HomeMy WebLinkAbout008 Gran Cielo Block 14 - TIS Correspondence erik@mad-eng.com
From: erik@mad-eng.com
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2022 9:55 AM
To: 'Bob M'
Subject: RE: Gran Cielo Block 14 - Master Site Plan TIS
Bob,
Thanks for the info below. Good to hear that the original TIS will be sufficient. Have a great weekend.
Erik Ringsak, El,CMI
Madison Engineering, LLC
895 Technology Boulevard,Suite 203
Bozeman, MT 59718
406.586.0262 office
erik@mad-eng.com
MADISON
ENGINEERING
From: Bob M <bobm@marvinassociates.com>
Sent:Thursday,October 27, 2022 5:38 PM
To: erik@mad-eng.com
Subject: RE: Gran Cielo Block 14- Master Site Plan TIS
Hi Erik
I called Chris a few weeks ago and gave him my confirmation over the phone, but he never called back to let me know what
format my response needs to be.
Based on the unit counts he provided and the attachments you provided, I have calculated that there would be
approximately 280 bedrooms within the 158 apartment units. Our TIS calculated that there would be 784 bedrooms
(persons) within the development. We used the ITE Trip Generation Report, 9"h Edition Code 220 which projected
approximately 3.39 AWT trips per person with 0.27 trips/person in the AM hour and 0.37 trips/person in the PM Hour. The
ITE Tri[s Generation Report, 11th Edition indicates that the Code 22 "Mid-Rise Apartments" rates are 2.28 trips/person is
2.28 with peak AM period being 0.22 and the peak PM 0.19.
This indicates that the original rates are lower than the TIS rates and the number of bedrooms (persons) is significantly
lower. Thus, the original TIS overstated the number of trips associated with this development.
Bob
From: erik@mad-ene.com <erik@mad-enk;.corn>
Sent:Tuesday, October 25, 2022 5:12 PM
To: Bob M <bobm@marvinassociates.com>
Subject: FW: Gran Cielo Block 14- Master Site Plan TIS
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Bob,
Below is my correspondence with the City of Bozeman.They are asking us to confirm that the TIS that was performed
back in 2017,for Gran Cielo, shows that the trip generation for the site plan is in line or less than the trip generation
utilized in the TIS report. I have highlighted in yellow the trip generator calculations below from the future site plan.
Attached above is as follows:
• Institute of Transportation Engineers Common Trip Generation Rates (My email below shows the numbers I
used from this document)
• Your Gran Cielo Traffic Impact Study
• Preliminary Block 14—Site Plan layout
Can you confirm that we will be in line or less than the trip generation stated in the TIS report? Let me know whenever
you get a chance.
Thank you.
Erik Ringsak, El,CMI
Madison Engineering, LLC
895 Technology Boulevard,Suite 203
Bozeman, MT 59718
406.586.0262 office
erik@mad-eng.com
MADISON
ENGINEERING
From:Alicia Paz-Solis<apazsolis@BOZEMAN.NET>
Sent:Tuesday, October 25, 2022 4:14 PM
To: erik@mad-eng.com
Subject: RE: Gran Cielo Block 14- Master Site Plan TIS
Hi Erik,
Per Taylor Lonsdale, please submit the TIS for the original subdivision (2017) and provide documentation that the trip
generation for this site plan is in line with or less than the trip generation utilized in that TIS.This allows us to confirm
that this site plan falls within the anticipated impact identified in the original subdivision.
Please let me know if you have any additional questions, or need to further discuss with Taylor.
Thank you,
Alicia Paz-Solis, El I Engineering
406 582 2976
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From: erik@mad-enp,.com<erik@mad-eng.com>
Sent:Tuesday, October 25, 2022 8:49 AM
To:Alicia Paz-Solis<apazsolis@BOZEMAN.NET>
Subject: Gran Cielo Block 14- Master Site Plan TIS
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Alicia,
Attached above is a preliminary layout of the future Gran Cielo Block 14 Site Plan and the trip generation manual. Based
off the Institute of Transportation Engineers Trip Generation Manual, 101h ED and using the total number of units, 158
(at full buildout),and using line item 221 Multifamily housing(mid-rise), a dwelling unit of 0.44 can be used.
158 units x 0.44= 69.52 trips at peak hour is calculated.
Block 14 of Gran Cielo Subdivision is located South of Apex Drive and West of South 27th Avenue. Let me know if this is
sufficient to waive a TIS or if one will be required for site plan submittal. Previously I would reach out to Taylor Lonsdale
regarding this but in the past he has stated to route through the review engineer for tracking purposes. Could you pass
along? Let me know whenever you get a chance.
Thank you.
Erik Ringsak, El, CMI
Madison Engineering, LLC
895 Technology Boulevard,Suite 203
Bozeman, MT 59718
406.586.0262 office
erik@mad-ens.com
MADISON
ENGINEERING
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