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DESIGN REVIEW BOARD
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 24, 2010
MINUTES
ITEM 1. CALL TO ORDER AND ATTENDANCE
Chairperson Livingston called the meeting of the Design Review Board to order at 5:35 p.m. in
the upstairs conference room of the Alfred Stiff Professional Building, 20 East Olive Street,
Bozeman, Montana and directed the secretary to record the attendance.
Members Present Staff Present
Christopher Livingston Allyson Bristor, Associate Planner
Bill Rea David Skelton, Senior Planner
Michael Pentecost Tara Hastie, Recording Secretary
Randy Wall
Mark Hufstetler
Visitors Present
Mitch Bradley
Steve Locati
Cecilia Vaniman
Jeff MacPherson
Jeff Good
Jeff Krauss
Eugene Graf
Carson Taylor
David Jarrett
Randy Twist
Mike Hope
Andrew Maltzen
ITEM 2. MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 10, 2010
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Mr. Wall stated on page 4, bottom paragraph, the 2 sentence should include the language “tens
of thousands of square feet”. He stated at the top of page 6 “predicating” should be stricken and
the language “by setting the precedent of Kohls as a lifestyle center” should be included.
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Mr. Rea stated on page 6 in the 4 paragraph “it was the DRB’s charge” should be stricken and
the language “the DRB could help protect the developer”.
MOTION:
Mr. Hufstetler moved, Mr. Wall seconded, to approve the minutes of February 10,
The motion carried 5-0.
2010 as amended.
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Chairperson Livingston stated Item 3 would be held after Project Review.
ITEM 4. PROJECT REVIEW
1. F&H Building CUP/COA #Z-10008
(Bristor)
209-219 East Main Street
* A Conditional Use Permit with a Certificate of Appropriateness
Application to allow new construction of the F&H Building (Rocking R
Bar), expansion of a liquor license, and related site improvements.
Steve Locati and Cecilia Vaniman joined the DRB. Associate Planner Allyson Bristor presented
the Staff Report noting the request was for two of the four properties destroyed by the March 5,
2009 explosion. She noted the project site was ~14,700 sq. ft. in area. She stated the zoning of
the property was B-3 and was now owned by one owner instead of two. She stated the new
construction would not encompass the entire depth of the lot and parking, landscaping, or a
loading area would be on the rear section of the lot. She stated two options were being proposed
and Staff was asking for comments from the DRB for both options as there may be an
opportunity to receive federal funding which would allow the third story option. She stated both
proposed heights fell into the allowable 55 feet per the requirements of the UDO. She stated
Staff was overall supportive of the proposal and most of the design guideline comments were
positive. She stated two items had been highlighted for discussion purposes; the appropriateness
of the proposed floor to floor height of the new construction (Staff had recognized that new
construction methods would require higher floor to ceiling heights) and the proposed recessed
storefront windows. She added that historically doors and entryways were the recessed
architectural features. She stated the City Commission had reclaimed jurisdiction of the proposal
and would be the final approval authority.
Mr. Locati stated Planner Bristor had done a fairly good job summarizing the project to the
Board. He stated the uniqueness of the application was that they were seeking approval of both
proposed design options. He stated they were trying to make the spaces more in keeping with
the standards of today and attempting to enhance the downtown area. He stated he had observed
successful businesses and their presentation to the street and he had attempted to avoid a large,
flat façade.
Mr. Wall clarified the maximum building height of 55 feet. Planner Bristor responded the
maximum height was 55 feet in the B-3 core area.
Mr. Hufstetler asked the applicant to speak to the philosophy of using two contrasting building
materials and window designs, particularly on the upper levels. Mr. Locati responded that he
would use the word “complementing” as opposed to “contrasting” and the concept had been to
accentuate the definition between smaller, historic fronts and bring interest to the building. He
stated the two forms for windows played against each other and added an eclectic mix to the
structure. Mr. Hufstetler asked the material to be used for the window framing at street level.
