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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2008-11-21 Joint City/County Commission Meeting LINKED MINUTES OF THE JOINT CITY/COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING BOZEMAN, MONTANA November 21, 2008 ***************************** The Commission of the City of Bozeman met in a Joint Roundtable Discussion at the City Hall Commission Room, 121 North Rouse on Friday, November 21, 2008 at 7:00 a.m. Present were Mayor Jacobson, Cr. Becker, Cr. Bryson, Cr. Rupp, and Cr. Krauss, City Manager Chris Kukulski, County Cr. Bill Murdock, County Cr. Joe Skinner, County Cr. Steve White, and City Clerk Stacy Ulmen. 0:09:52 A. Call to order Mayor Jacobson called the meeting to order at 7 a.m. 0:10:05 B. Presentation of Plaque Recognizing Joint City-County Collaboration Mayor Jacobson presented a plaque to the County Commissioners recognizing joint City-County Collaboration for the use of the County Meeting room over the last few years. 0:11:14 C. Recognition of Joint City-County Collaboration for the 911 Center Mayor Jacobson recognized the Joint City-County Collaboration for the 911 Center. 0:11:38 1) Possible Police station location on the L& J site. 0:14:00 County Commissioner Bill Murdock Cr. Murdock stated that he wants to make sure that criteria is set and that it must be set for the users of the L & J Center. It has to flow well. If Bozeman Police Department is to be there, it has to work well architecturally. He spoke regarding the jail and future expansion of courts and participation in a homeowners association. 0:16:08 County Commissioner Joe Skinner Mr. Skinner stated that he is not opposed to selling the southwest corner. The City and County would need to agree on a master plan. He wants easements and access to Gunther. There needs to be design criteria. He is not opposed to selling a115 acres. Need to agree on parking and roads. 0:17:40 County Commission Steve White Cr. White stated that we have a master plan for the site. The Sherriff has been on board with the master plan. Moving the Police Department to the southwest corner disrupts the master plan. He is in favor of a 2 acre purchase and a 3 acre lease. It is Important to have smooth flow and design of the area. He is not in favor of the southwest corner. 0:21:05 Earl Mathers, County Administrator Linked Minutes of the Joint City/County Meeting, November 21, 2008 Mr. Mathers stated that the City and County have worked together well in the past. This is important to the public. The County is in the process of getting an appraisal done for the southwest corner. The reaction of appraiser is that there may not be a fu115 acres at the southwest corner due to setbacks. Not sure what is available there. To him it makes sense from fiduciary standpoint to consider a lease purchase. Access to Gunther is a critical issue for the County. Flow is the overriding issue. 0:23:46 Larry Watson, County Grants Administrator Mr. Watson stated that there are buildings in the middle of the site. Requirements to move the DUI process center, all play into building a new jail. The northwest corner will be staged for subcontractors. We are losing parking in different areas for this time, need to use southwest corner. Spoke regarding how the site is accessed. 0:27:12 Mayor Jacobson Mayor Jacobson asked if the northwest corner is defiantly 5 acres. 0:27:30 Cr. White Cr. White state yes and referred to a handout pointing out the area. 0:28:01 Cr. Rupp Cr. Rupp asked that the County further explain the 2 acre purchase with a 3 acre lease option that they suggested. 0:28:10 Cr. White The 2 acres would be for secured parking to the north of the building and lease the other 3. 0:29:12 Cr. Bryson Cr. Bryson stated that the drawing show that we are not sharing common walls. Looking at the Police Department, access is more important than the Sheriff's department. There are two different time frames regarding the northwest and southwest corner. Timing is an essential issue. Is there any consideration that we swap places with the sheriffs' department? 0:30:54 Cr. White Cr. White spoke regarding location of the sheriffs' area. 0:32:01 Cr. Bryson Is there any process in place for access on the north side of the property? 0:32:10 Cr. Murdock Cr. Murdock is skeptical of access. !' 2 Linked Minutes of the Joint City/County Meeting, November 21, 2008 0:32:33 Cr. White Cr. White stated that the master plan was an early master plan. He spoke regarding a campus environment. 0:35:56 Chris Kukulski, City Manager Mr. Kukulski stated that the City was not involved much with the master plan for the site. What are the conditions to make the site work for everybody? 0:38:54 Cr. Murdock Cr. Murdock asked the City how they would like to proceed. He suggested a meeting with Mr. Kukulski, Mr. Mathers and that they sit down with the architect. 0:39:55 Mr. Mathers Mr. Mathers suggested that the Judges be included in the dialog. Their involvement is important. They need to be supportive and they may have valuable input. 0:40:54 Mark Tymrak, Police Chief Mr. Tymrak stated that the Police Department has committed that the exchange to the southwest corner can work. He concurs with the County Commissioners that there may be a problem, but we can work together. The biggest issue on the northwest corner is timelines. A decision needs to be made on site. He was tasked with finding other options. The West Lake attorney is willing to negotiate with City. We have an appraisal from the West Lake and the northwest corner. Access is the biggest issue on the northwest corner. 0:45:00 Cr. Rupp Cr. Rupp stated that he is not interested in looking at any other land than partnering with County. He is appreciative of the fact that the land that the police and court system wanted is available. He is not sure if we can afford it or what voters will do. We need to get the land taken care of first. 0:46:31 Cr. Krauss Cr. Krauss stated that there is no room for us right now anyway at the site. He supported the jail, not the master plan. We need to build the jail. Working together means the County needs to come up with what they can sell us. We need to look at the economic status. He is not sure that it is accurate to co-locate. Cooperation is necessary. 0:55:34 Mayor Jacobson Mayor Jacobson stated that we need to move ahead with the meeting appropriate stakeholders. Linked Minutes of the Joint City/County Meeting, November 21, 2008 0:56:38 Chief Mark Tymrak Chief Tymrak stated that he would like an action plan. 1:02:37 Cr. Skinner Cr. Skinner stated that he likes the idea of a meeting and should start on a clean slate. 1:04:01 Cr. Murdock Cr. Murdock spoke regarding the Gunther building. 1:06:24 2) Other Areas of Concern 1:06:28 Jail Bond issue Cr. Murdock thanked the City for the help with the Jail bond. 1:07:14 D. Adjourned Mayor Jacobson adjourned the meeting at 8:08 a.m. Kaaren Jacobson, Mayor ATTEST: U~ tac lmen, City Clerk PREPARED BY: UI Stac U en, ity Clerk Approved on p~~l 4