkheads at the Swim Center have inset stairs into the walls so the
bulkheads cannot be moved easily
o Aquatic Manager McCarthy explained the problems with the
bulkheads
• lengthening the building and pool would put the pool out of service for 8 to
9 months
• keeping this pool as is would allow the department to stay within their
means
o storage could be added outside
• Proposed Recreation Center:
o Option #3:
■ the YMCA wants to build an indoor center at the Regional Park, they will need $10
to $12 million
• they hired a professional firm, Donor by Design, they will evaluate the
potential of getting the money from donors, by the end of March the YMCA
will be able to say if they can build the center
■ a partnership between the City and YMCA was discussed
■ have or will be meeting with private gym owners, the County, the Hospital, and the
School Board to find out if there is a possibility of partnerships
• Board discussion:
o Boardmember Zickovich is disappointed in staff for not listening to the board in what they
want, there is no improvement for competitive swimming
o Boardmember Wade supports Boardmember Zickovich, explaining the usage of various
groups of people
Linked Minutes of the Recreation and Park Advisory Board Meeting,February 12,2013
o Director Overton stated that it could be up to three years without an outdoor pool
o Aquatics Manager McCarthy stated they are going to try to keep Bogert open this summer
o Boardmembers McGee and Poole discussed the pricing that they have looked into and they
feel the price could be cut substantially, they will meet with Director Overton before
bringing it to the Board
o Boardmember Soderberg has discussed the options with people and he believes the public
would like to keep a pool at Bogert, feels the issue regarding competitive swimming should
be discussed further
o Boardmember Shanahan agrees that the costs could be cut and that there should be some
aquatic facility in Bogert
o Boardmember Dodge stated that if Bogert is losing 10,000 gallons of water a day it doesn't
seem rational to keep it going. He hasn't been hearing the need of a splash park or
meandering streams,there is a need for lap swimming, swimming lessons and competitive
lanes.
o there was more discussion regarding bulkheads, Aquatics Manager McCarthy explained
how the bulkheads at the Swim Center work
o discussed bond procedures and if it would be possible to get one for a pool
1:48:38—Item #10— Parks and Recreation Department Director Report — Mitch Overton:
• has been working on large project planning
o Bozeman creek enhancement project
o Park Trails and Open Space Program
■ amendment to the code
■ establish the committee
• meeting with Directors and the City Manager regarding things that could affect the bond issue
• working with GVLT, FWP, the County and MDOT regarding the trail to the M
• meeting with TPL and went to their community meeting regarding the Story Mill area
• working on the aquatics study and partnership meetings
• working on budgets, organizational charts and how they look and having a healthy organization
• moving forward on the acquisition of restroom facilities in Lindley Park, there are some issues with
the water/sewer lines
• informed on upcoming events for the Recreation and Aquatics Departments
1:55.38— Item #11— City Commissioner Perspective—Carson Taylor:
• wants to know if board members hear anything about the ice rinks, he has been using the
Southside rink and likes it. Last year's ice wasn't good, he wants to know if the rink issues are
weather or budget related
• the best way to recommend to the Commission regarding the aquatics issue would be to all agree,
staff and Board, on something that is workable, solvable and meets the community needs. If they
can't, there will be an open meeting and people can come and voice what they want
o he doesn't want the board to worry about where the money is going to come from but
what the community wants and what is best for them
• he thanked the board for their service and their time
2:00:52— Item #12— FYI
Linked Minutes of the Recreation and Park Advisory Board Meeting,February 12,2013
• the next meeting is scheduled for March 14, which is the middle of spring break; Chairperson Cook
wants to hear from board members within the next 10 days if they will be available for that
meeting or if it should be moved to a different date
• Boardmember McGee wants to know if anyone is interested potentially eliminating pocket parks,
she would like to see larger park areas
• Boardmember Wade let everyone know about an article in the Park and Rec Magazine about the
City of Missoula eliminating using so much gas such as not idling their vehicles
o the city just renewed the subscription to that magazine, the city gets 12 board member
issues
2:08:12— Item #13—Adjournment:
• Adjourned at 9.12pm.
David Cook, Chairperson
ATTEST:
Michelle Dipzinsl<', R c ding Secretary
PREPARED BY:
Michelle Dipzinsld, WO i g Secretary
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