Mr. Locati responded it would likely be aluminum clad in a bronze or dark color. Mr. Hufstetler
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asked what the view from Mendenhall Street would be. Mr. Locati responded that a lot of the
structures along Main Street were an open view from Mendenhall Street, but he thought the
majority of the north façade would be blocked by other buildings. He stated the concept of the
proposed rear sign had been to look historic since the R Bar had been in business since the
1940’s; he added not as much money would be spent on the rear façade, but it would still present
a nice entrance for the tenants. Ms. Vaniman added that the signage was not part of the current
application and would be submitted for review and approval at a later date, including the historic
sign designation of the original R Bar sign.
Vice Chairperson Pentecost asked Planner Bristor the status of the federal money available.
Planner Bristor responded Staff was reviewing the federal requirements, but would need further
details about the new construction on the site prior to those funds availability. Vice Chairperson
Pentecost asked what measures had been taken toward green building or conservation efforts.
Mr. Locati responded the electrical standards would be per the 2009 Energy Code and LEED
Certification had been investigated, though they had decided not to take that route.
Chairperson Livingston asked Mr. Locati what the anticipated material would be on the east and
west facades where they meet the rear facade. Mr. Locati responded the material on the east side
would be the Ariscraft material for 4-8 feet and transition to a colored CMU complementary to
the Ariscraft material; he added the west side would be the same materials, but there would be an
adjacent building so the Ariscraft would not be carried as far on the south facade.
Mr. Wall asked for clarification of how the building maintained cohesiveness with the Main
Street Historic District as he was struggling with the floor to floor separation; he directed the
applicant to a rendering of the proposed structure next to the Baxter Hotel and noted the second
floor would appear higher than the surrounding building’s floor elevation. Mr. Locati stated the
100 plus year old buildings had a height variance from newly constructed buildings. He added
they had measured the distance and were equal to or below than the existing downtown main
level spaces. He stated there were at least six historical buildings that measured the same height
from floor to ceiling as their proposal and added that, at the time, there were different standards
for those types of construction; the proposed ceiling heights of greater than eight feet had been
proposed to help provide incentives to possible tenants on the upper floors. He stated much of
the newer construction downtown was within inches of the proposed floor to floor separation and
the taller the windows, the better the light. Mr. Wall stated the proposed third floor seemed
massive when compared to the rug gallery. Mr. Locati responded that the block as a whole
contained some of the smaller and some of the larger buildings and the feel and design of the
streetscape would be helped by the proposed design.
Mr. Rea stated he was generally supportive of the application and it was tough not to compare
the two story to the three story proposal, so he would. He stated he preferred the three story
main level, but the two story second level proposal. He stated he was fine with the rear of the
structure and encouraged the applicant to look at the sign on the side of the BG grain elevator
(north of Montana Aleworks) as he thought something like that would be appropriate.
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Mr. Wall stated he would like to revisit the American Legion review as the DRB discussion for
that project had impressed him with regard to the proportionality of structures within a historic
district. He stated he liked a lot of the things about the building as proposed, but was concerned
with the massiveness and floor levels. He stated he appreciated the applicant’s concerns that the
upper levels be lit, but that was a concern of someone inside.
Mr. Hufstetler stated he would like to begin with an overwriting comment; a strong
commendation that the structure would be a tremendous asset if it went as planned. He stated he
was most interested with the street façade and believed the applicant had provided architectural
interest for the people passing by. He stated overall he was pleased with the proposal and he
hoped it went forward as planned. He stated he liked the two story proposal a lot and was
supportive of the historic sign being placed on the building. He stated he was not concerned
about the overall height of the building, though he knows engineering requirements have
changed over time. He stated he was concerned how the upper floor would interact with the
Montgomery Ward building to the west and suggested a different treatment of the window
designs on the west side of the new building as it was equal to the height of the other building‘s
roof. He stated the other windows on the front façade were not issues in his mind, but the west
side ones are a concern. He confessed that the proposed material distinctions were too sharp; it
wasn’t as much an issue in the two story proposal, but became more of an appropriateness issue
with the three story proposal. Mr. Locati asked if it was a color concern or a material concern.
Mr. Hufstetler responded it was both. Less contrast would make him less concerned with the
proposal.
