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MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING/WORK SESSION/AGENDA MEETING
OF THE CITY COMMISSION
BOZEMAN, MONTANA
September 29, 1997
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. The Commission of the City of Bozeman met in special meeting, work session and
agenda meeting in the Commission Room, Municipal Building, September 29, 1997, at 3:00
p.m. Present were Mayor Stueck, Commissioner Rudberg, Commissioner Stiff, Commissioner
Frost, Commissioner Youngman, City Manager Johnson, Staff Attorney Cooper and Clerk of
the Commission Sullivan.
The meeting was opened with the Pledge of Allegiance and a moment of silence.
Presentation from Joe Driskell. Alcohol Services. re letter of support for arant application
Mr. Roger Curtiss, Executive Director of Alcohol Services, distributed resource material
to the Commission regarding the proposed grant application.
Mr. Joe Driskell, Alcohol Services, requested that the Commissioners support their
. application for grant monies through the Board of Crime Control to create a drug court. He
stated that this new agency would provide an alternative to the typical penalties for violations
of alcohol and drug laws in a structured, supervised environment.
Mr. Driskell stated that under this grant application, Alcohol Services would study the
feasibility and need for establishing a drug court in Gallatin County. He stated that meetings
with several individuals from law enforcement, the court system and the Gallatin County
Commission have shown enthusiasm for pursuing this alternative.
Responding to Commissioner Frost, Mr. Driskell stated that "drug court" is a term for
the system created in Florida in the late 1980s. He stressed that it was created as a separate
court to deal with substance abuse. He noted that, in reality, it pulls the systems together that
. deal with enforcement, court systems and treatment for alcohol and drug related offenses. He
stated that the format of a "drug court" may vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.
Responding to Commissioner Rudberg, Mr. Roger Curtiss stated that Alcohol Services
recognizes that law enforcement agencies, the judicial system and treatment facilities are to
work together to coordinate sentences for alcohol and drug related offenses, however, in
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reality, many people fall through the cracks. He stated that under this
proposed grant, a
greater coordination would be provided to minimize those instances.
Responding to Commissioner Frost, Mr. Curtiss stated that including juveniles
in the
program is one of the options that stakeholders will look at during the feasibility study.
The Commissioners indicated a willingness to sign the letter of support.
Mr. Driskell
. gave the Commissioners a signature sheet to sign; each of the Commissioners and the City
Manager signed the sheet.
Signing of Notice of Scecial Meetina
Each of the Commissioners, in turn, signed the Notice of Special Meeting.
Decision - Zone Mac Amendment - R-S to R-3 - Robert Lee for Hubert M. Reid - 6.978-acre
tract described as cas No. 1829 (310 Ice Pond Road) (Z-97114)
This was the time and place set for the public hearing on the Zone Map
Amendment
requested by Robert Lee for Hubert M. Reid, under Application No. Z-97114, to change the
zoning designation from "R-S", Residential--Suburban, Country Estates, to "R-3", Residential--
. Medium-density, on a 6.978-acre tract described as Certificate of Survey No. 1829, and more
commonly located at 310 Ice Pond Road.
Mayor Stueck stated that he has received a letter from Mr. and Mrs. Hubert
Reid, dated
September 29, in which they indicated that they were unable to attend today's meeting, but
have given Mr. Bob Lee the authority to speak on their behalf.
Mr. Bob Lee recognizes the Commission's hesitance to approve the requested
"R-3",
Residential--Medium-density, zoning designation. In light of that hesitance, he estimated the
cost of on-site infrastructure improvements at $150,000 to $200,000.
He stated that, to
create a competitively priced lot for affordable housing in an area with no attendant amenities,
the rule of thumb is a maximum of $10,000 per lot for the on-site improvements. He noted
. that, based on these figures and the amount of vacant, undeveloped land available in the
subject parcel, neither "R-1", Residential--Single-family, Low-density, or "R-2", Residential--
Single-family, Medium-density, generates the number of lots needed to make a marketable
project. He stated, however, that "R-2a", ResidentialuSingle-family, Medium-density,
or
"R-3a", Residential--Two-family, Medium-density, would allow the number of lots needed to
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create a viable project. He stated that the applicant would prefer the "R-3a" zoning because
of the flexibility it would provide, but is willing to accept the "R-2a" zoning.
