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September 9, 2021
Leslie Maienschein-Cline, Solomon Cordwell Buenz, SCB; leslie.maienschein-cline@scb.com
Nolan Sit, SCB; Nolan.sit@scb.com
Joseph King, SCB; joseph.king@scb.com
Lindsey Von Seggern, SCB; lindsey.vonseggern@scb.com
Nicole Stine, SMA; nicoles@architects-sma.com
Andy Holloran, Henry Partners, LLC and HomeBase Partners; andy@hbpartners.com
RE: 21231; The Henry Condominiums (North Central Block 3.4) Site Plan and 21165; The Ives
(North Central Block 4) Site Plan Review by the Bozeman Design Review Board on September 8,
2021.
Dear Folks:
As you are aware, the City’s Design Review Board (DRB) met yesterday evening to discuss the
design of the two above-referenced site plan applications pursuant to the Bozeman Municipal
Code (BMC) Section 38.230.040. Below please find a summary of their comments on each
proposed site plan. Please forward these comments to relevant members of your design team.
If you wish to discuss their comments with Department staff, please let me know and I can
schedule a TEAM meeting with the appropriate staff. If you intend to incorporate some of the
DRB suggestions into the project design, please let me know so we can assist you in submitting
amendments for our review through the Bozeman Cloud Intake folder. This summary will be
sent to the Director along with the staff reports for each project when the public notice period
for each project has ended. The Director will take into consideration for his decision to
approve, approve with conditions or deny the site plan and Departures: All public comment,
the DRB recommendations, any design changes by the Applicant in response to DRB
recommendations, the staff report containing Code compliance evaluations, and will consider all
matters of record presented with the application. The 15-day Public Comment period for The
Henry proposal ends September 25, 2021 and when the staff evaluation is complete and
presented to the Director, he will make his decision.
If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact me at 406-582-2285 or
your Development Review Coordinator Ross Knapper at 406-582-2968 or at
rknapper@bozeman.net. We thank you for your time and presentation at the DRB meeting.
You all made a fine presentation and described your proposed project well.
Sincerely,
Susana Montana, Senior Planner
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DRB Members present: Lotus Grenier, Troy Scherer recused himself, Brady Ernst, Mark
Hufstetler, Allison Bryan, Erin Eisner and Paul East.
21231; The Henry condominium apartment (North Central Block 3.4)
Overall, the DRB stated that the Applicant presented a good design of the Site and the buildings
providing quality materials for the buildings.
Susana Montana, Community Development planner, entered the staff report into the record and
then presented a slide show presentation describing the Site, the Applicant’s North Central
Master Plan area as context for the proposed development, described the character of the
neighborhood, described the proposed development and the requested Departures from the
Bozeman Municipal Code (BMC).
Mr. John King representing the Applicant presented a slide show describing the design elements
of the project, how the design would “fit” into the proposed four block North Central Master
Plan elements, and described the reasons and justifications for the requested Departures.
The Chair called for public comments and there were none.
The Chair asked for a Motion from the Board to begin discussions on the proposal.
Board Member Allison Bryan made the Motion from the text of the staff report which was
seconded by Paul East.
Some DRB expressed concerns and suggestions for the project follow:
Departure No. 1. Several Board Members expressed concern with the requested Departure
from the Special Residential Block Frontage to reduce the setback from 10-feet to 6-ft. and 3-
inches for the Villard/Tracy corner ground floor dwelling unit number 105. They expressed that
the mitigation proposed by the Applicant to raise the windows of the Tracy façade for that unit
to six feet above grade so a person of that height or lower would not be able to see into the
unit; affording the residents therein privacy while still providing natural light. They also propose
to install a 5-ft.,11-in.-wide landscaped buffer along the Tracy frontage of Unit 105.
Board Members suggested that the Tracy frontage wall should be “pulled back” ten feet to
provide more space for a proper setback for not only Unit 105 but for the other two dwelling
units accessing from Tracy Avenue. They expressed that the porches and landscaping of the
other two dwellings was minimally meeting code (“too tight”, “too small”) and the porches,
stoops and landscaping should be larger with more dense vegetation to enhance privacy for
those residents; pulling the wall back 10 feet could provide the space to achieve this privacy for
those units. Board Members expressed that the proposed mitigation measures of higher
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windows and landscaping at grade did not meet the Code criteria for a Departure in that the
proposed alternative was not attractive and did not provide the privacy required of a ground
floor dwelling unit [BMC 38.510.030.J].
