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Home My WebLink About02-10-21 Public Comment - L. Prugh - SID 762 S. 6th AveFrom: Lisa Prugh To: Richard Kerin Cc: Pohl Dick N Mary; Martin Johnson; Greg & Annie Peterson Subject: Re: FW: Traffic Circles - 6th Avenue SID Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 2:05:29 PM My concern is that the whole project loses favor from residents who A. Can't afford it continuing to grow financially B. .don't understand traffic management standards C. Calming seems superfolous and unnecessary and expensive for their residential needs. I am cautious to discredit the City's efforts on a "first ever" project that has had this much interest and input. And hopefully will go through the protest period now that the $$$ are on the table. I see it differently with collaboration, enthusiasm, and continued communication from City staff. I want it to pass and move forward. Temporary (3 season) calming is still very much on the table. And there are many solutions besides circles for calming. I am not protesting and I hope others are also in favor. But these costs are already prohibitive for some and I would hate to see the whole project scrubbed bc of persistent demands. I am willing to work toward temporary solutions as a neighborhood if that can be a better resolve for all. Best, Lisa Prugh On Wed, Feb 10, 2021, 1:39 PM Richard Kerin <rick@kerinandassociates.com> wrote: Lisa, Dick/Mary, Martin, Greg – You probably saw/read my following e-mail to City/residents. I wrote it this morning out of frustration about City axing Story circle. As you pointed out, Martin, I think this may be one for City Manager/Commission to intercede. I haven’t heard of peep from City staff involved. Rick Richard T. Kerin, P.E. rick@kerinandassociates.com www.kerinandassociates.com (406) 586-8407 (office) (406) 570-4913 (cell) 517 S. 22nd Ave. Ste. #4 Bozeman, MT 59718 The information contained in this e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential. 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From: Richard Kerin <rick@kerinandassociates.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 10:28 AM To: 'Shawn Kohtz' <SKohtz@BOZEMAN.NET>; 'Taylor Lonsdale' <tlonsdale@BOZEMAN.NET>; 'Kellen Gamradt' <KGamradt@BOZEMAN.NET>; 'dhess@bozeman.net' <dhess@bozeman.net> Cc: 'icemaiden13@gmail.com' <icemaiden13@gmail.com>; 'lroche13@gmail.com' <lroche13@gmail.com>; 'epessl@aol.com' <epessl@aol.com>; 'timharvey@aol.com' <timharvey@aol.com>; 'duncanbullock.artdesign@gmail.com' <duncanbullock.artdesign@gmail.com>; 'kevinreetz@gmail.com' <kevinreetz@gmail.com>; 'bahartnett@yahoo.com' <bahartnett@yahoo.com>; 'scottrbrennan@gmail.com' <scottrbrennan@gmail.com>; 'prugh.lisa@gmail.com' <prugh.lisa@gmail.com>; 'ucfjoy@aol.com' <ucfjoy@aol.com>; 'smacevicz@gmail.com' <smacevicz@gmail.com>; 'martinjohnson70@gmail.com' <martinjohnson70@gmail.com>; 'dickpohl44@gmail.com' <dickpohl44@gmail.com>; 'lauramstanley@gmail.com' <lauramstanley@gmail.com>; 'lauramstanley@gmail.com' <lauramstanley@gmail.com>; 'katiesylvis@gmail.com' <katiesylvis@gmail.com>; 'skirchhoff3@gmail.com' <skirchhoff3@gmail.com>; 'bgs@montana.edu' <bgs@montana.edu>; 'sblissmercer@gmail.com' <sblissmercer@gmail.com>; 'zeb.breuckman@gmail.com' <zeb.breuckman@gmail.com>; 'erichhannan@gmail.com' <erichhannan@gmail.com>; 'danchever@gmail.com' <danchever@gmail.com>; 'ericnoyes01@gmail.com' <ericnoyes01@gmail.com>; 'susan.kollin@gmail.com' <susan.kollin@gmail.com>; 'iwc@integratedweedcontrol.com' <iwc@integratedweedcontrol.com>; 'musselman5x5@gmail.com' <musselman5x5@gmail.com>; 'richard.rudnicki@montana.edu' <richard.rudnicki@montana.edu>; 'dogsinbozeman@msn.com' <dogsinbozeman@msn.com>; '4baker4@gmail.com' <4baker4@gmail.com>; 'jillrpratt@gmail.com' <jillrpratt@gmail.com>; 'bobekey6@gmail.com' <bobekey6@gmail.com>; 'cselby@bresnan.net' <cselby@bresnan.net>; 'cselby@bresnan.net' <cselby@bresnan.net>; 'pete@thegreenroomresource.com' <pete@thegreenroomresource.com>; 'garnett.keith21@gmail.com' <garnett.keith21@gmail.com>; '3012cottagegrove@gmail.com' <3012cottagegrove@gmail.com>; Richard Kerin <rick@kerinandassociates.com>; 'smacevicz@gmail.com' <smacevicz@gmail.com>; 'gregvallor@gmail.com' <gregvallor@gmail.com>; 'sallyo1956@icloud.com' <sallyo1956@icloud.com>; 'dellfuller49@gmail.com' <dellfuller49@gmail.com>; 'sweetgrass81@me.com' <sweetgrass81@me.com>; 'pamwalkerbode@gmail.com' <pamwalkerbode@gmail.com>; 'dgkasper@gmail.com' <dgkasper@gmail.com>; 'lora- d@charter.net' <lora-d@charter.net>; 'gapeterson61@gmail.com' <gapeterson61@gmail.com>; 'sceller@gmail.com' <sceller@gmail.com>; 'Katherine