Commissioner Frost stated that, after looking at the drawings in the proposal and
walking the site, it does not appear there is adequate room for access to the site from Ice Pond
Road.
. Mr. Bob Lee responded that the City has an easement for extension of Ice Pond Road,
and it is wide enough to accommodate the roadway.
Responding to Commissioner Rudberg, Mr. Lee stated that concerns about the
continuation of the non-conforming uses and traffic seem to be the two biggest issues for the
neighborhood.
Further responding to Commissioner Rudberg, Mr. Lee indicated that use of the existing
warehouse structures on the site may terminate at some point, but not in the immediate future.
He noted that the two smaller buildings on the north end of the site, where the East College
Street right-of-way is located, have a limited economic life, and they may, indeed, be removed
to accommodate the proposed residential development on the site.
. Responding to Commissioner Stiff, Mr. Lee estimated the cost of the on-site street
improvements at $80,000 and the costs of extending water and sewer services at $60,000.
He indicated the rule of thumb for determining the cost effectiveness of a proposed
development is $10.000 per lot for infrastructure improvements. He further noted
that
doubling of those costs generally provides the price at which the lots may be marketed. He
stated that for this particular project, the estimated infrastructure cost per lot is $12,500,
which results in a market price of $25,000 per lot; and that seems to be a competitive price.
At Mayor Stueck's request, Associate Planner Saunders forwarded a brief response to
the applicant's proposal for rezoning. He stated the proposed "R-2a" zoning is substantially
less intensive than the surrounding uses, and the proposed "R-3a" zoning is also less intensive.
He noted. however, that either one of those zoning designations would allow for development
. which is compatible with the existing development in the area.
Responding to Mayor Stueck, Staff Attorney Cooper stated the Commission may
consider rezoning to "R-2a" since it is a less intense use than the "R-3" zoning which was
requested and advertised.
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Responding to Commissioner Rudberg, Associate Planner Saunders stated that the
subject property will probably be developed under a planned unit development, particularly if
the applicant wishes to retain the non-conforming warehouse uses. He then stated
that,
through the PUD process, the development must exceed the standards contained in the code,
and concerns identified as a result of reviewing the application must be addressed through
. conditions.
Commissioner Rudberg stated her support for the proposed "R-3" zoning, noting that
once the rezoning is completed, the applicant must determine if it is economically feasible to
proceed with any type of development proposal. She noted that the subject property is within
the city limits and she feels that developing it at the same density as surrounding properties
would be appropriate.
Commissioner Frost stated he feels the problems with access are great enough that
they cannot be overcome. He noted that since the two streets proposed for access to the site
intersect immediately upon entering the property, they cannot be considered two separate
accesses, and he cannot support development without a second access. He also forwarded
. his concerns about the potential of dumping truck traffic onto South Rouse Avenue, Garfield
Street and South Willson Avenue as a result of development on the subject site.
He then
stated that he reviewed this application in light of the twelve criteria as set forth in the
Bozeman Municipal Code and, because of his findings, he cannot support the requested
rezoning. He recognized that the "R-2a" zoning would be preferable to the originally requested
"R-3" zoning, but his concerns remain valid for that zoning as well.
Commissioner Youngman stated that she typically tries to find a compromise that is
acceptable to the applicant and the neighborhood and she typically supports development
closer to the center of the community, thus avoiding urban sprawl. She stated, however, that
in this instance, she does not believe that the application meets Criteria Nos. 2, 3, 4 and 8 and,
therefore, cannot support approval of the requested rezoning. She recognized that changing
. the zoning does not include a promise for development but "it's a strong hint", and she is
concerned about the infrastructure problems that have been identified.
Commissioner Youngman stated she feels it is unacceptable to put truck traffic on either
South Church Avenue or South Willson Avenue, since both are residential neighborhoods. She
also noted that this property alone cannot support the costs of extending infrastructure to the
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site, and the other undeveloped properties in this area are environmentally sensitive and should
be protected against inappropriate development.
Commissioner Youngman briefly addressed the history of the site, noting that the
existing non-conforming uses have existed for a long time.
