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Pedestrian and Traffic Safety Committee
Minutes of the November 10, 2010 Meeting
Upstairs Conference Room Alfred Stiff Office Bldg.
Those Present:
Voting Committee Members:
Ralph Zimmer (Gallatin County)
Frank Manseau (Gallatin County)
Gary Vodehnal (City of Bozeman)
Danielle Scharf (City of Bozeman)
Sue Brown (At-large Voting Member)
Sam Miller (At-large Voting Member)
Non-Voting Committee Members:
John Van Delinder (City of Bozeman – Street Superintendent)
Liaison Officers:
Guests:
Sean Becker (City Commissioner)
Daniel R. Peterson (Concerned Citizen)
Bill Bartlett (Bozeman Area Bicycle Advisory Board member)
Quorum:
present
NEW BUSINESS:
Ralph called the meeting to order at 12:06 PM.
Minutes.
1.Minutes from the October 6, 2010 meeting were approved with minor edits made
by Ralph Zimmer prior to distribution.
Public Comment.
2.Daniel Peterson expressed some general concerns regarding a lack of
pedestrian accommodations in Bozeman and specifically mentioned that the pedestrian
signals on Main Street were not working. Ralph and John explained that our committee was
instrumental in working with MDT to change the pedestrian signals so you don’t have to
push the button to cross Main Street from 7 am – 8 pm from Wallace to Grand. You should
never have to push the button when waiting to cross the side streets. Unless something is
malfunctioning, the walk signal should appear automatically. Sean also noted that if a fire
truck would have recently come through, the Opticom would override the pedestrian call.
John said he would check the signals to make sure they are not malfunctioning.
Liaison Officer Reports.
3.Liaison officers were not able to be in attendance today.
Voting Member Status.
4. The terms of two of our voting members (Ralph Zimmer and Gary
Vodehnal) will expire at the end of the calendar year. Both will most likely be seeking
reappointment, but it is possible that the respective commissions may choose to appoint
someone else in their place. Our two at-large voting members are annual appointments, so
their terms will also expire at the end of the year. Ralph has not had any discussions with
them yet regarding their desire to be reappointed.
College and Willson Improvements.
5.As recommended at our last committee meeting,
Ralph contacted the City to suggest that they delay implementing the turning restrictions at
College and Willson until after traffic counts were collected at nearby intersections in order
to permit subsequent before/after comparisons. He learned the City had already started
collecting the “before” data. Ralph asked the committee if anyone had any observations to
share since the restrictions have been implemented. Gary observed a driver waiting to go
straight, but after a significant delay and honking from Gary, she ended up turning right.
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CTEP Project Update.
6. Gary attended the recent CTEP committee meeting on October 14
and encouraged the committee to incorporate our recommended project additions. Several of
the accessible curb ramp projects that we suggested were added to the top of the list.
Drainage in that part of town will still be a concern and it remains to be seen if CTEP will
pay for any necessary storm drain modifications that may come up. Other top priorities
included sidewalks along Centennial Park, south side of Oak, south side of Durston, and
north side of Oak along Rose Park frontage. Gary also attended the County Commission
meeting and testified on behalf of using County CTEP funds for the trail project along the
south side of Oak from Rouse to 7th. The Commission approved using $90,000 to build the
portion along the fairgrounds. The goal is that the remainder of the project will be completed
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with contributions from City CTEP funds and the North 7 Urban Renewal District. Gary
will get the updated CTEP project list to Ralph for distribution to the rest of the committee.
The list will likely be on the City Commission agenda for early 2011.
Street Department Report.
7. John reported that MDT will be looking to get funds together
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for upgrading ramps and street crossings along Main Street from Grand to 19 and from 20
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to 23. They are currently looking to get the design underway and the improvements will
likely be installed within the next 5 years. The City is still expecting that the North Rouse
project will be a ways out in the future, probably 15 years or so. The CTEP trail project from
College to Ferguson is mostly constructed, but they’ll have to hold off on installing the ramp
at Ferguson because of the location of an existing pull box. Frank asked about resurfacing on
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Kagy and John said that MDT is currently working on plans for College from 19 to Huffine
(curb, gutter, sidewalk), then they’ll start working on Kagy next. The median improvements
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that the City installed on Kagy east of 7 are just about complete. They narrowed the median
to provide additional room for bike lanes and have asked MSU if they’d like to landscape the
median. As a privately funded project, a half-block of new sidewalk was recently installed
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on the east side of South 3 immediately north of Hill Street.
Update on Distracted Driver Issues.
8.Ralph has attended BABAB’s last two meetings to
participate in their discussion regarding distracted driver issues. Bill Bartlett, a local attorney
who is in attendance at our meeting today, has been the one most interested in pushing the
topic on behalf of BABAB. Since the last BABAB meeting, Bill and Ralph have exchanged
several emails and phone calls regarding this issue. Both groups have set this issue as a
priority and have expressed an interest in working together to push it forward. Therefore, we
should develop a task force made up of members from both committees that are most
interested in this issue. The task force should then develop a joint strategy for moving this
forward to the Commission.
