HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-27-10 Minutes - Transportation Coordinating CommitteeMINUTES
BOZEMAN AREA TRANSPORTATION COORDINATING COMMITTEE
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 27, 2010
These minutes are not word for word and should be considered in addition to the
audio recording of this meeting. Click here for a link to the audio recording.
ITEM 1. CALL TO ORDER AND ATTENDANCE
Chairperson Christopher Scott called the meeting to order at 10:03 a.m. on Wednesday, January
27, 2010 in the City Commission Room, City Hall, 121 North Rouse Avenue, Bozeman, MT and
directed members to introduce themselves.
Members present:
Christopher Scott, Planning Department, Gallatin County, Chair of TCC
Jeff Krauss, Mayor, City of Bozeman
Bill Murdock, County Commission
Jeff Ebert, MDT, Butte District
Joe Olsen, Engineering Services Superintendent, Butte District MDT
Ray Stocks, Bozeman Area Maintenance Chief
Ralph Zimmer, Pedestrian and Traffic Safety Committee
Carol Strizich, Statewide and Urban Planning, MDT
George Durkin, Gallatin County Roads
Sam Gianfrancisco, County Citizen Representative
Debbie Arkell, Director of Public Works, City of Bozeman
Brian Caldwell, City Planning Board
Lee Provance, County Road and Bridge Superintendent
Marianne Amsden, County Planning Department
Walter Banzinger, representing Bob Lashaway, Montana State University
Guests Staff present:
Brianne Rogers, Field Director for Senator Max Baucus
Rick Hixson, Engineer, City of Bozeman
John Van Delinder, Street Superintendent, City of Bozeman
Chris Saunders, Interim Director of Planning
ITEM 2. PUBLIC COMMENT
{Public comment limited to any public matter within the jurisdiction of the Bozeman Area
Transportation Coordinating Committee not on this agenda with a three-minute time limit per
speaker.
Chairperson Scott opened public comment.
No person commented.
Chairperson Scott closed public comment.
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ITEM 3. MINUTES
Chairperson Scott asked TCC members if anyone had any changes to the minutes of October 28,
2009.
Ralph Zimmer
Mr. Zimmer had a correction asking that the title of the Pedestrian and Traffic Safety Committee
not be abbreviated with a slash instead of and. (Page 2, section E.)
John VanDelinder
Mr. VanDelinder stated the minutes erroneously stated he is a member of TCC which he is not.
Motion and Vote to approve the minutes of October 28, 2009.
It was moved by Jeff Ebert, seconded by Sam Gianfrancisco to approve the minutes of
October 28, 2009 as corrected.
The motion passed unanimously.
ITEM 4. ELECTION OF OFFICERS
Chris Scott
Mr. Scott volunteered to continue as the chair if the committee sees fit. He also mentioned that
Bob Lashaway has been acting as vice chair. Mr. Scott then opened this item for discussion and
mentioned that in addition to electing officers, the recording secretary should be appointed for
transcribing and distributing the minutes.
Motion and Vote to nominate Christopher Scott for TCC chairperson.
It was moved by Ralph Zimmer, seconded by Jeff Ebert to nominate Christopher Scott for
TCC chairperson.
The motion passed unanimously.
Motion and Vote to nominate Bob Lashaway for TCC vice- chairperson.
It was moved by Ralph Zimmer, seconded by Joe Olsen to nominate Bob Lashaway for
TCC vice- chairperson.
The motion passed unanimously,
Motion and Vote to appoint the City of Bozeman for continuing of the transcribing and
distributing of minutes; recording secretary.
It was moved by Jeff Ebert, seconded by Marianne Amsden to appoint the City of Bozeman
for continuing of the transcribing and distributing of minutes; recording secretary.
The motion passed unanimously.
ITEM 5. TCC COMMITTEE MEMBER REPORTS
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No report.
No report.
A. Transit Committee Report
Gallatin County Report
C. City of Eozeman
Rick Hixson
Mr. Hixson reported that right of way is being obtained on the College and 1 I th round about
project. (Details hard to hear on the audio recording.) This project would be built this summer.
Mayor Krauss
Mayor Krauss asked for a report on the multi-use path going up College Street.
Rick Hixson
Mr. Hixson explained that he did not have information on that. Ron Dingman would be the staff
person to ask.
Ralph Zimmer
Mr. Zimmer asked about the status of the intersection at College and South Willson.
