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PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 5, 2010
ITEM 1. CALL TO ORDER AND ATTENDANCE
President Henyon called the regular meeting of the Planning Board to order at 7:01 p.m. in the
Commission Meeting Room, City Hall, 121 North Rouse Avenue, Bozeman, Montana and
directed the secretary to take attendance.
Members Present: Staff Present:
Brian Caldwell, Vice President Tim McHarg, Planning Director
Ed Sypinski Chris Saunders, Assistant Planning Director
Jodi Leone Tara Hastie, Recording Secretary
Chris Budeski
Jeff Krauss
Trever McSpadden
Erik Henyon, President
Members Absent:Guests Present:
Eugene Graf, IV
Bill Quinn
ITEM 2. PUBLIC COMMENT (0-15 MINUTES)
{Limited to any public matter within the jurisdiction of the Planning Board and not
scheduled on this agenda. Three-minute time limit per speaker.}
Seeing no public comment forthcoming, President Henyon closed the public comment portion of
the meeting.
ITEM 3. MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 21, 2010
MOTION:
Mr. Budeskimoved, Vice President Caldwell seconded, to approve the minutes of
The motion carried 7-0
September 21, 2010 as presented.. Those voting aye being President
Henyon, Vice President Caldwell, Mr. McSpadden, Mr. Budeski, Mr. Sypinski, Mr. Krauss, and
Ms. Leone. Those voting nay being none.
ITEM 4. FORMAL DISCUSSION ITEM
1. Planning Board recommendations for changes to Site Plan Application/DRC
review process.
President Henyon stated the intention of the item was to provide suggestions to Planning Staff
and the City Commission. He recommended the suggestions be formally voted on.
Mr. Budeski stated he had presented the flow chart in its current form for discussion purposes.
He stated the chart was based on a Wednesday submittal deadline which was noted as day 0. He
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stated the proposal included a checklist of items that would be reviewed by a Planner to be
determined for completeness and prepared for the applicant. He suggested Staff make sure items
such as a topographic survey were accurate and complete. He stated the review of Staff would be
more efficient after a counter check by Staff; he had first encountered the method in Oregon. He
stated if the application was deemed complete it would be forwarded to a Staff member for
review and scheduled for appropriate meetings. He stated day 10 would be the first DRC meeting
and suggested the applicant not be involved in the first meeting; prior to the second week of
DRC, Staff would provide comments and recommendations to the applicant. He stated he had
suggested the public comment period be incorporated into the timeframe during which DRC
review was to take place. He stated he had also included a fast track option to challenge
conditions or interpretations to City Commission that would be roughly one and a half weeks after
submittal of the application; care would need to be taken to require justification for City
Commission review. He stated a typical application would take five weeks from submission to
approval.
Mr. Sypinski clarified the public comment period would need to include other advisory/review
boards and asked when those entities would review the application. Mr. Budeski responded other
advisory body review would take place during the DRC review period as well. President Henyon
stated his understanding was that if comments from other review agencies were not received in a
timely manner (two days prior to the second week DRC meeting) they would not be included in
the approval. Mr. Krauss responded some advisory bodies only met once a month and the
projects would not fall within their review time. Vice President Caldwell stated an application
needing review by anyone other than the DRB or HBAB currently only took roughly the same
time frame for review.
Assistant Director Saunders stated there had been a desire and need to get a better clarification of
the role of the HPAB in the review process; as it stands they are not a really active development
review body. He added the TIF Districts had not been mentioned, but would be an important
part of the review process as well.
Vice President Caldwell asked how Mr. Budeski would describe the differences in the proposed
review process from the current review process. Mr. Budeski responded the intent was to shorten
the review period and to provide the applicant with a firm time frame for approval. Vice
President Caldwell clarified that the review would have a due date. Mr. Budeski added the public
comment period and other agency review at the same time as DRC review would be the best
method of expediting the whole process. Assistant Director Saunders added that there could be a
period of a year during which an automatic hold could be placed on a project; three days after the
last advisory body meeting is the current review period ending date to allow interested parties
time to review the information and comment – there was currently no public hearing process at
the site plan review level unless it involved a deviation or variance. Mr. Krauss suggested
including the Neighborhood Coordinator notification after the application was deemed complete.