Vice Chairperson Pentecost stated he agreed with many of Mr. Hufstetler’s comments and added
that the massing of the two story building was emphasized by the use of materials and colors.
He stated he had at one time had an office above the Powderhorn and suggested further
consideration of the window design due to solar gain, etc. He stated he liked the building
articulation at the lower level and preferred the two story proposal in that regard.
Chairperson Livingston stated he agreed with a lot of Mr. Hufstetler’s comments as well and he
was happy to see the project. He stated there were a few things that concerned him. He stated he
agreed with Mr. Wall that the buildings should be designed with the façade in mind and a sense
of proportion. He stated he thought the issue of floor to floor heights, at least the first floor,
would be critical in a sense of how the proportions are seen within the context of the downtown
fabric. He stated he thought that the submittal did not tell the whole story and he thought the
renderings were out of proportion; he stated he wished he could have seen a streetscape with the
line drawings.
Mr. Locati presented the Board with an expanded colored schematic streetscape; he apologized
for not including them in DRB packets as the drawing had been done after the proposal had been
submitted.
Chairperson Livingston stated he was not as concerned with the proposed height as he was with
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the band. He stated he agreed with Mr. Hufstetler regarding the contrast between the two
materials; he thought it would be out of context with the rest of downtown. He stated he did not
find the collage affect of materials appropriate as it did not exist on Main Street. He stated he
was wondering if the building were proposed as brick, would it feel more unified compared to
the neighboring structures. He stated he thought the Arriscraft stone piece of the JLF building
helped it immensely with regard to its presentation to Bozeman Avenue. He stated the
sophistication of historic buildings on Main Street was not being matched with the proposal as it
seemed more cartoon like. He stated he would love to see what the project would look like if
proposed all in brick. He stated that the historic photos of the south side of Main Street
contained the most massive canopies ever to help with the blistering heat in the days when there
wasn’t any air conditioning. He stated there was only a certain amount of window coating
before the glazing turned into a mirror and suggested some type of shading device. Mr. Locati
responded awnings had been included on the main level. Chairperson Livingston suggested they
should also be included on subsequent levels. Mr. Locati asked if the arched windows were an
issue. Chairperson Livingston responded the arch was a part of it, and that there was already a
lot going on with the facades with regard to other detailing.
Mr. Wall stated he appreciated previous Board member comments, but what he was really
struggling with was the transition of the building design from two to three stories. He stated the
three story building would become so much busier with so much going on and he preferred the
two story version. He added he did not think he could support the three story proposal.
Mr. Locati clarified that Chairperson Livingston’s comments were primarily with regard to the
proposed material and he thought if those issues were addressed, the rest of the Board seemed
fine with the three story proposal. Mr. Wall asked for clarification of the urgency for procuring
the federal funds. Mr. Locati explained the procurement of the federal funds would need to be
applied for in a timely manner and some site planning would need to be done prior to
application. Planner Bristor added that Staff had asked for timely review of the proposal to assist
in the procurement of those funds.
Mr. Hufstetler stated Chairperson Livingston had addressed his concerns.
Mr. Wall stated he hated to be put into a position to be forced into a decision due to money
issues as the site was within the Main Street Historic District and was a critical location for the
City. Mr. Locati agreed with Mr. Wall and stated money issues were only a part of the driving
force.
Mr. Hope stated it angered him off when Mr. Wall addressed financial constraints. He stated
part of the reason for the proposal’s expedition was to get the building constructed so they could
get their income back. He added that after the explosion, one of his options was to file for
bankruptcy. He stated the proposal was in keeping with the Downtown Plan and he wanted their
incomes and lives back together. He stated his concern with historic downtown Bozeman was
more than anyone else’s as he was gambling with his livelihood to rebuild a structure downtown.
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He stated a continuance of the proposal was a concern to him as it would affect his livelihood.
Chairperson Livingston stated he had expected the building to be proposed taller due to rumors
he had heard.
MOTION
: Mr. Hufstetler moved, Mr. Pentecost seconded, to forward a recommendation of
approval to the City Commission for F&H Building CUP/COA #Z-10008 with the following
conditions; 1) the materials on the primary façade be more visually unified, and 2) that the
articulation between the proposed building and the Montgomery Ward building be redesigned to
provide compatibility between the structures.