She stated that the last plan for
those non-conforming uses has been expanded beyond the level approved by the City, and the
. ice house that was to have been removed still remains. She expressed concern that the
applicant has failed to comply with the items negotiated through the various processes. She
concluded by once again indicating she cannot support this application.
Commissioner Stiff stated his support for the requested zone change, stating that it will
result in a level playing field for the applicant. He
noted that development of the site will
probably be subject to the planned unit development process, which is a very stringent process
for the applicant.
Mayor Stueck stated
he agrees with the
comments made by each of the
Commissioners. He noted that he would like to see Ice Pond Road developed
and its
intersection with South Church Avenue improved. He
expressed concern that the promises
. made in conjunction with previous applications have not been carried out, and the ice house
has not been removed. He then stated that, because of the review processes
under which
development of the site must be reviewed, he can support rezoning of the subject property to
"R-2a", which will give the applicant a chance to determine if it can be developed in an
economically feasible manner.
Mayor Stueck reminded the Commissioners that, because of the petition of opposition
which has been filed, four affirmative votes are required for approval of a zone change.
It was moved by Commissioner Rudberg that the Commission approve the Zone Map
Amendment requested by Robert Lee for Hubert M. Reid, under Application No. Z-97114, to
change the zoning designation from "R-S", Residential--Suburban, Country Estates, to "R-3",
ResidentialnMedium-density, on a 6.978-acre tract described as Certificate of Survey No.
. 1829. The motion died for lack of a second.
It was moved by Commissioner Stiff, seconded by Commissioner Rudberg, that the
Commission approve the Zone Map Amendment requested by Robert Lee for Hubert M. Reid,
under Application No. Z-97114, by changing the zoning designation from "R-S", Residentialn
Suburban, Country Estates, to "R-2a", Residential--Single-family, Medium-density, on a 6.978-
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acre tract described as Certificate of Survey No. 1829. The motion failed by the following Aye
and No vote: those voting Aye being Commissioner Stiff, Commissioner Rudberg and Mayor
Stueck; those voting No being Commissioner Youngman and Commissioner Frost.
Discussion - direction to City-County Plannina Board re work Droiects for uDcomina fiscal year
. Mayor Stueck noted that during last week's work session with the City-County Planning
Board, several of the Board members stated an interest in looking at transfer of development
rights (TORs), off-site parkland dedications and an affordable planned unit development. He
suggested that the Commission direct the City Manager to write a letter to the City-County
Planning Board asking them to address these issues to avoid the potential that they might be
"lost in the shuffle".
Commissioner Youngman noted that transfer of development rights and off-site parkland
dedications are a part of the critical lands study. She also noted that the affordable planned
unit development is a part of the housing policy adopted three years ago. She then forwarded
her strong support for directing the Planning Board to proceed with these projects during the
. upcoming fiscal year.
Responding to Commissioner Rudberg, Assistant Planning Director Debbie Arkell stated
that the Planning Board is scheduled to provide direction to staff regarding the rewriting of the
planned unit development section of the code at their next meeting. She then reminded the
Commission that this project is designed to provide a unified planned unit development process
in place of the separate processes not provided in the zone code and the subdivision
regulations. She indicated that she will keep the affordable planned unit development concept
in mind as she prepares the new proposal.
It was moved by Commissioner Frost, seconded by Commissioner Youngman, that the
Commission direct the City Manager to write a letter to the City-County Planning Board
directing them and the staff to address the issues of transfer of development rights, off-site
. parkland dedications and planned unit developments during this fiscal year. The motion carried
by the following Aye and No vote: those voting Aye being Commissioner Frost, Commissioner
Youngman, Commissioner Rudberg, Commissioner Stiff and Mayor Stueck; those voting No,
none.
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Agenda Meeting - for reaular meetina and Dublic hearings to be held on October 6. 1997
Since this is an agenda meeting, only those issues requiring staff action are contained
in the minutes.
City Manager Johnson briefly reviewed the background information which was included
in the Commissioners' packets.
. (4) Project Planner Williams provided a brief overview of the application,
under
which an accessory dwelling unit is to be constructed in an existing residence in New Hyalite
View Subdivision. He stated that no exterior modifications are proposed, and two interior walls
and the installation of kitchen appliances are the only proposed interior alterations. He noted
that seven letters of opposition have been received, and some of the neighbors have been quick
to point out that the covenants limit development in the subdivision to single-family dwellings.
