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HomeMy WebLinkAbout09-06-17 BABAB MinutesBozeman​ ​Area​ ​Bicycle​ ​Advisory​ ​Board​ ​(BABAB) Meeting​ ​Notes​ ​for​ ​September​ ​6,​ ​2017 6-8​ ​p.m.​ ​​City​ ​Hall BABAB’s​ ​purpose​ ​is​ ​to​ ​recommend​ ​safe​ ​bicycle​ ​practices​ ​throughout​ ​Bozeman​ ​in​ ​regard​ ​to enhanced​ ​bicycle​ ​circulation​ ​and​ ​design,​ ​community-wide​ ​bicycle​ ​education​ ​and​ ​safety programs,​ ​and​ ​other​ ​matters​ ​relating​ ​to​ ​bicycling​ ​in​ ​the​ ​Bozeman​ ​area. A.Call​ ​Meeting​ ​to​ ​Order: a.Called​ ​to​ ​order​ ​at​ ​6:01.​ ​In​ ​attendance:​ ​Elise​ ​Cranmer,​ ​Lila​ ​Fleishman,​ ​Candace Mastel,​ ​John​ ​Vandelinder,​ ​Dillon​ ​Warn,​ ​Andrew​ ​Brechbuhler,​ ​Sam​ ​Haraldson, Carson​ ​Taylor,​ ​Tawnya​ ​Healy, b.Members​ ​of​ ​the​ ​Public​ ​in​ ​attendance:​ ​Linda​ ​DuPriest,​ ​Mel​ ​Polk​ ​(Bozeman Planning​ ​Office,)​ ​Ralph​ ​Zimmer B.Approve​ ​July​ ​and​ ​August​ ​Meeting​ ​Minutes:​ ​Sam​ ​motions,​ ​Dillon​ ​2nds,​ ​approved unanimously. C.Public​ ​Comment: a.Ralph​ ​-​ ​Chair​ ​Pedestrian​ ​Saftey​ ​Committee,​ ​and​ ​Galla10. i.Galla10​ ​Alliance​ ​for​ ​Pathways​ ​update,​ ​they​ ​have​ ​filed​ ​for​ ​incorporation​ ​as a​ ​non-profit​ ​last​ ​week.​ ​An​ ​attorney​ ​has​ ​been​ ​retained​ ​for​ ​the​ ​process, everything​ ​is​ ​moving​ ​along​ ​on​ ​that​ ​front.​ ​They​ ​will​ ​shortly​ ​be​ ​organized​ ​as a​ ​non-profit. D.Capital​ ​Improvement​ ​Plan​ ​List​ ​–​ ​Action​ ​Item​ ​(Linda​ ​DuPriest​ ​and​ ​Candace​ ​Mastel) a.This​ ​is​ ​the​ ​list​ ​of​ ​project​ ​improvements​ ​that​ ​the​ ​subcommittee​ ​has​ ​been​ ​working on,​ ​to​ ​present​ ​to​ ​the​ ​city​ ​commissioners​ ​as​ ​the​ ​Commission​ ​works​ ​on​ ​the​ ​Capital Improvement​ ​plan.​ ​There​ ​has​ ​been​ ​a​ ​slight​ ​delay​ ​as​ ​the​ ​city​ ​reviews​ ​the​ ​projects. b.Linda:​ ​We​ ​have​ ​a​ ​big​ ​list​ ​of​ ​bike,​ ​ped,​ ​and​ ​intersection​ ​projects.​ ​Craig​ ​Woolard and​ ​Rick​ ​Hixson​ ​have​ ​put​ ​these​ ​projects​ ​into​ ​the​ ​current​ ​Capital​ ​Improvement Plan.