HomeMy WebLinkAbout09-25-23 Public Comment - T. Minge - UDC_Zoning-Updated massing illustration & commentsFrom:Tammy Minge
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Please find the attached updated massing illustration and comments.
Thanks! Tammy
-- Tammy Minge
Licensed Architect/Master Certified Green ProfessionalFrog Rock Design, LLP
P.O. Box 6216Bozeman, MT 59771
406.581.0527
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R E S I D E N T I A L A R C H I T E C T U R E
September 19, 2023
To: City Commissioners, Mayor & CDB Members
From: Tammy Minge
715 S. Grand Ave.
RE: Proposed New UDC/Zoning-Potential scale-massing of proposed changes.
See attached updated illustration showing the allowed new massing/scale resulting from combining
R-1-R-3.
Comments on Massing & Scale:
1. The result is the same as before, Huge. The allowed building volume with 10,000 sq. ft and 3
stories per the proposed new UDC is massive and out of scale with typical R-1, R-2 and even
most R-3 neighborhood blocks. Think the Story Mansion but taller on the lot next to you. Story
Mansion is 56’ wide by 35-38’ tall in its primary building massing. Even the current allowed 40’
height in R-1 & R-2 combined with 10,000 sq. foot apartments can produce buildings as large as
the Story Mansion.
2. The consultant used isometric drawing viewed from the top rather than a streetscape. 3-d
modeling can be deceptive in regards to human scale. What is currently being shown by the consultant diagrams is misleading to that actual potential impact of scale and mass in existing
and future neighborhoods. I used to tell my student at MSU that are just learning to play
around with 3-d computer modeling, “these models can be very deceptive in showing real
human scale and street level building massing, don’t be fooled.” Architects historically use
physically built models to tell the real and full story, ground level streetscape drawings like the
attached do a better job than an isometric shown from above. Why isn’t anyone else providing
these with real examples from actual Bozeman neighborhoods to show the actual impact in all
the zoning districts?
3. The context buildings the consultants used to show the potential relationships of the infill are
also larger scale buildings with the 25’ wall plate, which is also misleading. Most single-family
residences in our community are closer to 25’ tall total including the roof. There are many
exceptions that are 3-stories (and around 32’ tall) and many that are much lower, but there are
not many examples in our R1 & R-2 zoning districts that are as massive/tall as the “comparative”
examples being used by the consultants in their isometric drawings.
Comment on Vertical Massing- “Wall Plate” and “Stories” for defining height and scale of buildings in the
RA Zoning:
1. “Wall Plate & Stories” are confusing & do not help with a more user-friendly code: I had
difficulty and some members of the Community Development Board at the most recent meeting
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had difficulty in understanding how the “Wall Plate” and “Stories” work together with the roof
and overall allowed building height. Professionals working with larger scale projects are
probably used to these, but it is not innately intuitive the way it is currently presented. This is
not user friendly for the average citizen.
2. It is unclear to me how the “Stories” relate to real methods of construction for single family
homes and smaller multi-unit buildings. The most economic and energy efficient way to build is
with your stories below the roof with a decent energy heel and a truss rather than stick framing
required to incorporate the third story into the roof area. It is unclear to me that if you take this
approach if you can only have 2 stories then, with the roof being the third. If you are allowed three stories and then a truss roof system above, then it could get even taller than 50’ by code.
3. Why is a maximum wall plate with x number of stores better than providing maximum heights
like the prior UDC at least for the residential zoning districts? I prefer to be given a maximum
height and building massing restraints like lot coverage and maximum square footages of living
space for specific kinds of uses and then let me figure out how many stories I can get in.
Comment on Ground Story Minimum Height for RA:
1. Why require a minimum 9’ Ground Story height? It is common to have side walls that are lower
than 8’ when associated with a shed roof. You see this all over the NCOD. It is common to have
taller spaces that step down to shorter spaces and use shed roof elements and a variety of sizes
of houses, duplex’s rowhouses & etc.
2. A uniform 9’ or greater Ground Story Height may lead to homogenous design (thinking tract
houses).
3. Will lower walls than 8’ plate heights still be allowed on the main level if they are secondary
features and if not, why?
Solution/Recommendation:
1. For the requirement of the zoning code that it provide predictable and reasonable expectations
Per 38.200.010 Purpose., I stand with my earlier statement that R-1 & R-2 should not be
combined with R-3 at this time due to allowed building massing of multi-units currently allowed
in R-3. In the future if/when we have clear enforceable neighborhood standards established to
provide a gatekeeper for appropriate mass/scale then combining all three might be appropriate.
2. If it is the city’s goal to go beyond a duplex and ADU in R-1 & R-2 which is all the state requires,
update the UDC to expand the usage types but also reduce the massing and scale requirements
in RA zoning to better fit with the existing historical and create livability/solar equity for new
neighborhoods. This can be done with a lower building heights overall and max. living area
allowances for certain usage types like apartment buildings.
a. Example 6-unit apartment used by CDB at 616 S Grand is approx. 6264 sq. ft. total area
(living and shared use areas), it is 36’x58’ in footprint and 26’ tall. It uses the strategy of
starting the first level of apartments 4’ below grade and a flat roof.
3. If sticking with stories & “Wall Plate” for consistency with the other parts of the code, then also
have a maximum height requirement for the residential low density and possibly medium
density zoning that is much lower than 50’ (5’ Ground Floor Max Elev +15’ Max for 3 stories =
50’). This will provide a more reasonable and predictable mass/scale for these zoning types. Even
the currently allowed 40’ combined with the 10,000 building can produce buildings that can be
taller in height and larger in scale than the Story Mansion on infill lots.
4. Figure out how to make the height/story rules clearer and more understandable for the average
person.
5. Remove minimum Ground Story Height requirements for RA and similar zoning.