Mr. Rea stated he did not support the motion as he did not think the transition between buildings
was a big issue, but he agreed with the first part of the motion. Mr. Hufstetler responded he
thought the transition would be handled with the first part of the motion regarding amendment to
the proposed materials. Mr. Locati stated the material contrast seemed to make the building
jump out at you.
AMENDED MOTION
: Mr. Hufstetler moved, Mr. Rea seconded, to amend the second part of
the motion to include the language “that the windows on the upper west side of the front façade
not intrude vertically into the horizontal second story of the Montgomery Ward building”, and
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that all recommended conditions for the proposal be shown on the Final Site Plan submittal.
motion carried 5-0.
FINAL MOTION
: Mr. Hufstetler moved, Mr. Rea seconded, to forward a recommendation of
approval to the City Commission for F&H Building CUP/COA #Z-10008 with the following
conditions; 1) the materials on the primary façade be more visually unified, 2) that the windows
on the upper west side of the front façade not intrude vertically into the horizontal second story
of the Montgomery Ward building, and 3) that all recommended conditions for the proposal be
shown on the Final Site Plan submittal.
Mr. Wall stated he did not want to seem insensitive to the applicant, but his dedication was to the
City of Bozeman and the high quality of standards and design. He stated he had no intention of
offending Mr. Hope in any way. Chairperson Livingston added that Mr. Hope’s commitment to
doing a quality building downtown had been reflected in the Board’s comments.
The motion carried 4-0 with Mr. Wall abstaining.
2. Heeb’s Grocery Sign COA/DEV #Z-10005
(Bristor)
544 East Main Street
* A Certificate of Appropriateness with a Deviation Application to allow the
existing sign to be modified and to remain within the 15 foot required
setback.
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Mitch Bradley joined the DRB. Associate Planner Allyson Bristor presented the Staff Report
noting the sign issue had needed to be addressed with the previous application’s approval; the
nonconforming signage would need to either be removed or come into conformance. She stated
the original proposal was for a smaller free standing monument style sign; now it was the desire
of the applicant to keep the pole style sign, but lower it to the maximum 13 feet in height. A
remaining deviation was to allow the pole to remain in the required 15 foot setback. She stated
Staff was supportive of the Deviation request and it was a site specific case as the sign had been
in existence for 30 years. She stated the intent of Staff was not to set a precedent for allowing
pole signs in the downtown area. She stated the main concern was the galvanized covering
proposed for the poles and the sign should coordinate with the building design; she added Staff
was waiting for clarification of Galvaneal material and had assumed it would be a galvanized
material.
Mr. Bradley stated the reader board had been removed and the sign currently looked
disproportionate. He stated Tire Rama was currently erecting a new building making visibility
of the sign difficult from that side and he thought the sign would be improved by putting the
covering around the poles.
Mr. Rea asked why a historic sign designation had not been pursued. Planner Bristor responded
the Federal standard was fifty years of age, though the Historic Preservation Advisory Board had
discussed the option. She added that the “cultural significance” of the sign would likely be
difficult to support. Mr. Rea asked the reason for the height. Mr. Bradley responded the height
request was so the sign would be visible above the trees. Mr. Rea asked the deal with the reader
board. Planner Bristor responded the reader board was discouraged under the ordinance.
Mr. Hufstetler asked how the 13 foot height had been reached. Planner Bristor responded 13 feet
was the maximum allowable height for the zoning designation but the real issue was the
deviation to encroach into the required 15 foot yard setback. Chairperson Livingston asked what
color the Galvaneal material would be or if it was colored. Mr. Bradley responded he would be
amenable to matching the galvanized color to the color on the structure. Chairperson Livingston
asked if the structure of the sign was where the height would be measured or would the nubs at
the top be the height measurement. Planner Bristor responded it was the structural aspects of the
sign and would include the pole nubs at the top.
Carson Taylor joined the DRB. He stated the question of what would be done with signs was
broader than this proposal though it was in an investigatory stage. He stated incentives to make
approvals easier were in the process at the Commission level.
