HomeMy WebLinkAbout06-17-24 Public Comment - G. & S. Vidmar - Haprper's Corner Annexation ce
Greg and Shannon Vidmar
2210 Watts Lane
Bozeman, MT 59718
June 13, 2024,
Bozeman City Commission
121 North Rouse
Bozeman, MT 59771-1230
Re: Written Protest to Harper's Corner Annexation,Application 423127
for R4 (Residential High Density) zoning
Dear City Commissioners:
Gregory B.Vidmar and Shannon M.Vidmar are the owners and joint tenants
in common with right of survivorship of the residential home located at 2210 Watts
Lane, Bozeman, MT. We have lived at this property for 22 years. Our property is in
direct view and with-in 100 feet of the proposed Harper's Corner Annexation,
Application 23127.
We protest and are opposed to this application for R-3/ R4 zoning because it
does not meet the criteria according to the Montana Code Annotated, 76-2-304,item
2d. This proposal will significantly change "the characteristics of the district and its
peculiar suitability for particular uses. The application does not taper the
development in setbacks or appreciable height off Hidden Valley Road.
In addition,at the January 23, 2024 commission meeting, the developer was
asked to meet with the adjacent landowners and work with our concerns about the
proposed Harpers Corner Annexation and make some compromise in his next
application.The developer has turned in a revised request, however,the letter he
turned in on May 7, 2024 is filled with errors. Yes, he wrote a narrative,but only
his "intent"is stated,and many of his recollections of our Feb 8th meeting are not
accurate.
On February 8, 2024,Jon Knokey and Drew Russell met with a group of the
adjacent landowners at Ray and Mary Seed's house to discuss the Harpers Corner
Project. We voiced our concerns mostly setbacks,high-density height,traffic,water
and they explained their history as developers. On February 16,we as a group sent
Jon Knokey an email (see attached 1) suggesting a compromise. Jon Knokey
answered our email and wrote up a narrative that summarized his idea of the
meeting which had numerous misleading statements.
In response,the adjacent landowners revised our request and sent Jon
Knokey a second email on March 7 (see attached 2) with suggestions towards a
compromise. Jon responded saying that he would do many of these items in the
preliminary plat stage and that we just had to trust his "intent"at this stage of the
process.
We again responded to Jon Knokey and asked to put these items in writing in
a way that stays with the property in the future regardless who the owner is. We
suggested to have a legal agreement written up that is recorded on the Harper's
Corner property stating areas of setback, height, and density restrictions. Jon
responded again saying that if he did that any future zoning would override these
restrictions and he would not go down this road. Based on this we hired legal
council to research the ideas of placing restrictions on a property and make sure
these restrictions would stand up to future zoning and be enforceable (see attached
3 - letter from Erin Arnold).
I sent Jon Knokey an email with Erin Arnold's letter asking him to consider
this option along with other options including the entire application R-3. On April
15, 2024, 1 followed up and talked to him twice on the phone after he reviewed the
letter and he said that he would not pursue this action and that it is what it is. Jon
said he will not continue down this path and that if we protest the development, he
will NOT bring us to the next level of discussions.
We ask you as commissioners to consider the effort we as adjacent property
owners have gone to trying to find a compromise with the developers when you
vote. Our goal was to find a settlement and support Jon Knokey's application.
However,based on his many written errors, this did not happen so our hand to
protest is forced.
Yours sincerely,
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Gre oiy B. Vidmar Shannon M. Vidmar
From: Mary Seed <mary.s.seed(@g_mail.com>
Date: Friday, February 16, 2024 at 11:20 AM �� �
To: Greg Vidmar<vidmarconstructionPlittleappletech.com>, <taptout(@gmail.com>, Brandon Beamer
<brandon.beamer(a)gmail.com>,<beamer.christy(@gmail.com>, Deanna Campbell
<d,campbe11999QgmaiI,com>,Jon Knokey<ion,knokey(@g_mail.com>
Subject: proposal for Harper Corner
Dear Jon and Drew,
Thank you for meeting with the neighbors last Thursday. We found it helpful, and it also left us with some
unanswered questions.Therefore,we met in person with Deputy Mayor Morrison and spoke on the telephone to
Commissioner Madgic and Elizabeth Cramblet to clarify our questions. Here's what we learned:
1. The Planning Department has worked with split or tapered zoning in the past and it is possible to make
adjustments to the roads and infrastructure in order to help you with your layout during the planning
designing stage.According to Commissioner Madgic, this is not uncommon.
2. It is possible to set up an Annexation Agreement which specifies in advance the amount of open space
and building height limits on Hidden Valley Road and the southwest corner adjacent to Deanna
Campbell's property.The Annexation Agreement is binding to the property, if you decide to sell the
property at a future date. The city recently approved an Annexation Agreement for the Canyon Gate
Project. Elizabeth Cramblet would be a good resource.
3. If the property is not zoned,The City Commissioners can assign zoning but this is rarely done.They could
assign R3 just as well as REMU.
