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Gallatin County Parks and Trails Committee
User Groups Roundtable: October 6, 2009
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ORGANIZATIONS, GOALS, AND LOCATIONS OF USE
Due to the variety of interests represented at the User Groups Roundtable, a slightly
modified format was used to accommodate the range in concerns and solutions. The
attendees began by introducing themselves, explaining their goals, and the location of
their use within the county. The groups in attendance reported the following
information (in alphabetical order by organization name):
Organization Goals/Purpose Location of Use
BAHA Soccer Creating a master plan for Gallatin County, City of
the Fairgrounds that Bozeman
includes soccer fields.
Backcountry Horsemen Maintain trails, increase Areas throughout the
trail etiquette awareness, county and the state.
practice Leave No Trace
ethics, and work with the
Forest Service to preserve
access to backcountry
areas.
Bozeman Area Bicycle Advise the City of Bozeman Cycling on trails and on
Advisory Board (BABAB) on bike and transportation roads within the City of
needs Bozeman and the
surrounding area.
Bozeman Girls Fast Pitch Providing youth with Bozeman
Softball options to participate in
sports
Bozeman Rugby/Football Getting field access for Mainly MSU at this point
Club players and finding an
alternative to the MSU
campus.
Bridger Ski Foundation Nordic Skiing access and City of Bozeman, Gallatin
grooming County, and Public lands
Citizens for Balanced Use Accessing public lands for Gallatin County, public
motorized recreation. lands
Fairgrounds Board Agricultural, animal and Gallatin County
community venue for
events and uses.
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Organization Goals/Purpose Location of Use
Gallatin County Park Addressing park concerns Gallatin County
Commission throughout the county.
Gallatin County Planning Connecting the various Gallatin County
Board established trails in the
county in a logical way to
provide better access to
recreation.
Gallatin Equestrian Educate and unite people Gallatin County, City of
Partnership (GallEP) around equestrian issues. Bozeman
Create multiuse trails, and
work towards creating an
equestrian park for
competitions.
Gallatin Ice Foundation Hockey and figure skating Fairgrounds
access to ice
Gallatin Saddle and Harness Using horses in a safe and County roads and public
Club sharing manner. Working lands. Areas that are flat or
to establish safer side trails with rolling hills and with
to ride along roads where water.
necessary. Creating trail
access to shopping areas.
Accommodating horse-
drawn equine users.
Gallatin Valley Bicycle Club Using and improving trail Both in urban/suburban
access for cyclists. areas and on public lands.
Gallatin Valley Lacrosse Getting access to fields Gallatin County in general
Gallatin Valley Land Trust Creating non-motorized City of Bozeman, Gallatin
(GVLT) trails for residents in the County
City of Bozeman and
Gallatin County
Gallatin Valley Snowmobile Snowmobile access Gallatin County and Public
association Lands
Girls Fast Pitch Softball Getting access to fields Three Forks
designed for Girls Fast Pitch
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Organization Goals/Purpose Location of Use
Hockey Access to ice Fairgrounds
Montana Mountain Bike Addressing political Anywhere mountain bikes
Alliance complications regarding can go or ought to go.
access to trails.
Montana Senior Olympics Seinor hockey in March and Bohart, Fairgrounds, and
Nordic Skiing in the winter other events around the
state.
Recreation and Parks Advise City of Bozeman on City of Bozeman
Advisory Board (RPAB) recreation and trail needs.
Would like to improve
communication between
the City of Bozeman and
Gallatin County.
Rugby Club Finding more flat green MSU
grass to play on.
Soccer Club Spring and Fall leagues of MSU, City of Bozeman
more than 1000 kids. parks
Working to find more
places to play.
Youth Hockey Access to ice Fairgrounds
CURRENT STATUS: WHAT IS WORKING
The attendees saw the county’s efforts to engage in more public outreach to inform
their planning process for the creation of a parks and trails plan as something that is
working. They also mentioned the county had many valuable recreational assets
waiting to be taken advantage of with the large amount of Forest Service access to area
mountains and streams, as well as many existing county parks and trails. What is lacking
is investment and organization. Another success mentioned was the Regional Park
whose trails and Dinosaur Playground see a great deal of activity. The plans for an
amphitheater in the park were also seen as promising. In addition to parkland
development, the Leverich Canyon Trail has been a huge success in regards to citizen-
initiated and maintained trail construction through cooperation between the Forest
Service and the Montana Mountain Biking Association. 4-H programming at the
Fairgrounds was mentioned as a success, and a huge “thumbs up” was offered to the
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Gallatin Valley Land Trust (GVLT) for their work to establish trails such as Drinking Horse
Mountain in the county. Finally, fostering cooperation among user groups and other
public land management agencies was considered valuable. The group recommended
pursuing the idea to canvass/inventory Homeowner Association parks as part of the
County’s update process.
CURRENT STATUS: WHAT’S NOT WORKING
According to the participants, there is also a great deal not working in the county at the
present time. Approximately fifty different aspects were identified, some dealing with
specific areas that need to be addressed and others that were more general in nature.