Assistant Director Saunders responded the Neighborhood Coordinator received the material upon
submittal by the applicant after the application had been deemed complete for review. Mr. Krauss
suggested Neighborhood Coordinator be notified on day 3 of the flowchart; he suggested that
adding predictability could be achieved by notifying the Neighborhood Coordinator.
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Vice President Caldwell asked for clarification of when the Neighborhood Coordinator would see
a proposal. Assistant Director Saunders suggested day 6 would be the best location to allow the
Planner time to deem the application complete and would allow adequate time to send the
information out to affected neighborhoods. Vice President Caldwell suggested the proposal
include an opportunity to answer to public comments prior to final review of the proposal. Mr.
Krauss responded the current flowchart did not change the final approval authority.
Director McHarg asked if the Board would be considering issues that would be affected by
changes to the review process such as approval authority, noticing requirements, etc. or if they
would be making recommendations on the flowchart items as proposed. President Henyon stated
the flowchart had come out of the Work Session meetings and the Board’s intention was to make
recommendations to that affect.
Planner McHarg stated that there was an easier way to provide public notice; he suggested that
when the application was deemed complete the adjacent properties could be noticed immediately
so that more options were available to the applicant earlier in the process. He stated there needed
to be coordination from the TIF boards and suggested a letter from them be included with an
application upon submittal. Mr. Budeski added the whole application could be made into a PDF
for online or e-mail distribution. Assistant Director Saunders added that the City Commission had
already been receiving digital submittals that were available online; there were concerns regarding
records retention when using digital documentation as well as incompatible software issues. Mr.
Krauss suggested that one paper copy of everything be kept.
Mr. Budeski stated he would like to see the number of sets of plans required to be submitted by
the applicant be reduced. Director McHarg stated it was his experience that members of the
public did not want the plans as a whole but were more concerned with the elevations, site plan,
and landscape plan.
Vice President Caldwell added that two days notice of concern regarding an application was not
sufficient for the applicant; he noted that in the past he had requested two week DRC review
instead of three week review and suggested that could be incorporated into the flowchart to allow
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the DRC to approve the proposal at their 2 week review. He stated there were questions of
thresholds on when an application would be reviewed by the City Commission or the Planning
Director; he asked if applications with fewer issues could be approved by the Planning Director to
lessen the congestion of the Commission agendas. Mr. Budeski clarified that his intention had
been to give the Planning Department more approval authority. Assistant Director Saunders
responded that the way the current ordinance read, the City Commission had the right to review
everything and had delegated specific types of projects to specific review bodies. The discussion
had been that the Commission would reclaim jurisdiction if they were asked to reclaim it. He
stated there was some discussion as to what would be considered reclaiming and what would be
considered commenting; reclamation would be two Commission meetings – one to reclaim and
one to review what the applicant was proposing. President Henyon suggested a measurable
threshold, such as four letters of public comment against a proposal, could be included in the
language. Assistant Director Saunders responded the threshold would need to be relevant and not
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just that the neighbors were mad at the applicant. Mr. Budeski responded his intent was not to
remove the approval authority from the Planning Department, but to take the specific issue at
hand to the Commission for determination if it could not be agreed upon. Director McHarg
responded it would be difficult to separate the specific issue from the review of the proposal
though he understood the intention of the Board. Mr. Krauss agreed with Director McHarg.
President Henyon suggested when the applicant met with the DRC and everyone was in
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agreement, the 3 week of DRC did not need to occur. Mr. McSpadden stated President Henyon
had overlooked the DRB review; the applicant could agree with DRC and DRB recommendations
or could disagree and go to the Commission. Assistant Director Saunders clarified that the role of
the Planning Director was not to just say yes to every advisory board recommendation; the Staff
Planner included each advisory body comment, as well as public comment, in a Staff report to the
Director who would have the authority to remove or include conditions of approval. Mr.