​ ​Craig​ ​will​ ​review​ ​and​ ​comment​ ​first. c.Streets​ ​Department​ ​will​ ​also​ ​arrange​ ​projects​ ​by​ ​year,​ ​cost,​ ​additional​ ​funding, and​ ​how​ ​they​ ​might​ ​get​ ​incorporated​ ​into​ ​already-planned​ ​projects. d.Standalone​ ​projects​ ​are​ ​likely​ ​to​ ​be​ ​overlooked,​ ​but​ ​if​ ​it​ ​can​ ​be​ ​put​ ​into​ ​a​ ​current project,​ ​that’s​ ​better.​ ​Whatever​ ​our​ ​#1​ ​project​ ​might​ ​be​ ​may​ ​not​ ​get​ ​put​ ​in unless​ ​we​ ​can​ ​incorporate​ ​it​ ​into​ ​the​ ​CIP.​ ​CIP​ ​is​ ​normally​ ​done​ ​in​ ​December,​ ​but a​ ​lot​ ​of​ ​pressure​ ​right​ ​now​ ​from​ ​developers. e.Various​ ​points​ ​of​ ​discussion: i.October​ ​meeting​ ​should​ ​work​ ​for​ ​Board​ ​to​ ​review​ ​List​ ​of​ ​projects. ii.Is​ ​there​ ​a​ ​way​ ​for​ ​Board​ ​to​ ​take​ ​a​ ​look,​ ​too?​ ​See​ ​which​ ​funding​ ​sources could​ ​be​ ​used​ ​for​ ​which​ ​projects? iii.Paint​ ​and​ ​road​ ​signs,​ ​inexpensive​ ​projects​ ​like​ ​that​ ​are​ ​much​ ​easier​ ​to​ ​do, so​ ​perhaps​ ​we​ ​should​ ​include​ ​a​ ​lot​ ​of​ ​those​ ​if​ ​possible. iv.City​ ​Commission​ ​meeting​ ​on​ ​the​ ​CIP​ ​will​ ​be​ ​in​ ​November. v.Do​ ​we​ ​need​ ​to​ ​write​ ​a​ ​letter​ ​of​ ​support​ ​for​ ​the​ ​list​ ​to​ ​the​ ​Commision? vi.A​ ​letter​ ​of​ ​support​ ​would​ ​be​ ​noticed​ ​by​ ​the​ ​commission. vii.Should​ ​the​ ​document​ ​should​ ​just​ ​have​ ​the​ ​Bike​ ​Board’s​ ​approval​ ​or should​ ​it​ ​have​ ​the​ ​list? viii.Agreed​ ​that​ ​the​ ​October​ ​meeting​ ​of​ ​BABAB​ ​should​ ​include​ ​vote​ ​for Board’s​ ​support,​ ​letter​ ​to​ ​city​ ​commission. E.BABAB​ ​Letter​ ​to​ ​City​ ​Commission​ ​for​ ​Support​ ​of​ ​Bicycle​ ​Initiatives/Improvements​ ​in​ ​the CIP​ ​–​ ​Action​ ​Item a.All​ ​pertinent​ ​discussion​ ​was​ ​included​ ​in​ ​previous​ ​item F.Street​ ​Maintenance​ ​District​ ​Funding​ ​Clarification​ ​(10​ ​minutes,​ ​Candace​ ​Mastel​ ​and​ ​John Vandelinder) a.There​ ​is​ ​some​ ​question​ ​as​ ​to​ ​how​ ​does​ ​Bike​ ​Board​ ​Funding​ ​work​ ​outside​ ​of​ ​CIP program.​ ​10​ ​years​ ​ago,​ ​it​ ​was​ ​decided​ ​to​ ​set​ ​aside​ ​$25k​ ​per​ ​year​ ​for​ ​Bike projects. b.Funding​ ​can​ ​come​ ​from​ ​different​ ​places,​ ​but​ ​it​ ​has​ ​to​ ​be​ ​put​ ​on​ ​the​ ​CIP​ ​plan c.If​ ​we​ ​wanted​ ​funding​ ​for​ ​a​ ​project,​ ​we​ ​would​ ​vote​ ​on​ ​it,​ ​send​ ​it​ ​to​ ​Vandelinder, and​ ​then​ ​Vandelinder​ ​would​ ​send​ ​it​ ​to​ ​City​ ​Commission​ ​to​ ​approve. d.Funds​ ​cannot​ ​accumulate.