Mr. Wall asked if the nonconforming uses in the code were hard and fast regulations or if there
was a method in place to allow the use as long as it was continuous and uninterrupted. Planner
Bristor responded the code differentiated between nonconforming uses and nonconforming
structures and she would not be able to summarize the chapter this evening. She further
explained the code was specific with regard to use and structure nonconformities; she cited the
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lighting was reviewed for conformance with the current ordinance as was the sign. She added
the alteration to the building triggered conformance for all of the signage on the site.
Mayor Krauss added that signs were amortized over a long time so if they were very expensive
they could keep them for a very long time; the City had gone through four iterations of when a
sign must be modified to meet current requirements. He cited the Lewis & Clark Motel sign and
stated the City would prefer to see it removed.
Mr. Hufstetler stated the Lewis & Clark sign should not be removed. He stated he strongly
supported the proposal to keep the sign and he would like it more if the poles were retained
instead of adding the Galvaneal enclosure. He stated if he were the sign king he would allow the
sign to be taller and added that the proposed sign would be more visually prominent than the sign
before. He stated he did not even get upset about the reader boards. He suggested the sign have
a little more height and the poles be retained without the Galvaneal enclosure.
Mr. Rea stated he liked the height the sign was at currently and he liked the reader board; it gave
the sign character. He encouraged Staff to look at a cultural designation. Mr. Hufstetler added it
would not be out of place for the culturally significant designation to be approved for the sign.
Mr. Rea stated some of the sign standards for the City of Bozeman might be relaxed and he did
not think they were making the downtown aesthetic better with the proposal. He suggested the
sign remain as it is or at least work more closely with the existing design.
Mr. Wall stated he thought the proposed sign and pole covers were strip-mallish and seemed
boring and not extraordinary. He stated he liked the original sign better and he would like to see
an element of that retained. He stated he would like to see the reader board included as well.
Vice Chairperson Pentecost stated he agreed with Mr. Wall in some respects. He stated he
believed the sign proposed looked like a sign company designed it when an architect should
probably have designed it. He stated the sign company could have done something better.
Chairperson Livingston stated he liked the Heeb’s sign and was notified by Staff that the existing
sign height would require a Deviation that had not been requested through the current
application. Mr. Bradley suggested he preferred the covers be left off and the sign shortened to
13 feet. Chairperson Livingston stated there was something about the design of the sign that
made it unique. He stated he would like to see the sign shortened in its entirety and suggested
the poles be cut off to match the 13 foot height. He suggested the pole enclosures not be
included. Planner Bristor mentioned painting of the poles could be allowed. Chairperson
Livingston concurred. Mr. Bradley agreed that painting could be done and it would be cheaper
for him.
Mr. Wall stated his motion, if the project weren’t for informal advice and comment, would be to
retain the existing sign and put the reader board back on.
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Mr. Hufstetler concurred that the reader board should be included and the sign maintained; he
asked Mr. Bradley his preference. Mr. Bradley responded he did not think the reader board
would be approved and he would be amenable to shortening the sign and painting the poles
black.
The Board concurred that their recommendation to the City Commission was that the sign should
be shortened to 13 feet and the poles should be painted black.
3. Gallatin Center Lot 11-Best Buy SP/COA #Z-10016
(Skelton)
Northeast of the intersection of Cattail Street & Max Avenue
* A Site Plan with a Certificate of Appropriateness Application to allow the
construction of one 36,000 sq. ft. structure and one 10,000 sq. ft. structure
with related site improvements.
Andrew Maltzen, Randy Twist, Jeff Good, Dave Jarrett, Eugene Graf, and Chris Budeski joined
the DRB. Senior Planner David Skelton presented the Staff Report noting the site had received
Site Plan approval in 2006 for the same lot with four buildings proposed for the site; he added
there had been a Deviation request for more that 125% of the allowable parking at that time that
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would no longer be pertinent. He stated the proposal was within the North 19 Avenue
Entryway Overlay District and many of the issues had already been addressed with the original
Site Plan review. He stated the kiosk was not a part of the current proposal and the green space
and open space requirements had been met with the PUD approval. He stated the building
design would be the key issue and it would be difficult to fine tune what they were proposing.