McSpadden added there was an opportunity at any point in the review for the applicant to say
they were in disagreement with the recommended conditions of approval.
Mr. Krauss suggested Staff would need to determine whether or not the Commission should
review the proposal. Assistant Director Saunders responded a list of suggestions for types of
projects that could be approved by the Planning Director could be compiled for the Board’s
review. Mr. Krauss stated that every person that wanted to appeal to their elected officials would
be heard for at least the next year; the Commission had always been viewed as the final approval
authority.
Mr. Budeski suggested that if the applicant was only concerned about one or two issues, the
specific condition of contention could be ruled on by the Commission without ruling on the
proposal itself. Mr. Krauss stated he did not think they could roll on Staff in that way and asked
if the Commission would be viewed as quasi-judicial or legislative during those reviews; when
reviewing formal projects the Commission was quasi-judicial. Mr. Budeski suggested the DRB
dates could float to be in accordance with the last meeting of the DRC. Assistant Director
Saunders responded the DRB met twice per month which would allow time for their review
though a fifth week might extend the review time. Mr. Krauss added that when the Board Of
Adjustment was reinstate they were not granted all types of projects for review and approval.
Vice President Caldwell reiterated the request from Mr. Krauss to direct Planning Staff to review
and make recommendations to the City Commission regarding modifying the review authority of
the Planning Director. President Henyon stated he would feel more comfortable allowing the
Planning Department to facilitate those amendments to the approval authority of the Planning
Director themselves. Vice President Caldwell concurred.
MOTION
: Mr. Krauss moved, Mr. Budeski seconded, to direct Staff to provide a list of
decisions the Planning Director would be comfortable with making for presentation to the
Planning Board for recommendation to the City Commission.
Director McHarg responded an outline and hierarchy of items could be compiled to be considered
by the Board for administrative approval. Mr. Krauss suggested there were a lot of things that
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could be recommended for Planning Director decision; an Appeal would be different, but having
the Appeal process would free up projects that could be approved relatively quickly.
President Henyon suggested an amendment to the motion to ask Staff to provide comments for
both site plan and subdivision review. Mr. Krauss stated subdivision review was more
complicated due to State requirements and suggested the item be kept separate. Director
McHarg suggested that at the next meeting the Board discuss the parameters for changing things
once they were approved during subdivision review; he added it would be an opportunity to
provide more flexibility.
Vice President Caldwell suggested a friendly amendment to the motion to include advisement to
Staff to compress the site plan review period and provide a date certain on project decision. Mr.
Krauss suggested a section to allow the applicant to Appeal the decision be included. President
Caldwell suggested a friendly amendment to the motion to include the Appeal language as
suggested by the proposed flowchart. President Henyon suggested including the distribution of
the submittal materials after the application had been deemed complete on day 3. Mr. Krauss
responded he would still need the materials hard copy and Staff would likely need hard copies as
well. Mr. Budeski stated his intent was not to have the applicant submit the application wholly
digitally. Mr. McSpadden added that distinct time frame changes would need to occur and there
may be the necessity of changing the language in the UDO.
Vice President Caldwell clarified that the Board was asking Planning Staff for recommendations
to accomplish the goal of compressing review time and certainty on an approval date. Mr.
McHarg responded procedural identifications would be made by Staff as the list was being
compiled.
Ms. Leone stated she did not know if there was currently a flowchart available for the public; she
suggested providing a level of training such as meetings with new architects. Mr. Sypinski
responded there was a flowchart included in the UDO. Ms. Leone stated she liked to see dates
included in the flowcharts. Director McHarg added the applicant had the opportunity to submit
an Informal application for review and would be provided with advice and comment as well as
alternatives to what was being proposed. President Caldwell suggested a friendly amendment to
include review of the public noticing process.
FINAL MOTION: ,
Mr. Krauss moved, Mr. Budeski secondedto direct Staff to provide a list of
decisions the Planning Director would be comfortable with making for presentation to the
Planning Board for recommendation to the City Commission, advisement to Staff to compress the
site plan review period and provide a date certain on project decision, to include the appeal
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language as suggested by the proposed flowchartand Staff review and recommendation for the
The motion carried 7-0.
public noticing process.Those voting aye being President Henyon,
Vice President Caldwell, Mr. McSpadden, Mr. Budeski, Mr. Sypinski, Mr. Krauss, and Ms.