​ ​- e.Peach​ ​bike​ ​lanes​ ​were​ ​funded​ ​by​ ​Street​ ​Maintenance​ ​District​ ​Funding. f.BABAB​ ​does​ ​have​ ​the​ ​authority​ ​to​ ​raise​ ​money.​ ​All​ ​previous​ ​efforts​ ​have​ ​been unsuccessful,​ ​however. g.A​ ​project​ ​not​ ​on​ ​the​ ​Capital​ ​Improvement​ ​Plan​ ​can​ ​be​ ​funded​ ​by​ ​the​ ​Street Maintenance​ ​District​ ​Funding.​ ​For​ ​example,​ ​signage​ ​and​ ​markings​ ​on​ ​Koch​ ​could be​ ​funded​ ​by​ ​SMD,​ ​even​ ​though​ ​it​ ​is​ ​also​ ​on​ ​the​ ​CMP.​ ​Cascade​ ​Street improvements​ ​another​ ​example​ ​of​ ​projects​ ​funded​ ​this​ ​way. h.What​ ​the​ ​City​ ​Commission​ ​really​ ​wants​ ​to​ ​hear​ ​are​ ​recommendations,​ ​and​ ​then the​ ​Commission​ ​will​ ​figure​ ​out​ ​the​ ​funding.​ ​After​ ​comish​ ​votes​ ​on​ ​it,​ ​then​ ​it​ ​can go​ ​into​ ​the​ ​budget. G.Old​ ​Business​ ​(10​ ​minutes) a.Letter​ ​to​ ​City​ ​Commission​ ​concerning​ ​Galla10​ ​(Jason​ ​Delmue) b.Delmue​ ​is​ ​working​ ​on​ ​​ ​the​ ​letter.​ ​As​ ​per​ ​the​ ​previous​ ​month’s​ ​consensus, Galla10​ ​asked​ ​us​ ​to​ ​write​ ​a​ ​letter​ ​to​ ​the​ ​City​ ​Commission​ ​for​ ​the​ ​Commission to​ ​allow​ ​BABAB​ ​to​ ​affiliate​ ​with​ ​Galla10. c.Delmue’s​ ​letter​ ​needs​ ​revision,​ ​BABAB​ ​has​ ​been​ ​sending​ ​Delmue​ ​and​ ​Karp​ ​to the​ ​meetings​ ​of​ ​Galla10​ ​as​ ​well. d.Ralph​ ​Zimmer’s​ ​discussion​ ​items: i.Delmue​ ​is​ ​also​ ​a​ ​secretary​ ​of​ ​Galla10​ ​and​ ​has​ ​been​ ​part​ ​of​ ​it​ ​from​ ​the beginning​ ​and​ ​part​ ​of​ ​the​ ​adoption​ ​of​ ​their​ ​bylaws. ii.GAP​ ​did​ ​not​ ​ask​ ​for​ ​a​ ​vote,​ ​but​ ​the​ ​vote​ ​came​ ​from​ ​recommendations​ ​of the​ ​Mayor. iii.Other​ ​Boards​ ​are​ ​affiliating​ ​and​ ​joining​ ​in​ ​with​ ​Galla10. iv.Non-profit​ ​attorney​ ​has​ ​been​ ​working​ ​on​ ​GAP,​ ​distributed​ ​revised​ ​bylaws to​ ​Delmue​ ​and​ ​Karp,​ ​and​ ​others.