Departure No. 2. There was discussion about the request to reduce the Tracy Avenue
setback for the building entrance from 10-feet to 7 ft.,1-in. The building entrance is next to the
proposed “Beall Alley” which, in the short term, would be only about 13-feet from the existing
Medical Arts building south wing. This would remain a narrow pathway until a much later
phase of the North Central Master Plan were built. However, the 7-ft. setback was to the stair
landing for the entrance and the door was setback another 5 feet. Although Board Members
would prefer that the Tracy frontage wall be setback 10-ft. from the property line, they are
generally in support of this Departure request to allow the 7-ft. setback instead of 10 ft. for the
Tracy Avenue building entrance.
Building Design. Overall, the Board Members liked the proposed materials but were
concerned with some of the materials’ placement on the façade. There was discussion about
the black metal siding material for the ground floor façade being too dark and “unfriendly” to
the adjacent single-family home neighborhood to the east and north. The ground floor height
of 15-feet is too tall with the black metal “skin” and appears out of scale with the nearby single-
story houses. It was suggested that bringing down the first floor height may help the building
to appear more in scale with the neighborhood.
[Staff post-meeting note: the Neighborhood Conservation Overlay District (NCOD) guideline for Mass and
Scale A.1. recommends a minimum floor-to-floor height of 15-feet. The form and intensity standard for
buildings in the B-3 zone requires a 13-foot floor-to-ceiling height for the first floor (Table 38.320.050).
The material for the first floor is not regulated except metal siding must be a minimum of 24 gauge
thickness (Table 38.530.060).]
One Board Member suggested that a “brownstone” first floor material for the façade of the
Tracy Avenue dwelling units and their stoops would help to soften the scale of the much taller
building in the area and could help correct the appearance of not “neighborliness” of the
façade. It was suggested that, rather than dark metal, the ground floor material should be
brick.
Balconies. There was discussion regarding the privacy provided for project residents at the
balconies as well as privacy for residents of the adjacent smaller homes due to the clear-glass
balconies. There was concern that residents’ patio furniture and storage of “stuff” would be
visible and unattractive to residents of the neighborhood. The Applicant explained that the
patios were rather large and were setback from the balcony edge by 8-feet. Susana mentioned
that the BMC Code required balconies next to residents to be at least 50% opaque
[38.520.030]. Nonetheless, Board Members did not support the glass balcony railings even if
they were “frosted” for greater privacy.
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Landscaping. The Board Members found the 2-ft. landscaping along Tracy Avenue for the two
dwelling units with an entrance on Tracy Ave. to be inadequate—too narrow.
Members like the courtyard at the southwest corner of the Site. There was concern that the
open space would be out of scale and much of the time would be in shade when the other
three buildings of the Master Plan were built around it.
The rock garden in the common open space would be too small in scale for the space. The
rocks should be larger to make the year-round “statement” that the Applicant stated he wanted
to achieve.
A motion had been made by the DRB to recommend to the Director approval of the proposed
site plan and building design including the requested Departures. This motion passed
unanimously (5-0) based on the findings presented in the staff report and all information
presented by staff and the Applicant’s representatives at the DRB meeting.
21165; The Ives (North Central Block 4) Design Review Board comments of
September 8, 2021
Staff planner Susana Montana entered the staff report into the record and then made a slide
show presentation of the project explaining the Site, the neighborhood, the location of the Site
within the North Central Master Plan proposal; described the project’s various elements and
approvals needed: Site plan, Subdivision Exemption for lot aggregation, and a Certificate of
Appropriateness for demolition of the parking lot and for the new building. She explained that
the residential, retail and parking garage uses for the Site were principal permitted uses and
that vehicle and bike parking in excess of that required for the residents and on-site commercial
uses could be available for Joint Use per the BMC [38.540.060]. She explained the reason for
the building step-back design on its west side due to proximity to residentially-zoned single-
story homes abutting the alley to the west [38.320.060.2.b]. She presented slides of the design
explaining how staff determined that the scale, mass, solid-to-void ratios and materials
positively addressed NCOD criteria and guidelines. Staff described the temporary parking lot
that would be provided nearby by the Applicant to mitigate the loss of parking at the Site.