He recognized that the application may be in violation of the covenants, however, enforcement
of those covenants is an issue to be addressed by the neighbors in a separate action. He then
forwarded staff's recommendation for approval, subject to several conditions.
Responding to Commissioner Rudberg, the Project Planner stated that if the neighbors
. seek to enforce the covenants, which have been in place for thirty years, the Court will take
into consideration the changing characteristics of the neighborhood.
(5) City Manager Johnson stated that staff spent a day working on the proposed
annexation agreement, to ensure that all of the issues were adequately addressed. He noted
that three different options have been provided for one of the items, and staff is seeking
Commission guidance.
Assistant Planning Director Debbie Arkell distributed a memo, dated September 29,
forwarding an addition to Section 8 of the draft agreement, in response to a telephone call from
Mayor Stueck. She stated the draft agreement is based on the revised conditions contained
in the July 10 memo. She then reviewed the three options for Section 8, noting that Option
A reflects the applicant's offer, with one change to require that Durston Road be paved to the
. west edge of Bronken Park to avoid the potential impact of heavy traffic on a gravel road. She
stated that Option B provides for the installation of infrastructure improvements by a date
specific, with the improvements being financially guaranteed with a letter of credit; and Option
C provides for the installation of infrastructure improvements by a date specific, with the
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improvements being financially guaranteed by cash in escrow. She noted that, based on 150
percent of the estimated cost of improvements, the guarantee would be $3.4 million.
Responding to Commissioner Stiff, the Assistant Planning Director stated that the
applicants received a copy of this draft agreement on Thursday and have not yet forwarded a
response. She indicated that any response received before the packets are distributed will be
. forwarded to the Commission.
Assistant Planning Director Arkell noted that Section 9 provides for a payback for the
sewer main. She stated that the applicant has asked about paybacks for water and streets but
has not formally requested them. She then stated that Section No. 17 pertains to extension
of municipal services not currently available to the site.
Commissioner Frost expressed concern that Sections 3 and 17 are in conflict.
Following discussion, the Assistant Planning Director stated that she will carefully review the
two sections to ensure that conflicts do not exist.
Commissioner Youngman noted that in his memo forwarding revised conditions,
Planning Director Epple included some parenthetical statements in italics which she felt should
. be included in the annexation agreement to ensure that they are not lost or forgotten. She
noted that one of those comments pertains to ensuring this annexation does not place any
additional burden on the taxpayers of the city. She recognized that impact fees address some
of the services, but there are many others that are not, such as snow plowing, police, parks
and the library.
Commissioner Stiff stated he does not concur with Commissioner Youngman's
comments and asked that any proposed changes to the agreement be submitted in writing.
(6) Associate Planner Saunders stated the use of cash-in-lieu
of parkland for
improvements to the park within this subdivision was raised at the beginning of the subdivision
process. He indicated that the Commission has the authority to earmark the
monies as
requested under State statutes and the City's zone code.
. Assistant City Manager Brey recognized that the Commission may make the decision
requested by Mr. Daines, but cautioned that specific steps must be taken in doing so.
(10) Responding to Mayor Stueck, the City Manager stated that the
Recreation and
Parks Advisory Board will address this issue at Thursday night's meeting. He then indicated
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that he will forward the Board's recommendations in a memo to the Commission, which will
be mailed out on Friday.
( 17) Assistant Planning Director Arkell provided a brief overview, reminding
the
Commission that the application was considered by the Commission approximately six weeks
ago but, because the height deviation was not advertised, it could not be considered.
She
. indicated that the applicant has requested a one-foot deviation to allow a 14-foot-tall sign,
however, staff has processed it as a request for a 20-percent deviation, which would allow the
sign to be a maximum of 15 % feet. She noted that this will give the applicant some flexibility
on the sign height, but will not allow a larger sign than the 6-foot by 6-foot sign previously
approved.
(18) Assistant Planning Director Arkell provided a brief overview of
the application.
She stated that staff has reviewed the requested variance in light of the three criteria
established by the Montana Supreme Court and compared it to a similar application on South
Wallace Avenue a few years ago. She then stated that, following
review, staff is unable to
support the application.