The following synthesized list is broken into (1) facilities and locations and (2)
overarching planning goals:
Facilities and Locations:
1.The Fairgrounds need to be fixed or sold or it will become a liability similar to the
detention center. When/if the Fairgrounds are updated, it needs to be done as a
park and accommodate a wide variety of users. In particular, better stock use
access needs to be addressed as well as driving and parking access to the Haynes
Pavilion.
2.There is a lack of guidance and policy for the development of the Regional Park
in addition to other county parks. A “my-way-or-the-highway” approach was not
seen as a sustainable response.
3.Leverich Canyon parking may need to occur in a “remote” site in relation to the
trailhead in order to accommodate overflow parking. This site would be best
situated in the neighboring county, residential area north of the trailhead.
4.The Gallatin Face Trail, as proposed by Terry Johnson, needs support at both
state and local levels to be realized.
5.Patterson Road should not be paved, but highlighted as a natural-surfaced
access to the Hyalite Foothills and South Cottonwood Trailhead areas.
6.Trails between Belgrade, Bozeman and Four Corners need to be developed in
order to provide the backbone for a trails system that gets people where they
need to go.
7.Parking and turnaround space at trailheads, particularly for stock use, is a
problem in the county.
8.There are not enough usable fields in the county and those in place are not used
efficiently. County parks should be inventoried and a scheduling plan put in
place for their use. Better field equity policies need to be developed that include
clear guidelines in regards to scheduling time.
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9.County roads need to include enough right-of-way to accommodate multi-use
paths. Existing roads should have their shoulders widened in order to provide
roadside travel by non-auto means. A variety of dirt and paved shoulders should
be the goal in order to accommodate as many users as possible.
10.Gravel roads need to be improved so driving them is not painful, but they should
not be paved so that they can still be used for recreational purposes. Paving rural
roads increases speeds and danger while decreasing access to nearby recreation.
A better solution needs to be developed (such as wide unpaved shoulders) when
and if a road needs to be paved that takes speed, safety, and recreation access
into consideration.
11.The county needs to require all subdivisions to install trails and to connect them
to existing trails so useful bike/ped travel routes are established. In addition,
recreation facilities need to be located close to communities and connected
through multi-use trails that accommodate bike/ped/horse/atv/etc.
12.Subdivision parks sometimes become “secret parks” even though they are
public. Better signage is needed to inform people of where parks are located
and which ones are open to the public. Homeowners Associations should be
educated about the rights to parks in their subdivisions.
13.The job of purchasing and maintaining recreation infrastructure often falls to
those who use them most. The money invested by the groups who take on this
responsibility should bear influence on how and when facilities they fix get used.
An in-kind donation “savings account” should be created with the county to
track donations made by conscientious user groups.
14.There needs to be better coordination among those who want flat, grassy places
to play organized sports. The attendees suggested forming a “Green Grass
Coalition” to focus and capitalize on combined efforts.
15.The lack of shoulder maintenance on roads is a problem for biking long distances
and for those who commute by bike. Rumble strips are also problematic.
Policies should be developed to prioritize frequently biked areas so they can be
better made and maintained for such uses. Examples include Huffine, Springhill
th
and South 19.
16.The Gallatin National Forest Wilderness Study Area is a contentious and difficult
subject for many county residents. The county needs to show support for those
who want access.
Overarching Planning Goals:
17.The lack of cooperation and coordination between the cities and county, as well
as between different user groups needs to be addressed. Coordination &
communication between federal, state, county and city decision makers should
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be a priority. Partnerships between these entities will improve parks and trails
planning.
18.There is a lack of leadership within the county to establish a vision for parks and
trails and a lack of support for much needed infrastructure investment. The
County needs to have a vision for the future of recreation in its jurisdiction that
includes clear definitions and an overarching plan. In addition, the county needs
to increase public funding of parks and trails, establish a Recreation Department
and create a maintenance plan. One suggestion for a funding mechanism would
be a $20 million bond for recreation infrastructure.
19.The economic development aspect of recreation needs to be considered. There
is great potential for events and facilities that draw people from outside areas
and get them to spend time and money here.
20.The misuse of parks and trails needs to be addressed with proper education,
enforcement and an increase in personal responsibility. Creative solutions for
vandalism, poop, and general maintenance and clean-up need to be developed.
Maintenance is a critical issue.
21.It is important to keep youth engaged through recreation programming not only
for health reasons but also to help young people develop into well-rounded
adults. The majority of the towns in Gallatin County have good trail systems, but
limited activities for youth. There is a growing need for activity-based youth
programming to combat childhood diabetes and many other issues.
22.The City of Bozeman and Gallatin County need to implement the recently
updated Greater Bozeman Area Transportation Plan.
23.There is a need for more trails that access towns for all users, particularly horses.
24.If vehicles have a “right” to public routes, so should those who are not driving
cars.
25.There needs to be a concerted effort to increase public education about user
group conflicts and trail etiquette. For example, the “startle factor” between
bikes/motorcycles/cars and horses is not well understood by most non-horse
users. Decreasing speeds, stopping, and proper horse training all need to be
promoted.