Jeff Ebert
Mr. Ebert said the next step is to take the concept of a roundabout at that intersection to the City
Commission.
Debbie Arkell
Ms. Arkell explained that the state and local Historic Preservation Offices have determined that a
roundabout would not have a significant impact on historic preservation.
Jeff Ebert
Mr. Ebert, responding to a question from Mr. Zimmer said that the roundabout would take
slightly more right of way then a signal.
No report.
D. Bike Advisory Board
Pedestrian and Traffic Safety Committee
Mr. Zimmer said the Pedestrian and Traffic Safety Committee met last Wednesday with an MDT
State Traffic Engineer and City Public Works Director Debbie Arkell, regarding how the
pedestrian walk signals on Main Street are operated. MDT will consider all the issues.
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Brian Caldwell
Mr. Caldwell spoke regarding problems he has seen with the pedestrian walk signals.
F. Other TCC Member/Committee Reports
No reports.
G. Montana Department of Transportation
Joe Olsen
Mr. Olsen provided the following updates: (Audio from Mr. Olsen hard to hear some
comments not captured.)
South 19 and College: almost done, finishing touches this summer
85 East to Valley Center: full construction this summer
(Could not hear audio)
Huffine Lane, 4 Corners: mill all four driving lanes, seal and cover
Bear Canyon west of the Jackson Interchange: milling seal and cover
MRL structure over Rouse: two year project
Future Projects
o pavement preservation in 2011 on Bozeman Hill
o Four corners north three miles down Jackrabbit Lane 2011: full reconstruction
o South Church and South 11 Ave. College to Main: pavement preservation
Chris Scott
Mr. Scott asked about a chip seal on Amsterdam and re-striping.
Joe Olsen
Mr. Olsen said coordination needs to happen on that project to put the signal and ramp in at the
same time for a potential new off ramp.
Jeff Ebert
Mr. Ebert explained the traffic signal would be at least two years likely 2012.
Mayor Krauss
Mayor Krauss asked about the south bound left hand lane (on S. 19 has giant holes with
manhole covers in them and people swerve into the other lane to avoid them.
Sam Gianfrancisco
Mr. Gianfrancisco said he saw an accident there yesterday and said there are five holes and they
are bad.
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Jeff Ebert
Mr. Ebert said he would talk to his project manager about that.
Mayor Krauss
Mayor Krauss said that he has observed that many people go slower than 45 m.p.h. (posted speed
limit) on 19 between College and Kagy. He was wondering if that would be a permanent speed
limit or will a speed study be done? The people at or near the speed limit are in the right lane,
with slower traffic on the left, in anticipation of turns. He also asked about the possibility of a
better pedestrian crossing somewhere along that stretch.
Brian Caldwell
Mr. Caldwell asked about the two bridges work on the interstate and the possibility of a beltway
around the north side of Bozeman in the industrial area down by the tracks. The half mile
minimum distances coincide with the spur line. Would the future work preclude an off ramp?
Joe Olsen
Mr. Olsen said he did not think the situation would change. (Could not hear further detail.)
Joe Olsen explained that the bridge design over Rouse accommodates the design for the future
work on Rouse Avenue.
Mayor Krauss
Mayor Krauss reported that the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) lifted the restrictions on
development on the Idaho Pole Site.
Jeff Ebert
Mr. Ebert said that with respect to the speed zone (on 19 the State will conduct a speed study
after construction if the City requests one.
Mayor Krauss
Mayor Krauss asked Debbie Arkell to follow up with the Commission to request that speed
study.
Lee Provance
Mr. Provance said he noticed ARRA (stimulus) signs on 85 east for reconstruction of the east
half. State secondary funds were on track for that project for 2011. What happens to those state
secondary funds, can they be looked at to do the west half?
Jeff Ebert
Mr. Ebert said the procedure for the secondary roads program is for the next priority on the list to
be dealt with as projects are completed. The ARRA funds are additional and help the secondary
program, as some secondary projects are pushed all the way out beyond 2020. The west half (of
85) would then be built after all the Counties get their next priority. They do have a project on
the west end ready to go and there is discussion about some future ARRA funds possibly. It
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depends on the next legislation. Mr. Ebert and Mr. Provance spoke regarding the costs of the
project and needs.
Sam Gianfrancisco
Mr. Gianfrancisco said as the past County road supervisor, that project was number one, eleven
years ago. That money just keeps disappearing.
Lee Provance
Mr. Provance said it has been on the books since 1979.
