HomeMy WebLinkAbout02-11-23 Public Comment - M. Brown - Re_ Traffic Tickets and Traffic Cameras group - HB 414From:Marilee Brown
To:Betty Stroock
Cc:Jeff Mihelich; Agenda; Mark Egge; delmue; Mills, Daniel; Fischer Douglas; Nicholas Ross; Taylor Lonsdale;
Candace Mastel; kelly pohl; Cyndy Andrus; I-Ho Pomeroy; Jennifer Madgic; Christopher Coburn; Jason Karp;
Jason Karp; Danny Choriki; Ed Stafman; Jane Gillette; Mike Veselik
Subject:Re: Traffic Tickets and Traffic Cameras group - HB 414
Date:Saturday, February 11, 2023 4:45:25 PM
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I would rather be rear ended than be T-Boned. The amendment does not allow ticketing orcitations. But it might make drivers think twice about running red lights on purpose like we
observed where Kelly was killed and track who was in the right or wrong at crashes. Thepolice do not have a traffic division to enforce the road and people have gotten ridiculous in
pushing the reds. I think the amendment takes care of your concerns.
On Feb 11, 2023, at 3:19 PM, Betty Stroock <bstroock@gmail.com> wrote:
I oppose this effort in the strongest possible terms.
Through community effort, we were able to defeat such an effort at installingtraffic cameras in Bozeman several years ago.
This is a bad idea. Traffic cameras would create far more traffic problems thanthey would solve. A cameral cannot know who is the driver of the vehicle — in
many cases the driver is not the owner of the vehicle - yet citations would beissued automatically to the owner of the license plate. At traffic intersections, as
was discussed years ago, drivers will be incentivized to slam on the brakes at thefirst sign of a yellow light, which will cause far more accidents involving cars
behind slamming into the one in front.
We are all in favor or making streets and roadways safer for non-motorized users. This is not the way.
On Feb 10, 2023, at 2:56 PM, Marilee Brown
<saferbozeman@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Jeff!
Hurrah for Billings (and Montana State Representatives KellyKortum, Ed Stafman and Denise Baum)! Thanks to their work,
allowing traffic cameras is now going to be up before the legislaturestarting on Valentines day in Kelly Fulton’s name. Please have staff
contact Danny below if you want them to help. This will take aconcerted effort. Others on this email list can help organize those
who you know. We can do this if we all work together!
It’s easiest to read the bill in PDF form. Follow the link below andclick on the “Introduced” PDF version.
Anyone can give me a call or email if you want to help push this
effort in an organized way. Maybe the School District or City wouldhave a bus we could all take to the most important meetings in
Helena.
And please let me know who to coordinate with in the City. Weshould have politicians, police, engineers etc. And maybe it would
even be a great idea to get this kind of thing (along with otherlegislation) on the City public email lists.
Thank you for helping to make this happen!
Marilee Brown, Safer Bozeman and GAP
406-579-5447
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From: Danny Choriki <danny@choriki4mt.us>Subject: Traffic Tickets and Traffic Cameras
group - HB 414
Date: February 10, 2023 at 1:48:51 PM MST
To: A Toole <abtoole@live.com>, Jane Gillette
<Jane.Gillette@legmt.gov>, Marilee Brown
<saferbozeman@gmail.com>, T Cunningham
<TCunningham@bozeman.net>, Ralph Zimmer
<Ralphzimmer@mcn.net>, Mike Veselik
<mveselik@bozeman.net>, Denise Baum
<Denise.Baum@legmt.gov>, Ed Stafman
<Ed.Stafman@legmt.gov>, Matt Lennick
<lennickm@billingsmt.gov>, Tobin Novasio
<novasiot@lockwoodschool.org>, Greg Upham
<uphamg@billingsschools.org>, Scott Reiter
<reiters@billingsschools.org>, Bill Cole
<coleb@billingsmt.gov>, Ed Gulick
<egulick@highplainsarchitects.com>, Chris
Kukulski <kukulskic@billingsmt.gov>, Yellowstone
Rim Runners <gorimrunners@gmail.com>,
mbonnermt@gmail.com
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You recently were involved in an email conversation or apersonal conversation with one of the organizers of a
new group dedicated to changing the State Laws to allowcities and counties to use traffic cameras to issue traffic
tickets.
One quick update, and an ask.
Rep. Ed Stafman from Bozeman has HB 414 (Allowinglocal governments to use Red Light Cameras) going into
the House Judiciary Committee on 14 Feb 2023 at 8 am.(Co-sponsered by Rep Denise Baum of Billings).
https://fastdemocracy.com/bill-
search/mt/2023/bills/MTB00013091/
We are working on talking points.
The ask is, we are setting up a structure to contact peoplemoving forward as we think this will be a multi-session
process.
If you want to keep informed on this and related issues,now is your chance to sign up. Also, if you don't want to
receive any more emails from this distribution, or if youwant it to go to a different email address, let me know.
Danny Choriki
danny@choriki4mt.us406-850-4631
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Marilee Brown, Chair
GAP - Galla10 Alliance for Pathways
2411 Kid Curry Drive
Bozeman, MT 59718
406-579-5447
saferbozeman@gmail.com
www.frontagepathway.com
Marilee Brown, Chair
GAP - Galla10 Alliance for Pathways
2411 Kid Curry Drive
Bozeman, MT 59718
406-579-5447
saferbozeman@gmail.com
www.frontagepathway.com