​ ​those​ ​revised​ ​bylaws​ ​will​ ​be​ ​considered at​ ​GAP’s​ ​next​ ​meeting,​ ​on​ ​September​ ​11th. e.General​ ​Discussion: i.BABAB​ ​wanted​ ​to​ ​know​ ​dates​ ​and​ ​what​ ​our​ ​official​ ​“title”​ ​in​ ​Galla10 would​ ​be​ ​-​ ​Affiliate?​ ​Member?​ ​Liaison?​ ​What​ ​is​ ​it​ ​in​ ​the​ ​Galla10​ ​bylaws? ii.Karp​ ​and​ ​Delmue​ ​belong​ ​to​ ​the​ ​GAP​ ​board,​ ​but​ ​can’t​ ​act​ ​as​ ​a representative​ ​of​ ​BABAB​ ​(Delmue​ ​can​ ​vote,​ ​as​ ​he​ ​was​ ​voted​ ​Secretary and​ ​Treasurer​ ​of​ ​GAP. iii.It’s​ ​not​ ​clear​ ​what​ ​term​ ​would​ ​be​ ​most​ ​appropriate​ ​for​ ​groups​ ​that affiliate​ ​with​ ​GAP.​ ​GVLT​ ​is​ ​onboard​ ​and​ ​likes​ ​the​ ​term​ ​“Supporting Organizations.​ ​Other​ ​potential​ ​terms​ ​are​ ​Partners,​ ​or​ ​Advocates,​ ​but Members​ ​is​ ​not​ ​recommended.​ ​Bylaws​ ​are​ ​so​ ​far​ ​non-committal​ ​as​ ​to​ ​the term. iv.Taylor:​ ​BABAB​ ​members​ ​can​ ​be​ ​elected​ ​to​ ​GAP​ ​board​ ​in​ ​their​ ​own,​ ​but​ ​if we​ ​create​ ​a​ ​relationship​ ​between​ ​the​ ​city​ ​advisory​ ​boards​ ​(and​ ​by​ ​proxy the​ ​City​ ​Commission)​ ​and​ ​the​ ​Galla10,​ ​essentially​ ​it​ ​creates​ ​a​ ​need​ ​for City​ ​Commission​ ​to​ ​review​ ​minutes,​ ​etc.,​ ​for​ ​the​ ​Galla10.​ ​If​ ​no​ ​official relationship​ ​exists,​ ​then​ ​Commission​ ​might​ ​not​ ​need​ ​to​ ​see​ ​anything.​ ​It’s a​ ​transparency​ ​thing​ ​-​ ​Notice,​ ​agendas​ ​minutes,​ ​and​ ​rights​ ​for​ ​public​ ​to attend​ ​official​ ​city​ ​actions​ ​for​ ​committees,​ ​subcommittees,​ ​etc.,​ ​keeps the​ ​city​ ​out​ ​of​ ​trouble.​ ​City​ ​attorney​ ​probably​ ​needs​ ​to​ ​weigh​ ​in. v.BABAB​ ​did​ ​vote​ ​to​ ​support​ ​and​ ​join​ ​Galla10,​ ​pending​ ​Commission approval.​ ​It’s​ ​additional​ ​work.​ ​If​ ​other​ ​groups​ ​support,​ ​it​ ​would​ ​be​ ​a stronger​ ​argument​ ​to​ ​the​ ​city​ ​commission​ ​for​ ​the​ ​project. vi.Why​ ​not​ ​nice​ ​and​ ​easy​ ​relationship​ ​like​ ​a​ ​letter​ ​of​ ​support?​ ​This​ ​gives more​ ​credibility​ ​to​ ​Galla10​ ​and​ ​it’s​ ​goal. vii.Candace​ ​will​ ​continue​ ​working​ ​on​ ​this​ ​letter. viii.Ralph​ ​-​ ​As​ ​to​ ​the​ ​question​ ​if​ ​there​ ​is​ ​a​ ​formal​ ​relationship​ ​in​ ​the​ ​GAP’s bylaws,​ ​the​ ​June​ ​12​ ​bylaws​ ​specifically​ ​mentioned​ ​PTS,​ ​BABAB,​ ​others, could,​ ​if​ ​they​ ​chose,​ ​could​ ​become​ ​affiliated​ ​with​ ​Gala10.