He suggested the west and south elevations were where the discussion should be focused as it
was one of the few buildings with a southern exposure. He directed the DRB to the treatment of
the Ross building and its articulation; he added the current proposal had attempted to mimic that
articulation. He stated Staff was supportive of the west elevation but had concerns with the
south elevation and its exposure to the stream. He stated the southern exposure needed to be
enhanced to improve the street level interest and human scale. He stated there had been some
discussion regarding a raised crosswalk which would create possible issues with drainage for the
site; he suggested scored or pigmented concrete. He reiterated Staff conditions of approval. He
stated along the south façade Staff had recommended seating areas where there would be more
pedestrian activity. He stated condition of approval #4 would have the last sentence stricken as
the crosswalk had been addressed with scored or pigmented concrete. He stated condition #5
could be stricken as the applicant verified that use of a Dryvit was limited to treatment under the
main entrance and not along the facades of the building. He stated Best Buy would need to work
with Staff regarding the design of their signage prior to Final Site Plan approval and a
comprehensive signage plan would need to be included. He added the layout of the site had been
predetermined through the PUD approval. He stated no public comment had been received for
the proposal.
Mr. Good stated the design of the two buildings had been approached as similar to those existing
on adjacent sites to provide a cohesive design and he thought the buildings were tied together as
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proposed. He stated Best Buy had a strong franchise image that had not been maintained in the
proposal for Bozeman. He stated there would be two strong tenants in the electronics store and
the cosmetic store. He stated more earth tone colors had been proposed and no smooth block
would be used on the south or north elevations. He stated they would like the service corridor
between the buildings to contain split faced block along the site lines of the building. He stated
there had been some discussion of more emphasis and articulation on the entry; he directed the
Board to a rendering of the proposed entryway that included blue tile to flank the walls of the
curtain system to tie it to the Ross structure; he added he felt the emphasis to the entryway would
be achieved through the use of the tile material with the proposed design. He stated the stucco
would only be located on the sofit area of the Best Buy structure and the light fixtures would
match the existing fixtures in the development. He stated the emphasis would be put on the
southwest corner of the Best Buy building to provide for pedestrian amenities.
Mr. Budeski stated that the continuation of the stream concept with the sidewalk had been
incorporated into the proposal. He added that infrastructure and services and already been
installed and it would be nice to finish the lot off.
Mr. Rea asked what the blue material behind the Best Buy sign would be. Mr. Good responded
it would be a deep, dark blue corrugated metal.
Vice Chairperson Pentecost asked if the east elevation would have an intense exposure to North
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19 Avenue. Planner Skelton responded the east elevation would be shielded by the Bed Bath
and Beyond building.
Chairperson Livingston asked if the banding proposed for the lower portion of the building was
similar to the banding on the Ross building. Mr. Good responded it would be similar.
Chairperson Livingston asked the projection of the architectural features on the front façade that
included trellises. Mr. Good responded those features would project 10-15 feet. Chairperson
Livingston asked if the proposed glazing would be spandrel glass. Mr. Good responded it would
be spandrel glass. Chairperson Livingston asked if the windows would be lit. Mr. Good
responded the windows would not be lit.
Mr. Rea stated he was looking forward to the build out of Lot 12 and the pedestrian connections
to the site the development would bring. He stated he really liked the applicant’s interpretation
of muted colors and he was supportive of the proposal as presented.
Mr. Wall stated that, unlike Kohl’s in the Bozeman Gateway, the proposal was appropriate for
the site and the location.
Mr. Hufstetler stated that overall he was supportive of the proposal and relieved to see that the
proposed sign was not an eyesore like some of the others. He statde his only concern was the
ancillary bays on the façade.
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Vice Chairperson Pentecost stated he thought what had been done with the drawings was
deceptive as the heavy lap siding look would not be visible; the applicant had presented
something that would never be seen – it would be a CMU building. Mr. Good stated he thought
there was quite a bit of contrast and he could read the banding on the buildings from a distance.