. ( 19) Project Planner Williams reviewed the variances being requested
in conjunction
with the new signage package for the subject site. He noted that the applicant is seeking four
variances and, following review of those variances in light of the three criteria, staff supports
three of those variances. He noted the fourth variance would result
in the installation of
signage within the State Department of Transportation's right-of-way along North 19th Avenue,
which is not acceptable to the MDoT.
Responding to Mayor Stueck, the Project Planner stated that if there is a difference in
the elevation of the street and the elevation of the site, an increase equal to one-half of the
difference is allowed in sign height. He noted that, since
there is no difference in elevation
along North 19th Avenue, 13-foot-high signs will be required.
. Work Session - (A) Meeting with Desian Review Board
(A) Meeting with Design Review Board.
Those present at the meeting included the following Board members:
Kim Walker, Chair
Roger Cruwys
Paul Gleye
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Mara-Gai Katz
Ed McCrone
Henry Sorenson
Mayor Stueck stated the Commission is reviewing its communication with the various
boards and commissions and is attempting to address any issues that may be unresolved. He
also noted that one of the primary issues of concern is training for new board members.
. Planning Director Andy Epple provided a brief background of the Design Review Board.
He noted that the design review program is contained in the 1990 Master Plan Update and the
new zone code, which was adopted in late 1990 and was designed to ensure compatible
development and redevelopment in the historic districts and neighborhood conservation overlay
districts in the community. He stated that the Design Objectives Plan was subsequently
developed, to provide guidelines for development within the entryway overlay corridors. He
stressed that the underlying zoning regulations apply; however, under the design review
process, some flexibility is provided through deviations.
The Planning Director stated the purpose of the design review process is to avoid typical
strip development along entryway corridors and to minimize the impacts of "post World War
. II suburban zoning" on historic neighborhoods. He noted that a Certificate of Appropriateness
must be obtained for projects in the overlay districts, after they have gone through the
appropriate review process and received approval.
Planning Director Epple stated that Bozeman is the only community in Montana with the
deviation process, and the process is unique on a nation-wide basis. He
stressed that the
deviation process is designed to encourage development and redevelopment in historic
neighborhoods, on properties where the underlying zoning designation requirements are not
met, and he feels it has worked well and resulted in significant improvements in the older
portion of the community. He noted that, in the entryway overlay corridors,
superior design
is required in exchange for relaxation of a code requirement, and he noted that the process has
seemed to work well in those areas also. He stated that in most communities, exceptions to
. the code are granted through the variance process, which is based on hardship, and the
deviation process allows those exceptions based on contributions to the historic character of
the neighborhood or the entryway corridor.
The Planning Director briefly highlighted the composition of the Design Review Board,
which includes six professional and two non-professional members. He
stated that the
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Administrative Design Review staff, which is comprised of two staff members, handles small
projects in-house, thus turning those projects around in a matter of days. He indicated that the
Design Review Board is able to devote its time and energy to the larger and more complex
projects under this new structure.
The Planning Director stated that projects in the entryway overlay corridors
are
. reviewed against the Design Objectives Plan and projects in the historic districts and
neighborhood conservation districts are reviewed against the Secretary of Interior's Standards
and Guidelines for Rehabilitation. He stressed that these two documents
are designed as
guidelines and do not contain specific regulations or requirements.
Mayor Stueck reminded those in attendance that, several years ago, the
City heard lots
of complaints about the cumbersome review process, the Planning Board, the Planning staff
and all of the associate advisory bodies. He noted that, for the most part, those complaints
are essentially gone, except for a few comments about Design Review Board members voting
based on their "personal preferences" rather than the merits of the proposal. He then cited the
appeals by the Hampton Inn and the Bozeman Daily Chronicle as examples of instances where
. it appears personal preference was the basis upon which a requested change of materials was
denied. He then stated he has a phobia about comments on colors and materials
and the
requirement for a color palette in the conditions. He stated
that, unless the color or color
scheme is obtrusive, he does not believe the City should be involved in those decisions.
Mr. Paul Gleye stated that the Board typically sees projects for a second
time because
of budget constraints and the desire to use cheaper materials. He stated that sometimes the
change in materials does not matter in terms of the perceived quality of the project; sometimes
it does. He stressed the difficulty of reviewing a project for the second time with lesser quality
or different materials, particularly when it does not appear the project will be as nice as it would
have been originally.