Mr. Nolan Sit presented a slide show showing the building design, the design concept and how
it is manifest in the building, and presented the various elements of the building.
The Chair called for public comment and there was none.
Board Questions and Concerns.
1. If the 3rd floor open space patio is to be functioning year-round, how will the Applicant
remove snow from the 3rd floor open space? Where would the snow be stored in that
area?
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2. The South side of the building abuts another commercial Site and building. What
landscaping would be provided along the Building’s south side? Ms. Lindsey Von
Seggern stated the landscaping was 10-feet wide.
3. There was a questions about the number of indoor secure bicycle spaces were to be
available to residents of the project. The Applicant responded that there would be 99
indoor secure bike racks for residents and 53 for off-site users.
4. There was a question as to why the 45-degree angles were required for The Ives
building and not for The Henry building. Staff explained that the Code required the
stepping back from the alley for The Ives building due to the close proximity to single-
story homes across the 16-foot wide alley and the homes next to The Henry were
separated from the 6-story building by a 60-foot wide Villard Street and a 50-something-
foot wide Tracy Avenue [38.320.060.2.b] which provided greater relief from the scale
and provided light, air and privacy to neighbors of The Henry.
5. There was a question about the building materials proposed along the west side of the
building. The west façade was next to single-story homes which would remain so for
decades to come, if not longer, so this view of the building’s west façade is more visible
and important to the public. The public view of the east side of the building, facing
Willson, would be obscured as soon as the similarly tall buildings of Block 3 (Medical Arts
Building) are built. The west façade is more visible to the community but has lesser
quality materials. The west side should have the same quality materials as the east
façade.
6. For “edge buildings” (tall buildings alongside smaller homes) balconies cause privacy
concerns to residents of the smaller homes.
7. What type of material is the white trim on the brick façade?
8. The metal siding of the building “sticks out”.
9. On the Willson façade, the vertical glass area separating the two halves of the building
have some sort of internal lighting—what type of lighting would be used?
10. The Villard façade is not presenting “neighborliness” to the smaller single-household
homes across the street as is proposed in the “feather/stone” design concept. How can
you soften the Villard façade to be friendlier to the homes across the street? Also, there
is not a lot of landscaping along the Villard side; more greenery would soften the
harshness of the dark brick façade.
11. The Feather and Stone design concept is well done on the Willson façade but is “lost”
on the Villard façade. The vertical glass “link” between the two mass sides of the
building should be brought down to the ground floor façade as it is shown on the
Willson façade. It seems that the exterior materials of the north façade should be
reversed to continue the “rock and feather” design concept as it turns the corner onto
the Villard façade. Rather, it currently is reversed with the wood “feather” on the side of
the taller North Central buildings and the “rock” brick materials on the side of the lower
scale homes.
The Chair asked for a Motion from the Board. Board Member Allison Bryan made the Motion
from the text of the staff report which was seconded by Erin Eisner.
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Board Discussion:
Board Member Allison Bryan stated (1) that people use balcony decks and that they should
provide privacy for the residents on the balconies and for the lower homes across the street
and alley; (2) the glass connector piece between the two sides of the building elevation on
the Villard façade should be brought down to the ground floor; and (3) the west side of the
building along the alley should have better materials used.
Board Member Mark Hufstetler complemented the design and the treatment along the east
elevation and commented that the north and west elevations are more visible to the public
and should not have a lesser design and materials as is currently proposed. Those
elevations should have higher quality materials.
Board Member Erin Eisner complemented the design concept. However, the alley elevation
looks like a warehouse. The 3rd floor courtyard has been brushed over in its design. There
is one tree; why is it placed where it blocks windows?
Board Member Paul East likes the comments Lotus Grenier made regarding the rock and
feather design concept being “lost” on the Villard and alley façades. He agrees that those
elevations should have the same materials as the Willson façade. The ground floor pedestal
is not reflective of the “feather and stone” design concept.
Board Member Brady Ernst asked what coloring would be used on the vertical glass element
linking the mass of the two sides between the feather and the rock halves of the building
design.
Board Member Allison Bryan asked the Applicant to not use dark mortar between the bricks;
the mortar should not be the same color as the brick.