Chris Scott
Mr. Scott said for the record that we have been talking about Valley Center from Jackrabbit into
city limits.
H. Federal Highway Administration
No report.
ITEM 5. OLD BUSINESS
A. Urban Priority List Final Adoption (Arkell)
Debbie Arkell
Ms. Arkell gave background on this item explaining in October the TCC recommended this list
to the City Commission. On January 9, 2010, the City Commission then recommended this list
back to the TCC to be formally adopted by the TCC. Our top priorities remain the same other
than adding sidewalks and curbs to Willson and Church Avenues. The City of Bozeman is
proceeding with certification through MDT so we can design, bid and oversee those projects.
South 8` was moved up on the list. The water main is scheduled to be replaced in FY11 if
we have the funding for paving. She also spoke regarding funding sources. Ms. Arkell said
there is approximately 3.3 million dollars in urban fund monies. She also spoke regarding
infoitnation received from Carol Strizich that the urban funds would be reduced from $1.2
million per year to $805,000 per year because we had previously been receiving $435,000 for
high growth funds. The City did not realize that was just for the South 19 project.
Carol Strizich
Ms. Strizich said that for urban fund program purposes the state only needs the first several
priorities prompting a discussion on how the list should be adopted.
Joe Olsen
Mr, Olsen suggested that the list be given a time period for which it would be reviewed again.
Ralph Zimmer
Mr. Zimmer said the Pedestrian and Traffic Safety Committee met just after the Commission
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regarding the priority list. Mr. Zimmer asked whether the work on South Willson would be
extended onto South 3 as part of priority number one.
Mayor Krauss
Mayor Krauss said the priority only includes the urban route of South Willson.
Rick Hixson
Mr. Hixson explained that this project was never considered to include south of Kagy. South r
was reconstructed with urban fund money and there was not enough money to put sidewalks in at
that time. The community decided that would cost too much and settled for five foot asphalt
shoulders.
Motion and Vote to approve the urban priority list that was finalized, reviewed and
adopted by the City Commission on the 19 of this month with an additional item to review
the list in a five year period.
It was moved by Brian Caldwell, seconded by Mayor Krauss to approve the urban priority
list that was finalized, reviewed and adopted by the City Commission on the 19 of this
month with an additional item to review the list in a five year period.
The motion passed unanimously.
A. Babcock/Mendenhall one way status
Brian Caldwell
Mr. Caldwell said the Downtown Improvement Plan was finally adopted by the City
Commission and the plan mentions the one way status as something to do to improve the
commercial viability of downtown. The plan would encourage the Commission to pursue
discussions regarding ways to provide funding for a traffic study on those one way couplets.
Mayor Krauss
Mayor Krauss said that in addition to the Downtown Plan we continue to get complaints
regarding east bound traffic. Krauss said a major problem related to the one way status is that it
is currently hard to get east without cutting through the neighborhoods.
Brian Caldwell
Mr. Caldwell asked if there was any advice regarding ways to proceed with this issue.
County Commissioner Murdock
Cr. Murdock spoke about a traffic study that was conducted and a lot of discussion, two
transportation plans back. The downtown businesses at the time were very much opposed to
those becoming two ways. He would suggest going back to those minutes and traffic study.
Lee Provance
Mr. Provance said there was very little support and many people against it.
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Chris Scott
Mr. Scott pointed out that the prior push being discussed was to change the direction of the one
ways as opposed to converting them to two way roads.
Brian Caldwell
Mr. Caldwell said the current Downtown Improvement Plan was well vetted through the public
with a lot of stakeholders involved.
County Commissioner Murdock
Cr. Murdock referenced retired Doug We ire. (Could not hear the audio for additional detail.)
Debbie Arkell
Ms. Arkell spoke regarding the cost of the study. (Could not hear the audio for additional detail.)
C. Downtown Improvement Plan Status Report
(See minutes regarding last item.)
D. Other Old Business
Debbie Arkell
Ms. Arkell asked about the status of amendments to the Memorandum of Understanding that was
discussed during the October meeting.
Chris Scott
Mr. Scott said MDT has started the initiation process and it will be placed on an upcoming
County Commission agenda for signature and will also go before the Planning Board to sign.
Then it will be forwarded on to the City for signatures.
ITEM 7. PROJECT UPDATES
A. MSU Projects Update
Walter Banzinger said the Gaines Project and the Animal BioScience Facility on 1 1 111 will be
wrapping up around June.