Ms. Kim Walker stated that recently there was a multi-family unit on North
Bozeman
. Avenue which the Board originally approved with predominantly stucco on the front and lap
siding on the rear. The applicant proposed revising the finish to allow for vertical metal siding
on the back, stucco in the middle and lap siding on the front. She stressed that when this type
of application is forwarded, the Board approaches it from the viewpoint of whether it changes
the architectural quality of the project. She stated that when the Board deals with architects,
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their initial reaction may be that their egos have been stepped on; however, once they get past
that feeling, they often find that the suggestions from individual Board members may result in
a better project. She stated that she has not seen the Board members impose their personal
preferences on an applicant.
Responding to Mayor Stueck's concern about the Board addressing color, Ms. Walker
. stated that requiring a color palette for a project is a standard condition. She stated that this
is required because of the general language in the zone code and is designed to ensure that
intrusive colors are not used.
Mr. Rich Noonan, former member of the DRB, stated that when he sat on the Board,
colors were discussed in a generic manner, not in specifics. He noted that once the project and
all issues have been discussed, a motion reflecting the general consensus of the Board is made
and voted on. He stated that in some instances, the projects they approve are not constructed
as anticipated, and the result is atrocious. He cited the building on North Church Avenue, just
off Peach Street, as an example, noting that the metal siding was to be tinged so that it is not
reflective.
. Mr. Noonan then stated that he raised concernS about the proposed change in materials
on the Chronicle building because a vertical siding element was being proposed in place of Dry-
vit, which he feels is a significant change, particularly when a large wall is involved. He noted
that the architects on the projects have months to deal with the problems they encounter, and
the Board is expected to complete its review and act on the project in an hour or slightly more.
He recognized that the Board is advisory, but asked that the Commission back them a little
more.
Mayor Stueck stated that he gives the DRB recommendations a considerable amount
of weight because the Board is generally comprised of design professionals and he is very
interested in their comments and views. He noted, however, that he also considers the
applicant's position and any public comment when making his decision.
. Ms. Walker stated that the Design Review Board considers each application in light of
the criteria established for that review. She noted that a project may be beautifully designed
but not fit into the setting.
Ms. Mara-Gai Katz stated that she has seen some controversial issues while serving on
the Board. She noted that in some instances, the applicant is willing to consider alternatives;
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in other instances, the applicant is not. She indicated that during the past year, the Board has
made a strong effort to ask if a hardship is involved and, if so, they attempt to work within
those constraints to create an attractive project.
Ms. Katz echoed concern that architects may take months to prepare an application,
yet the Board is expected to take action in one session. She stressed
that each decision is
. important, and some result in precedents being set. She stated that the character of the
Chronicle building was important because that portion of the community is essentially
undeveloped.
Mr. Roger Cruwys stated the minutes are a condensed version of what happens in the
meeting, and much of the dialog which leads to the decision is omitted or condensed to the
point it does not accurately reflect how the Board arrived at its recommendation.
He
characterized the Board's recommendations as "group decisions".
Mayor Stueck asked the Board members if they feel they are receiving adequate training
to serve on the board.
Responding to Commissioner Rudberg, the Planning Director confirmed that the design
. review process is included in the 1990 Bozeman Area Master Plan Update, and the Design
Review Board was created under the interim zoning ordinance adopted in February 1990. He
noted that there have been some slight revisions to the structure of the body and its duties in
response to requests from those serving on the Board at the time.
He also noted that the
Administrative Design Review staff has been recently created, and that has taken the burden
of most of the smaller projects off the Design Review Board and given them time to
concentrate on the larger, more complex projects and issues.
Responding to Commissioner Rudberg, Mr. Henry Sorenson stated that he did not know
what was expected of Board members when he applied to serve on the DRB. He noted that
once he was appointed, he was given the Design Objectives Plan and the zone code as
resource documents. He noted that, with his strong design background and those documents,
. he is generally able to review a project to determine if it is appropriate and then be prepared
to take action.
Responding to concerns raised by Commissioner Rudberg, Mr. Cruwys stated that
applicants often submit landscape plans which were not prepared by a qualified landscape
architect. He noted that applicants recognize that if the plantings proposed
in that plan are
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inappropriate, he will identify the problems and they can be easily corrected. He noted that,
in other instances, a landscape plan may be acceptable, but he may make suggestions for
enhancing that plan; and the applicants are typically appreciative of the input.