Mr. Budeski added that the parapets would provide some articulation. Vice Chairperson
Pentecost stated he could be led to believe the structure would have texture, but if he looked at
the next building, the new building would not be textured.
Chairperson Livingston stated he would like to see articulation on the buildings. He stated he
was suspect of the 2 inch, pop-out, spandrel glass areas; he wished they could be display
windows or some other feature that was more expressive.
Mr. Maltzen responded that the store had not historically done well at display windows and
would become disconnected from the community. He stated another option used at some of their
buildings was to raise the windows fifteen feet to allow for light.
Mr. Budeski suggested Mr. Maltzen address LEED and conservation requirements. Mr. Maltzen
stated the building would need to apply for LEED certification, but he foresaw a silver rating
with the construction of the building. He stated he was in the process of including seating on the
front of the structures and noted that efficiency parking would be provided on the site as
encouragement to the community to be more efficient. He stated personal transportation might
be included in the store as well. Mayor Krauss added there were several electric vehicles in the
City already and the Public Library had been LEED certified.
Mr. Graf stated his wife was an artist and wanted to include a mural in the development on the
west side toward the north end of the building. He stated it would be framed by the split face
block and would be located on the smooth face block. Planner Skelton stated the mural had not
been submitted for review yet, but could be handled as a minor modification to the site plan so
the Building Permit wouldn’t be held up. He clarified that the mural could not contain business
names/structures and should be culturally significant in nature. Mr. Hufstetler suggested the
mural should be of a permanent nature so that it didn’t look crappy in the future. Chairperson
Livingston stated the side of the Eagles was fading a bit. Mr. Graf responded that his wife had
done murals before and would use a permanent paint.
Mr. Rea stated he was supportive of the idea of spandrel glass at a higher elevation on the front
façade and recommended it not be included on the west façade.
Chairperson Livingston stated he was floored in terms of what Best Buy was doing regarding
day lighting and LEED certification. Mr. Twist added that Best Buy was one of the leaders in
conservation efforts.
MOTION
: Mr. Wall moved, Mr. Rea seconded, to amend Staff conditions of approval with the
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removal of the last sentence of Staff condition #4 and the removal of Staff condition #5 in its
entirety.
MOTION
: Mr. Wall moved, Mr. Rea seconded, to forward a recommendation of approval to
the Planning Director for Gallatin Center Lot 11-Best Buy SP/COA #Z-10016 with Staff
conditions as amended.
Mr. Hufstetler asked how the Board would feel about requiring the applicant include windows on
the south elevation, though he would be comfortable recommending approval without the
requirement. Vice Chairperson Pentecost asked the reason for wanting the windows included.
Mr. Hufstetler responded he liked the idea of light in those areas, but would still recommend
approval of the proposal.
The motion carried 5-0
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4. Hastings Building B Façade Mods to FSP #Z-08244A
(Skelton)
1607 West Main Street
* A request for modification to an approved Final Site Plan to allow changes
including landscaping and door colors
Jeff MacPherson joined the DRB. Senior Planner David Skelton presented the Staff Memo
noting the proposal was for comment and advice from Board members. He stated most of the
members had the history of the Hastings site and Mr. MacPherson was the new owner of
Building B. He stated a 20% Deviation for signage had been the most recent request by the
applicant. He stated this had been one of the first projects with a double frontage building issue
considered by the City. He stated as part of the granting of additional signage, the DRB and City
Commission had the opportunity to revisit the façade facing Main Street and enhance its
presentation to the street. He stated the presentation of a storefront on to West Main Street
versus the presentation of a utility door and the masonry made it difficult to consider the
requested modification as a minor modification and in-house review by the Planning Office. The
applicant had requested a modification of the City Commission condition to include storefronts
on the south façade; he added the request was for to the Planning Office to consider other
alternatives in lieu of retrofitting the utility doors to a storefront. He stated the applicant was
proposing modifications to the south façade that included door color changes and the installation
of landscaping around the perimeter of the building. He stated that staff has determined that the
modification was deemed as a major modification due to the specificity of the City Commission
condition of approval.