With this information, we would like to propose that you apply for R4 zoning on the 20 acre tract on the eastside
of Harper Corner and R2 zoning on the 20 acre tract westside of Harper Corner.We would like an Annexation
Agreement outlining the amount of open space, which includes protection of the creek, and a height limit and
setbacks for buildings close to the open space to the west,and the southwest of the Harper Corner property.
Our intent is a win/win for you,the developers and the surrounding property owners.We look forward to hearing
from you.
Please refer any questions to Greg by phone,406-580-7463 or email, vidmarconstruction(@littleappietech.com.
Mary and Ray will be out of town and will have limited service for the next 3 weeks.
Sincerely,
Ray and Mary Seed, Greg and Shannon Vidmar, Brandon and Christy Beamer, Dale Lilleford, Deanna Campbell
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From:Greg Vidmar<ujrlrni�rronstruction Ca)little appletech com> AT "
Date:Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 8:01 AM
To:Jon K<icn.knokey a gm2il com>
Subject: harpers corner application
Jon,
Thank you for taking the time to talk to me yesterday evening,
So I now understand that you dropped off or e-mailed the most current"Harpers Corner Preliminary Annexation
Statement" from the e-mail 2./29/2024, to the city planners Monday 3/4/2024 asking there( Elizabeth Cramblet
and others) to review the contents and how to include your" plan intentions"into the application you are
turning in the next week or so for the property zoning request. As of yesterday you mentioned you have not heard
anything back and your reason for turning this in was so that you got assurance from the city prior to filling out the
application and that your"plan "items were worded correctly and that the city would accept/honor your
requests. One major point you made was that you want to design the development with a 100 foot set back from
Hidden Valley road and parts of the southern border but you want to be absolutely sure your are giving credit for
the portion of this property over the required set of 65 feet goes toward the open space requirement for the
development. Further more you did say that once you get answers from the city and revise your application as
noted you would make it available for us the adjacent property owners to review prior to the next city Commission
meeting. We appreciate you being as transparent as possible.
The position of the majority of the adjacent property owners is that if you are able to put all of your plan
intentions per the "Harpers Corner Annexation Statement"in writing with this application , as we understand
that will continue with the development of the property forever.
Then you will have our support. Otherwise we reserve the right to protest and/or renegotiate.
We believe our position is based on the last few weeks of negotiations with You and Drew and communications
with the city commissioners.
As YOU stated in your last e-mail we need to work together.
Thank you
Greg Vidmar
CC:watts lane neighbors
Shannon and Greg Vidmar --
Mary and Ray seed
Deanna Campbell
Dale Lillejord
Brandon and Christy Beamer
Don Kent/Kevin Kent
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GALLIK & BREMER, P.C.
Attorneys at Law
777 East Main Street, Suite 203
Post Office Box 70
Bozeman, Montana 59771-0070
April 12, 2024
Mary Seed BY EMAIL ONLY
2380 Watts Lane
Bozeman, MT 59718
marv.s.seed(&gmail.com
RE: Harper's Corner Development
Dear Mary,
You asked for an opinion whether the landowner of the proposed Harper's Corner Zone Map
Amendment(ZMA) can place private restrictions on the use and development of the real property,
notwithstanding the pending annexation and ZMA. The short answer is "yes." The developer is
free to place such restrictions on the real property,just like any other landowner.
A landowner can place restrictions on their real property to limit the intensity of development,
such as setbacks, height restrictions, and building density. This can occur before or after
annexation or a zone change. The restrictions can be created by written agreement and recorded in
the land records, similar to the covenants routinely recorded by homeowners' associations.
Potential conflicts with zoning do not preclude private covenants. Instead, covenants routinely
include a clause that, in the case of a conflict with applicable zoning,the more restrictive provision
controls. This also is a common clause in zoning regulations.
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Furthermore, zoning and private covenants do frequently conflict. Private covenants are often
more restrictive, prohibiting a use or standard that is allowed by zoning. The zoning does not
abrogate the private covenant.2 Instead, enforcement then falls on the private parties to the
covenants. The need for private enforcement does not preclude the covenants in the first place.
The Bozeman Municipal Code, Section 38.100.100, states in relevant part:"This chapter is not intended to affect
any existing private agreement or condition such as a deed restriction or covenant. If any provision of this chapter is
more restrictive or imposes a higher standard than any such private restriction,the requirements of this chapter
control."
z See e.g. State ex. Rel. Region H Child&Family Servs. v. District Court, 187 Mont. 126, 130,609 P.2d 245,247
("[Z]oning ordinances cannot destroy, impair,abrogate or enlarge the force and effect of an existing restrictive
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Here, the developer and neighboring lot owners could enter an agreement containing the desired
restrictions and recorded on the real property. The agreement could indicate the restrictions are
enforceable as covenants, run with the land, and are enforceable by the parties' successors and
assigns.3 While such agreement may be undesirable or onerous for the developer, it is legally
possible.
Should this opinion raise any questions, please contact me at your convenience.
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covenant."In addition,both the United States and Montana Constitutions prohibit the government from"impairing
the obligation of contracts."
s See e.g. Reichert v. Weeden, 190 Mont. 95,618 P.2d 1216(1980).
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