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Home My WebLink About04-01-25 Public Comment - S. Boyd - Public comment for Appeal #25033, the GuthrieFrom:Scott and Frances Boyd To:Terry Cunningham; Joey Morrison; Jennifer Madgic; Douglas Fischer; Emma Bode Cc:Bozeman Public Comment Subject:[EXTERNAL]Public comment for Appeal #25033, the Guthrie Date:Tuesday, April 1, 2025 11:02:00 AM Attachments:Rosenberg email standards for COA.pdf CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Attached please find communications with city staff affirming the standard that must be applied in considering the criteria for Sec. 38.340.090 - Demolition or movement of a historic structure or site, as raised in the appeal and in the staff report for the appeal. This specifically speaks to Sec. 38.340.090(C)2. Regards, Scott Boyd Bozeman Re: [EXTERNAL]Question about redeveloping a multifamily project From:Sarah Rosenberg (srosenberg@bozeman.net) To:sfmclboyd@sbcglobal.net Date:Tuesday, January 7, 2025 at 03:21 PM CST Hi Scott, I apologize if what I said wasn't clear. Same type and scale actually means the same - bedrooms, units, size, square footage, etc.. There is no threshold. Does that help? ---- Sarah Rosenberg, AICP Associate Planner | Historic Preservation Officer City of Bozeman LGBTQ+ Liaison 406.582.2297 Pronouns: she/they The City of Bozeman is currently revising its Historic Preservation Program. For more information, visit https://engage.bozeman.net/landmark From: Scott and Frances Boyd <sfmclboyd@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2025 2:08 PM To: Erin George <egeorge@BOZEMAN.NET>; Sarah Rosenberg <SRosenberg@BOZEMAN.NET> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL]Question about redeveloping a multifamily project CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Thanks, Sarah. I really appreciate the overview. Do you mind responding to the specific scenarios I outlined? Where that section says " redevelopment to minimum standards with a building of the same type and scale," are there any requirements or limitations on the replacement building scale? Could I present documentation for a replacement building that is 90% of the size of the original? Or does it need to be 95% of the size or some other threshold? Does it matter if the difference is 100 SF or 1000 SF, or does "same type and scale" actually mean the "same"? Along a similar vein, do you know if the replacement units need to be the same size or of similar size, or are you just looking at the overall footprint of the building when making your determination? Do I need to even disclose that in the plans? For example, if the existing units averaged 600 square feet and my plans for a replacement building contained units that were only 480 SF, would that matter? Thanks, Scott On Tuesday, January 7, 2025 at 02:59:04 PM CST, Sarah Rosenberg <srosenberg@bozeman.net> wrote: Hi Scott, Any structure within the NCOD requires a certificate of appropriateness application and if you are proposing demolition, also a demolition application. You can find more information about 4/1/25, 9:22 AM AT&T Yahoo Mail - Re: [EXTERNAL]Question about redeveloping a multifamily project about:blank 1/3 our planning applications, checklists, and process on the website. Depending on if the structure is considered a historic structure or not would determine what criteria you would have to meet. You can find out the status on the historic preservation inventory map. If the inventory is more than 10 years old, we usually require an updated inventory form. If the structure is considered contributing or eligible, it is a historic structure and falls under 38.340.090. If it is noncontributing or noneligible, then it falls under 38.340.100. Redevelopment to minimum standards means that you are building the same type and size of structure that meets building code standards. We would need to see that whatever exists currently, if you were to build it the same under current building code that the cost of the repair and/or rehab to bring the structure to a habitable condition exceeds the cost of demolition of existing building and the new construction. Habitable condition means that it must be safe and livable meaning that it has structural integrity, adequate plumbing, heating, electrical, etc. to ensure the health and safety of occupants. Usually this is submitted via a structural and building assessment. You need to argue that the existing structure needs to have enough upgrades to make it more habitable than how it exists today. Let me know if you have any other questions. Cheers, ---- Sarah Rosenberg, AICP Associate Planner | Historic Preservation Officer City of Bozeman LGBTQ+ Liaison 406.582.2297 Pronouns: she/they The City of Bozeman is currently revising its Historic Preservation Program. For more information, visit https://engage.bozeman.net/landmark From: Erin George <egeorge@BOZEMAN.NET> Sent: Monday, January 6, 2025 1:00 PM To: Scott and Frances Boyd <sfmclboyd@sbcglobal.net> Cc: Sarah Rosenberg <SRosenberg@BOZEMAN.NET> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL]Question about redeveloping a multifamily project Hello Scott, Thanks for reaching out. I’m copying our Historic Preservation Officer Sarah Rosenberg. She’s an expert on that code section and will be able to answer your questions. Sincerely, Erin George, AICP Director | Community Development City of Bozeman | 20 East Olive St. | P.O. Box 1230 | Bozeman, MT 59771 P: 406.582.2260 | E: egeorge@bozeman.net | From: Scott and Frances Boyd <sfmclboyd@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Monday, January 6, 2025 12:46 PM To: Erin George <egeorge@BOZEMAN.NET> Subject: [EXTERNAL]Question about redeveloping a multifamily project 4/1/25, 9:22 AM AT&T Yahoo Mail - Re: [EXTERNAL]Question about redeveloping a multifamily project about:blank 2/3 CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Erin, I'm thinking of redeveloping a multifamily project within the NCOD off of Babcock. I'm considering tearing down the existing structure and replacing it with a new one, and I'd like to know what is necessary per BMC Sec. 38.340.90.C.2. Where that section says " redevelopment to minimum standards with a building of the same type and scale," are there any requirements or limitations on the replacement building scale? Could I present documentation for a replacement building that is 90% of the size of the original? Or does it need to be 95% of the size or some other threshold? Does it matter if the difference is 100 SF or 1000 SF, or does "same type and scale" actually mean the "same"? Along a similar vein, do you know if the replacement units need to be the same size or of similar size, or are you just looking at the overall footprint of the building when making your determination? Do I need to even disclose that in the plans? For example, if the existing units averaged 600 square feet and my plans for a replacement building contained units that were only 480 SF, would that matter? Finally, where that section says "costs of repair and/or rehabilitation to bring the structure to a habitable condition," do I need to apply the same standards when determining the costs of repair and/or rehabilitation that I do in my proposed new structure? If I'm reading it correctly the new structure only needs to be redeveloped to minimum standards but doesn't say anything about how I propose the repair/rehabilitation. Do you reconcile the differences and standards between the documentation that I provide? Thanks in advance! Scott Boyd City of Bozeman emails are subject to the Right to Know provisions of Montana’s Constitution (Art. II, Sect. 9) and may be considered a “public record” pursuant to Title 2, Chpt. 6, Montana Code Annotated. As such, this email, its sender and receiver, and the contents may be available for public disclosure and will be retained pursuant to the City’s record retention policies. Emails that contain confidential information such as information related to individual privacy may be protected from disclosure under law. City of Bozeman emails are subject to the Right to Know provisions of Montana’s Constitution (Art. II, Sect. 9) and may be considered a “public record” pursuant to Title 2, Chpt. 6, Montana Code Annotated. As such, this email, its sender and receiver, and the contents may be available for public disclosure and will be retained pursuant to the City’s record retention policies. Emails that contain confidential information such as information related to individual privacy may be protected from disclosure under law. 4/1/25, 9:22 AM AT&T Yahoo Mail - Re: [EXTERNAL]Question about redeveloping a multifamily project about:blank 3/3