The consensus at BABAB’s last meeting was that it would be nice if our committee were
pushing for wording identical to what BABA is pushing for, and they thought the wording
ideally should be identical to what the City of Billings recently adopted.
BABAB seemed to favor a primary law, but our committee has so far only been discussing a
secondary law. BABAB may be wavering a little bit on whether they prefer primary vs.
secondary. Sam noted that Billings’ law is much more restrictive than what he previously
proposed for Bozeman. He’s not sure he agrees that bicycles should be included as they are
not as much of a danger to the rest of the community. John noted that BABAB’s discussion
suggested that bicycles may automatically be included as they are often considered a vehicle.
Sam said we could also start with a secondary law for a certain time period then go to
primary to allow for a transition period. Billings has been enforcing the new ordinance since
October 1st but so far have just been giving warnings, and will probably continue to do so for
the next 6 months.
Ralph mentioned a recent US DOT ruling that prohibits texting while operating a commercial
vehicle. He has requested more information from one of his contacts and will forward it to
the rest of the group when he receives it.
Sean noted that the Commission will be meeting in January to set their goals for 2011 and he
encouraged us to attend and bring this up at that time. Sam has also been planning on
submitting a letter to the editor to gauge support. Sean said we can also send the topic to the
Commission’s agenda email address. Ralph asked Sean if the individual members of the
Commission will be submitting their goals at some time prior to the goal-setting meeting in
January and Sean said no. Then we’ll have time between now and then to lobby individual
members. Sean said they probably won’t make a decision on 2011 goals until May, because
they usually wait until the legislature convenes. The goal-setting meeting is an all day
meeting where they’ll be allowing public comment throughout the day, but we can also
submit letters now to be included in the meeting packet. We should push to make sure it’s an
agenda item for 2011.
Bill suggested that we consult with the new Chief of Police as they’ve received mixed
messages on where the Police Department stands on primary vs. secondary. Sam noted that
the decision of primary vs. secondary can be made after we get on the agenda. Sam spoke
with the Chief of Police previously and he indicated that he was happy to follow along with
what the public process dictates. John agreed that our focus should be getting it on the goal-
setting agenda. Once it’s on the list of goals, a member of City staff will have to take it on.
Ralph asked for a final consensus from the group about joining forces with BABAB and
communicating a uniform message to the Commission. Gary and Danielle both expressed
support for joining forces with BABAB with the goal of getting on the Commission’s goal-
setting agenda. No one spoke against that course of action. All agreed to having the decision
made by consensus that we will collaborate with BABAB with the likely form being a joint
task force. Sam and Frank both volunteered to serve on the task force. Bill is currently
BABAB’s only representative. The final consensus was that Ralph will designate individuals
to serve on the task force with the initial members being Sam and Frank. Ralph will attempt
to participate as well. This group will need to make some progress fairly quickly in order to
get on the Commission’s January goal-setting agenda.
Safe Routes to School Task Force.
9. The SRTS task force is currently in limbo and it’s not
clear who will be leading it in the future. Ralph recently talked with Taylor Lonsdale and he
encouraged us to designate someone from this group to serve as an official representative on
the task force. Ralph asked both Gary and Danielle about this via email and both have
expressed an interest, but we probably need to discuss it further. Ralph asked the committee
to give him authority to designate one or two representatives and no one objected.
CTEP Committee.
10. Gary is on the CTEP Committee as a representative from GVLT, but we
do not have official representation from this committee. BABAB does have official
representation from their committee (Bill Bartlett). Gary expressed some concern that there
may be a conflict with him representing both GVLT and the PTS Committee because
GVLT’s priorities are not always the same as ours. Ralph will send out an email to
committee members to see if anyone else would be interested in serving as a representative
of PTS on the CTEP Committee.
Highland & Ellis.
11. Gary provided an update on the work he’s doing with the Bridger Ski
Foundation to establish more ski trails behind the hospital and the potential crossing
improvements at Highland and Ellis. There isn’t any money available to install a flasher on
Highland and he wasn’t able to get permission to construct the trail connection from the
intersection to the parking lot. They have proceeded with the development of the trails and
the new preferred parking area will be the upper softball complex parking lot. Potential
safety issues with crossing Highland will be evaluated this winter.
Future Agenda Items.
12. The following items will be considered as future agenda items.
Missing sidewalk sections and accessible curb ramps along Main Street
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Sidewalk/trail along Oak from 7 to Rouse
Longfellow Crossing
Path along Bridger Canyon Road
Galligator Trail crossing at South Willson & Lincoln – review # of crossings along
Willson from Kagy to Garfield and consider a recommendation to install another at
Mason?
South Willson & College intersection improvements
Citizen proposal to install flashers on South Willson at Dickerson
Continue discussion on Complete Streets Policy
Continue discussion on Sidewalk Encroachment Policy
Continue discussion on Distracted Driver Issues
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South 19 Avenue turn lanes
The meeting was adjourned at 1:30 PM.
Next Meeting:
December 8, 2010
Minutes by Danielle Scharf
Minor edits made by Ralph Zimmer