Sam Gianfrancisco
Mr. Gianfrancisco said that the traffic light at Kagy and 11 has a problem with the left hand
turn. At 8 a.m., the cars going east turning north onto 11 Eh are backed up by 25 or 30 cars and
cars have to wait four or five signal changes. He feels the light has made traffic worse at that
intersection.
Chris Saunders
Mr. Saunders, responding to a question from Cr. Murdock said that light was a City impact fee
project. After study a light was chosen as more appropriate than a roundabout.
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No report.
No report.
See minutes from above.
B. Belgrade Projects Update
C. CTEP Projects
D. South 19th Avenue Main Street to Kagy Boulevard
Debbie Arkell
Ms. Arkell said there are some issues with old stripes and arrows and have been in contact with
Jeff to remove those.
Ralph Zimmer
Mr. Zimmer brought up problems with the timing and striping of the new light at 11 and Kagy
again.
Debbie Arkell
Ms. Arkell said the City would look into the issue.
No report.
E. Intersection Improvement Projects
F. North Rouse Avenue
Jeff Ebert
Mr. Ebert said design is still proceeding, there was a request for advance acquisition on one of
the properties and they are working through Federal Highways to do that. The project has been
split in two with Main to Oak Street and then Oak Street to Story Mill for the second half. The
Transportation Bill has expired at the end of September, they do not see funding until at least
after 2015 right now, based on current funding levels and funding received so far. Discussion
took place regarding the costs of the project.
No report.
G. 1-90 Improvements
H. 1-90/East Belgrade Interchange Report
County Commissioner Bill Murdock
Cr. Murdock said another 1.5 million was received from Congress last year initiated by efforts
from Tester and Baucus so we are getting closer to our shortfall of 10 or 15 million. He
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wondered if the TCC should send a Letter to the Highway Commission recommending that be
funded by the next Transportation Bill.
Jeff Ebert
Mr. Ebert said he does not feel it is necessary, but it certainly would not hurt.
Cr. Murdock reminded everyone that the interchange for the airport was a high past priority. He
said we have about 2 or 3 million in the bank and are pretty close, so he would hope this TCC
would still support that as a priority.
Motion and Vote to have the Transportation Coordinating Committee draft a letter to send
to the Highway Commission recommending that when they receive new funding they make
complete funding of this project there next priority.
It was moved by Cr. Bill Murdock, seconded by Sam Gianfrancisco to have the
Transportation Coordinating Committee draft a letter to send to the Highway Commission
recommending that when they receive new funding they make complete funding of this
project there next priority.
The motion passed unanimously.
No report.
I. TSM' Report
Other Project Reports
Marianne Amsden
Ms. Amsden said the last Transportation Plan indicated that a County Park and Trail Plan would
be done. They have been proceeding with that and are almost done with scoping and have done
a web based survey, eight stakeholder meetings, and public roundtables. They plan to have it
completed and to the County Planning and County Commissioners in June with final approval in
July. Ms. Amsden said that she has been looking into is preserving the recreation on current
gravel roads for alternative recreation and transportation. One idea would be a parkway
designation for roadways that are not used for major vehicular transportation routes. Ms.
Amsden spoke about this idea in detail and asked for input.
Additional discussion took place on this issue.
Lee Provance
Mr. Provance continued the discussion on the parkway idea stating that he does not feel roads
can be designated as parkways.
Additional discussion took place on this issue.
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Lee Provance
Mr. Provance provided additional views on this issue. Ile said right of way issues will be a large
hurdle to overcome. He said if he was provided a list he could research right of way issues.
Marianne Amsden
Ms. Amdsen requested tha
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Chris Scott
Mr. Scott asked whether Ms. Amsden felt it would be appropriate to have a draft of the plan
looked at by the TCC prior to presentation to the County Commission. Mr. Scott asked that a
status update be provided to TCC during the April meeting.
ITEM 9. 2010 MEETING DATES AND ADJOURNMENT
April 28, 2010 REGULAR MEETING
July 28, 2010 REGULAR MEETING
October 27, 2010 REGULAR MEETING
Motion and Vote to adjourn the meeting.
It was moved by Mayor Krauss, seconded by Lee Provance to adjourn the meeting_
The motion passed unanimously,
Aim. e Kissel, Deputy City Clerk
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Christopher Scotfthairpe son
Bozeman Area Transportation Coordinating Committee
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