Ms. Walker noted that the applicant receives input from the Planning staff prior to the
Design Review Board conducting its review of the application. She noted it is not uncommon
. for the applicant to submit a revised landscape plan or revised plan at the Design Review Board
meeting to address the concerns and issues that have been raised, She characterized this as
nobody's fault, just a factor of time. She noted that the applicant often relies on the Design
Review Board's comments and suggestions, enacting those recommendations. She stated that
the conditions imposed by the Design Review Board are monitored by the ADR or the Planning
staff, so the projects don't clog the ORB's agenda by coming back to the Board.
Responding to Mayor Stueck, Ms. Katz stated the Board has discussed training of its
new members at various times in the past. She noted that she was new in town when she
was appointed to the Board and a mentor would have been valuable.
Ms. Walker noted that when the Design Review Board met with the Commission a year
. ago, she gave the Commissioners a letter containing a set of suggestions to improve the Board.
She noted that one of those suggestions was for "senior/junior" members. She also noted that
the Board does not know when new members have been appointed; the new member is at the
next meeting after being appointed. She asked that she be notified when an individual
has
been appointed so that she can work with the Planning Director to prepare the new member
to serve.
Mayor Stueck stated the Commission has no right to tell the Board how to operate; it
is up to the Board to establish a process that allows it to function to the best of its ability.
Following discussion, Commissioner Frost stated it is up to the Board to tell the
Commission what it needs to make its job easier. He noted that
if that includes making
appointments effective six weeks after the appointment date, so they can observe a few
. meetings, that can be accommodated. He then noted that he served as
the Commissioner
Liaison to this Board for the first six years of its existence and observed it during its changes.
He stated that he likes the diversity of the Board, and he feels it functions very well. He noted
that the minutes are very helpful and allow him to review elements and issues of the application
that he would not otherwise consider. He recognized that in some instances, he votes against
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the Board recommendation, but it is only after giving careful consideration
to all of the
information.
Responding to Commissioner Rudberg, Ms. Walker stated the agenda is faxed
to all
Design Review Board members approximately a week before the meeting, and
the packet
information is received three to four days prior to the meeting. She noted
this gives the Board
. members time to visit the site prior to the meeting.
Ms. Walker noted that, as a result of this meeting, it is obvious that
the Design Review
Board is in the same place it was a year ago. She then stated that she
has been awaiting a
response to her letter from the Commission and has, therefore, not pursued
implementation of
any of the suggestions.
Following discussion, the Commission encouraged the Board to identify ways
to
improve its training and operation and then to implement those changes
through changes to
its by-laws.
Responding to Mayor Stueck, the Planning Director stated he tries to keep
the Design
Review Board informed about the Commission's decisions.
He noted that, because of the
. timing of the meetings, the Board members typically read about the Commission's actions prior
to the next meeting.
Mayor Stueck asked the Board for input on possibly revising the requirements
for one
of the architect positions to allow a draftsman or architectural engineer
to fill the position if an
architect is not available.
Mr. Cruwys stated he feels the composition of the Board is good as it currently
exists.
He characterized a draftsman as a non-professional member, and he does
not feel the change
is needed.
The Board members recognized that Mr. Walt Willett is a valuable member
on the Board
because of his construction background and encouraged the Commissioners
to ensure that this
type of expertise is included in the membership.
. Commissioner Youngman forwarded her concern that the minutes from the DRB
meetings don't necessarily reflect why the members voted the way they did.
She then
suggested that, just prior to the vote, each member indicate why he/she
is voting for or against
the application and that those reasons be reflected in the minutes. She
recognized that those
comments could be very brief.
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Mr. Paul Gleye suggested that the Board could make findings to support
the motion, and
those could be briefly stated and included in the motion.
As a result of discussion the Board members recognized that the Commissioners
get the
draft minutes at the same time as they do, and the Commissioners are not notified of the
corrections to those minutes. In the future, the Planning Director is to forward all corrections
. to the Commissioners, so they can take that additional information into consideration during
their review of an application.
Mayor Stueck thanked the Board members for participating in this discussion
and
encouraged them to proceed with any changes they feel will enhance their operation.