Leone. Those voting nay being none.
Mr. Krauss stated that he would like to discuss having the city taxpayer pay for the Appeal
process; the message to the community seemed to be that the Appeal would cost more than the
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modification of the approval and he thought that was wrong. Director McHarg responded there
were two ways to prevent spurious appeals; a high fee or a decent set of criteria associated with
an appeal to make a determination by the Commission to accept or reject the appeal.
President Caldwell stated that at the next meeting the Board would be switching back and forth
between site plan and subdivision review and suggested more work on specific code standards as
they related to site plan review as well as the applicability of UDO code requirements and how
they were applied instead of moving to subdivision review. He stated there could be an
opportunity to modify the thresholds for review if proposals were within certain Districts; he
suggested the Site Plan review process be discussed in more detail at the next meeting of the
Board.
Mr. Budeski stated the Board would need to have support from the Mayor and Commission as
Planning review would be dictating review timeframes to other City Departments. He stated he
thought it would take Planning Staff longer than two weeks to provide the requested information
to the Board and added that the subdivision review process was pretty smooth already. Director
McHarg responded he had informed affected City Departments that the review process was up for
discussion by the Planning Board and the Commission Work Plan had included the discussion as
well. He added he would like to see the subdivision review process discussed sooner rather than
later and added that he had been having review process discussions with local entities. President
Henyon suggested sticking with the planned schedule for discussion of the review processes. Mr.
Krauss stated he agreed that there were substantive code changes that might need to be made to
provide predictability and more options for the applicant.
ITEM 4.5. NEW BUSINESS
Director McHarg noted the City offices would be closed for Election Day and asked if the Board
had a preference on when they would like to meet that week. Mr. Krauss suggested no meeting
be held if there were no projects scheduled for review so the next regular meeting would be held
on October 16, 2010. The Board decided to meet on Wednesday, November 3, 2010. Director
McHarg asked when the Board wanted the recommendations for the Site Plan review process.
Mr. Budeski responded the second meeting of November was when he was expecting to see those
recommendations. The Board concurred.
Assistant Director Saunders stated that Site Plans were not the only review process included in
the UDO and noted re-use’s, COA’s, etc. were more expedited and may not have been part of the
general knowledge of the Board members. Director McHarg added those types of zoning
applications were really the meat and potatoes of the Planning Department but were also the ones
that most people did not pay attention to though they could create a lot of friction. He added he
would love to come up with a better system for those types of applications.
Mr. Krauss stated he had read that Dee-O-Gee had their signs permitted and asked how that
decision had been made. Director McHarg responded Staff had suggested the owner review the
Comprehensive Sign Plan to temporarily reallocate the unused signage allowance for the tenants
on the main floor. Mr. Sypinski applauded Staff for their negotiations with the applicant and
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property owner to resolve the matter. Assistant Director Saunders responded Staff was working
on sample comprehensive sign plans and permits on the website for members of the public. Mr.
Budeski asked if there had been a fee associated with modifying the Comprehensive Sign Plan.
Director McHarg responded there had been a minimal fee. Mr. Krauss stated the lesson was that
Staff had worked with property owner to find a way to allow their signage; he noted the tenant
had made three attempts to increase their signage allotment but was held by the lease agreement.
Vice President Caldwell stated the real issue was that a poor signage plan had been submitted; a
thoughtful example could be ready to be implemented. Mr. Krauss suggested the development at
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3 and Kagy could be an issue in the future with regard to the sign code due to multiple tenants
on multiple floors. Mr. Budeski added it was often unknown what size of sign would be
requested when the land was developed.
ITEM 5. ADJOURNMENT
Seeing there was no further business before the Planning Board, President Henyon adjourned the
meeting at 8:40 p.m.
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Erik Henyon, President Tim McHarg, Planning Director
Planning Board Planning & Community Development
City of Bozeman City of Bozeman
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