26.Horse drawn vehicles need to be better considered in planning for recreation
access. The use of county roads for training and transportation does occur and
should not be overlooked as the area continues to grow. Of particular
importance is the speed at which traffic travels around horse-drawn vehicles.
27.Proper signage at road crossings for intersecting vehicular and multi use traffic is
critical and should be addressed through collaboration between state and local
transportation entities. In addition, signage that educates horse riders or
drivers, motorized/mechanized users & pedestrians about trail etiquette that is
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multi-jurisdictional and aims to reduce user conflicts should be designed and
installed throughout the county.
28.Losing access to recreation due to development is a major concern and current
open space requirements are not always an improvement. The County
Subdivision Regulations should be changed to be more park and trail oriented, as
opposed to just open space. In addition, developers should be required to take
into greater account the impacts their projects will have on areas currently used
for recreation. On a related note, some participants felt the Open Space Bond
was misleading in that it was not being used to gain more access to recreation,
but rather to support private landowners. They offered that public financing
should be better defined in the future and, in the mean time, Open Space
funding should be used for properties that include public access to recreation
more often.
29.The county needs to plan for diverse recreation needs (bike/ped/horse/atv/etc.)
and work to establish more public access to parks and trails in all jurisdictions.
Remote access should be a goal as well in cooperation with the Forest Service.
Access closures are a multi-use problem. In particular motorcycles, atv,
snowmobiles, and OHV need to be considered. Access to recreation is also a
health issue that deserves more public funding.
WAYS TO ADDRESS CONCERNS
In order to address what is not working in Gallatin County, the participants provided a
large variety of suggestions. Inventorying all Homeowners Associations in the county
about their parks and trails was suggested as a way to begin understanding what is
available and what people are willing to do to improve certain areas. Open space,
trails and park lands were recommended for the “Triangle” area between Belgrade,
Bozeman and Four Corners. River access as well as ditches were suggested for trail
siting, though ditches were quickly objected to as nearby trails would present difficult
liability issues. A county-wide Park Maintenance District was suggested with a reliable
and sufficient funding mechanism, such as user fees and open space bond money. The
proposed “Green Grass Coalition” could also be a potential revenue generator. Another
thought was to access the hotel bed tax, which generates money for community efforts.
Participants recommended a joint government/user group “think tank” to meet on a
regular basis to share ideas, establish where needs exist and what funding sources are
available. It was mentioned that a good model for this kind of effort could be found in
Kalispell. In regards to road paving, it was recommended that if a road has insufficient
Right-of-Way then it should not be paved. On a larger planning level, the group
suggested the county take control of sewer and water in order to better organize
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growth around community services and mixed-use neighborhoods with good
connectivity of roads, trails, and parklands.
TO DO: Collectively
The group discussed who should be responsible for meeting these goals. On a
collaborative basis, they recommended better sharing and pooling of resources to
improve area facilities. In order to do so, differences among user groups would need to
be overcome. Education was seen as the best means to begin this process. In regards
to existing conditions, it was recommended that neighbors begin to work together to
address needed right-of-way in their area for a desired trail connection. Developing
models and structures that allow neighbors to collaborate would be helpful. Recreation
easements, utility easements, and trail easements in exchange for tax credits, for
example, would be of assistance. Non-profits such as GVLT were willing to assist with
easement acquisition. Proper leadership could also help user groups work together to
address maintenance issues and resource sharing. A county park improvement grant
fund may be a way to give support to community members trying to improve their area.
Working together in the meantime to create the county’s parks and trails plan was the
most important collective “to do” item.
TO DO: Individually
Individually, there were several roles for community members and invested individual
organizations to play. Of primary importance was educating folks about user group
conflicts, trail etiquette, safety and health. In addition, user groups saw it as their role
to help tie funding to uses, so recreation investments would be seen as a direct payback
of any public funding generated through levies, taxes, user fees, or any other
mechanism. The group agreed it was important to keep the economic benefits of
recreation in plain view of the general public in order to keep their support. It was
suggested that horse-drawn users provide rides for hire through a county-wide buggy
system to raise money as well as help educate other large animal owners about farm
and ranch trail easements. The goal to preserve the area’s ranching/farming heritage
was seen as a driving factor for connecting area destinations and neighborhoods, which
would allow for a horse-based transit system that would also accommodate
bike/ped./motor access. It was suggested the county engage in a financial analysis to
study user group needs specifically. The analysis should investigate the money
generated by different user groups vs. the cost of the facilities they need in addition to
their upkeep in order to answer the question, “If we develop y fields (or other facility), it
will bring in x amount of money.” Demographics and logistics should also be taken into
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consideration in order to best prioritize and situate new investments. A subcommittee
to deal with funding alone should be created regardless of what the county does about
a recreation department. Perhaps this entity could be under the auspices of the Parks
Commission. Priorities need to be set by the county in a fair and clear manner, not by
“squeaky wheels.” A trail corridor between Belgrade and Bozeman needs to be a top
priority of the County. It was also recommended that someone run for public office on
a recreation campaign.
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