Discussion - FYI Items
City Manager Johnson presented to the Commission the following
"For Your
Information" items.
(1 ) Letter from Sandra
L. Figgins, 716 East Oak Street, dated September 23,
encouraging the Commission to better enforce current animal control laws.
. (2) Letter from Clara
Pincus, 2010 Springcreek Drive, dated September 22,
suggesting specific times for dogs to run free on trails.
(3) Memorandum from
Fire Marshal Chuck Winn, dated September 23, forwarding
information regarding occupant load programs in Billings, Missoula and Great Falls.
(4) Memorandum from
James F. Brown, Chief of the Building Codes Bureau in
Helena, dated September 17, indicating that no written consent from the County is required
for existing extended municipal building code jurisdictions.
(5 ) Copy of a letter
from the Department of Environmental Quality to Neighborhood
Coordinator/Grantsperson Goehrung, dated September 24, announcing that the City has been
awarded $7,900 in funding support for its demonstration project for local uses of recycled
glass.
. (6) Draft minutes of
the Beautification Advisory Board meeting held on September
17.
(7) Agenda for the Development
Review Committee meeting, to be held at 10:00
a.m. on Tuesday, September 30, in the Commission Room.
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(8) Notice that there will be no public meeting of the County
Commission on
Tuesday, September 30.
(9) The City Manager submitted his weekly report, as follows.
(1) Attended the
9-1-1 Administrative Board meeting last week. He noted that
he should have known today
whether the second grant application, for $419,000, was successful, but had not heard by
. meeting time. (2) Attended the City-County Co-op meeting on Tuesday, where topics of
discussion included the building code enforcement in the jurisdictional area and county-wide
zoning. (3) Reminded the Commissioners that the breakfast for Fire Prevention Week will be
held at the Fairgrounds on Monday, October 6, beginning at 7:00 a.m.
(10) Commissioner Rudberg submitted the following. (1) Thanked
staff for posting
the bulletin board next to the elevator, noting it is a visible location. (2) Acknowledged Streett
Sanitation Superintendent Roger Sicz for his efforts on recycling glass locally.
(3) Gave
statistics from the victim/witness program for the last quarter, which included 44 new victims.
(11 ) Mayor Stueck stated that he attended the dedication of the
new Habitat for
Humanity home on North 24th Avenue last week.
. ( 12) Mayor Stueck stated that he attended the Department of Environmental
Quality's public meeting on the Bozeman Solvent Site on Tuesday. He
stated that at that
meeting, he asked several questions to which Ms. Denise Martin was unable to provide
responses, although she indicated that she will forward answers from the agency as soon as
possible. He questioned why the City should pay for the monitoring of 52 wells
when the
existing monitoring reflects no excessive contaminants in the wells and a continuing decline in
those levels. He also expressed his frustration that Jewel Corporation
is not contributing
toward the costs of clean-up and monitoring; rather, the City and its ratepayers and insurance
companies have borne the costs to date. He then requested an agenda item in the near future
to discuss terminating the monitoring and clean-up efforts.
Commissioner Frost suggested that an executive session with Attorney Barry O'Connell
. and City Attorney Luwe might be appropriate prior to making such a decision.
Commissioner Rudberg noted that only three businesses and two residences are
currently impacted by the solvent site; the three businesses and one residence are on purifiers,
and the other residence is occupied by a 76-year-old gentleman who says he "likes the water
the way it is" and does not use a purifier.
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Mayor Stueck stated that at the present time, he feels he is being asked to make
decisions with large fiscal implications in a vacuum and without adequate information.
Commissioner Frost stated he feels the City is obligated to make the situation safe, but
he does not believe the City should be obligated beyond that point.
. Adjournment - 6:10 D.m.
There being no further business to come before the Commission at this time, it was
moved by Commissioner Frost, seconded by Commissioner Youngman, that the meeting be
adjourned. The motion carried by the following Aye and No vote:
those voting Aye being
Commissioner Frost, Commissioner Youngman, Commissioner Rudberg, Commissioner Stiff and
Mayor Stueck; those voting No, none.
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DON E. STUECK, Mayor
ATTEST:
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. ROBIN L. SULLIVAN
Clerk of the Commission
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