Mr. MacPherson stated he had inherited, though there was an exchange of cash, the
responsibility of modifying the façade. He stated the requirement to include the storefront
appearance and spandrel glass with bronze framing was the issue at hand. He stated there were
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perfectly serviceable doors already and security would be a huge issue that would be a deal
breaker with Verizon Wireless. He stated he did not think the storefront requirement would look
as good as what he had proposed with the green doors; he thought he had offered an acceptable
solution.
Planner Skelton stated he had provided Staff recommendations to be considered by the DRB in-
lieu of the storefront doors, although at times there is a tendency at times where landscaping was
relied too heavily upon where it takes too long a period of time for the landscape to reach
maturity. He stated the if the landscape is considered as an alternative to the doors one might
consider the bar being raised with the level of maturity for the landscaping proposed for the site.
Mr. MacPherson stated he had no problem installing more mature trees on the site.
Mr. Wall clarified that, to his recollection, the DRB did not recommend the replacement of the
doors on the south façade with a storefront.
Mr. Rea asked if a deciduous tree could work in one location or if it would block the signage.
Mr. MacPherson responded he had no problem with installing a deciduous tree and whether or
not it blocked the signage would be determined by its growth rate, but the trees would be cut
back along the structure anyway so they wouldn’t block the signage.
Planner Skelton suggested the DRB carefully look at the overall vision of the conditions of
approval; to enhance the presentation of the building façade to the Main Street Entryway
Corridor. He added the modification of a specific condition of approval made the request a
major modification that would be reviewed by the City Commission.
Mr. Wall asked the possibility of getting vegetation along the drive isle. Planner Skelton
responded it had been part of the original approval and would be rolled in with the landscaping
around the perimeter of the building as a condition of approval. Chairperson Livingston asked if
the signage was illuminated. Planner Skelton responded they were internally illuminated signs.
Mr. Rea stated he was glad the site was getting better and though it sounded simple, he could
only imagine the difficulty with the replacement of the utility doors with storefront framing.
Mr. Wall stated he too was glad the site was getting better, but he thought perceiving the back of
the structure as a seating area was a non-starter for him as no one would go behind the building.
He stated he would rather see the money used for the landscaping deficiencies on the site and to
provide a vegetative buffer to mitigate the visual impact of the rear of the building.
Mr. Hufstetler stated he had only unofficially looked at the site in the last few years. He stated it
was an unfortunate building on one of Bozeman’s major streets. He stated it did not have two
primary façades and it would be disingenuous to attempt to make the rear of the structure look
like the front. He stated he agreed with Mr. Wall that the thing to do would be to landscape the
hell out of it; it would be the honest thing to do.
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Vice Chairperson Pentecost clarified that the condition of approval required the applicant to go
with a storefront; he suggested adhering to the intention of the condition by getting a full light
door. He stated it worked for him to paint the doors green, but it might not work for the
Commission; he suggested the applicant have a backup plan. He stated he concurred with Mr.
Hufstetler and Mr. Wall regarding the inclusion of landscaping.
Chairperson Livingston stated he remembered when the project first came through for DRB
review; there were great aspirations for the site as a whole and Building B was overlooked in the
overall picture. He stated it used to be a blank, awful looking wall with no landscaping. He
stated he thought the green doorway provided for the condition requirement and provided a
unifying element. He stated if no one used the back side of the building, the landscaping and
painting of the doors would make it about as good as it could get. Planner Skelton asked for
clarification of whether or not the Board concurred that the proposed recommendations were an
option as outlined in Staff’s memorandum. The Board confirmed their concurrence.
ITEM 3. ELECTION OF OFFICERS
MOTION
: Mr. Wall moved, Mr. Pentecost seconded, to continue the item to the next meeting
The motion carried 5-0
of the DRB. .
ITEM 5.PUBLIC COMMENT
– (15 – 20 minutes)
{Limited to any public matter, within the jurisdiction of the Design Review
Board, not on this agenda. Three-minute time limit per speaker.}
There was no public comment forthcoming.
ITEM 6.ADJOURNMENT
There being no further comments from the DRB, the meeting was adjourned at 9:03 p.m.
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Christopher Livingston, Chairperson
City of Bozeman Design Review Board
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