Maines' <KMaines@BOZEMAN.NET> Subject: Traffic Circles - 6th Avenue SID Shawn, Taylor, et.al. – On behalf of my neighbors and residents of the City’s 6th Ave. SID project, I ask you reconsider the center circle (CC) at Story and place it in the project. As our project consultants, City representatives, project designer and overall project administrators, I fell it is incumbent and imperative you to act in our best interests, particularly, when it comes to public/pedestrian safety. For the same reasons we rely and expect you to properly design the right size water, sanitary sewer and storm drainage improvements, we count on you to administer our traffic calming and pedestrian safety needs to the best of your ability. Without so much as a follow-up response to the WebEx meeting I organized the other day to only discuss traffic calming improvements you took it upon yourselves to axe the Story CC without any justification or public safety rationale. I know this is the first street corridor SID that the City has been able to get this far along in the SID creation process. Let me remind you that you got this far because the City’s been able to find an satisfactory balance between project costs and a manageable portion of cost allocated to property owners involved. Through several face-to-face and virtual meetings, many e-mails and phone calls back and forth and on-going dialogue amongst us neighbors we’ve been able to confined one another that the positive merits of this project outweigh any negative ones. Most that oppose the project are on fixed incomes, unemployed or newer residents saddled with large mortgages and just the expense of living in Bozeman. I can assure you that you would not have gotten this far without the positive support from the likes of Lisa Prugh and others who have worked hard to promote this project. In the process of addressing the issues of cost vs benefit; merits of new and upgrades water distribution, sanitary sewer, storm sewer, drainage, water and sewer services, etc., looking back traffic calming was for the most part glossed over by you and by us except for the straw vote that Kellen solicited in the final minutes of the WebEx meeting weeks ago that kicked-off the project. So, as your finalizing your engineering plans, please include the Story CC to round-out the project improvements (no pun intended). The Cooper Park neighborhood residents and I want it. Do the right think and include it. Please don’t try and convince us all that it’s too late because the plans are too far along at this point. We ask you to find a way to fund both Olive and Story CCs and not allow them to become sacrificial lambs through the project bidding process. By the way we do thank you for incorporating the Olive CC in the project. Acting as our project representatives and spokesmen and women we feel it is incumbent on you to error on the side of public/pedestrian safety when reconsidering the Story CC. Granting the project the Story CC we feel would accomplish that goal in a comprehensive way. There’s no amount of reasoning or engineering logic that should preclude you from including it. We are all aware that the list of CC’s within our 6th Ave SID goes far beyond the scope of any street corridor re-design you have ever considered within the City when it comes to pedestrian/traffic safety/calming considerations. I applaud you for going outside of your traditional comfort zone by going as far as you have. We commend you for listening to our requests/wants for traffic calming improvements to the extent you have. I get the feeling we’ve pushed your limits with CCs and have gone as far as your willing to go without further consideration. You just need to go the extra step, whether its warranted or not, and simply design-in a CC at Story. The consideration, here, shouldn’t be that it has to meet, like the accident-history warrant to justify its installation. Use the logic that its placement will prevent a future accident. As you well know, the Cooper neighborhood is growing in population/residents as more multi-family housing, ADU’s, etc. are built within and on the perimeter of our Cooper Park neighborhood, like for example, SOBO Condos. Circles aren’t difficult to maneuver around for vehicles or snow plows. Certainly, one more isn’t going to trigger some traffic crisis along 6th or with east-west crossing traffic. The CC @ Story would insure pedestrian safety/traffic calming where its really needed most, i.e., around pedestrian busy Cooper Park. Do the right thing, here, and include the Story CC in the project. The project proponents want it!! Thank you Rick Kerin