​ ​Sept.​ ​10​ ​bylaws make​ ​no​ ​reference​ ​to​ ​BABAB,​ ​but​ ​in​ ​affiliation​ ​language​ ​it​ ​creates​ ​no legal​ ​connection​ ​between​ ​these​ ​organizations.​ ​For​ ​comparison,​ ​GVLT​ ​lists 15​ ​or​ ​so​ ​supporting​ ​organizations​ ​in​ ​the​ ​community. f.So​ ​what​ ​will​ ​our​ ​relationship​ ​be?​ ​Formal​ ​or​ ​informal?​ ​We​ ​do​ ​still​ ​have​ ​to​ ​ask the​ ​city​ ​commission​ ​if​ ​we​ ​can​ ​be​ ​a​ ​formal​ ​connection. g.General​ ​consensus:​ ​We​ ​will​ ​write​ ​the​ ​letter​ ​of​ ​support,​ ​vet​ ​it​ ​through​ ​mayor, and​ ​send​ ​to​ ​commission​ ​for​ ​approval. h.Recreation​ ​advisory​ ​board​ ​is​ ​also​ ​considering,​ ​so​ ​there​ ​could​ ​be​ ​several​ ​city Advisory​ ​Boards​ ​involved​ ​with​ ​GAP/Galla10. H.New​ ​Business​ ​(10​ ​minutes) New​ ​Business​ ​1)​ ​Bike​ ​share​ ​opportunities​ ​at​ ​MSU​ ​and​ ​City-wide​ ​(Elise​ ​Cranmer) a.MSU​ ​has​ ​been​ ​talking​ ​to​ ​bikeshare​ ​companies,​ ​who​ ​are​ ​interested​ ​in​ ​starting a​ ​bike​ ​share​ ​program​ ​in​ ​Bozeman.​ ​Zagster​ ​is​ ​the​ ​primary​ ​company interested. b.Downtown​ ​Business​ ​Association​ ​is​ ​interested,​ ​in​ ​being​ ​part​ ​of​ ​the sponsorship​ ​-​ ​part​ ​of​ ​the​ ​program​ ​includes​ ​obtaining​ ​sponsors. c.Elise​ ​believes​ ​that​ ​a​ ​Bike​ ​Share​ ​program​ ​would​ ​be​ ​even​ ​more​ ​effective​ ​if​ ​the city​ ​of​ ​Bozeman​ ​were​ ​involved. d.Zagster​ ​has​ ​provided​ ​funding​ ​and​ ​implementation​ ​estimates,​ ​specializes​ ​in smaller​ ​towns​ ​and​ ​college​ ​towns. e.A​ ​letter​ ​of​ ​support​ ​would​ ​show​ ​Zagster​ ​that​ ​we’re​ ​serious. f.Promotional​ ​(advertising)​ ​is​ ​part​ ​ofthe​ ​contract​ ​-​ ​Downtown​ ​Business Association​ ​receives​ ​tax​ ​money​ ​(Improvement​ ​District)​ ​to​ ​support​ ​downtown businesses,​ ​they​ ​would​ ​be​ ​a​ ​great​ ​sponsor.​ ​They​ ​have​ ​the​ ​money​ ​and​ ​it would​ ​be​ ​a​ ​natural​ ​fit. g.MSU’s​ ​consideration​ ​is​ ​that​ ​parking​ ​on​ ​campus​ ​is​ ​stressed,​ ​so​ ​they​ ​would also​ ​be​ ​a​ ​good​ ​sponsor.​ ​MSU​ ​and​ ​Downtown​ ​are​ ​the​ ​two​ ​“hubs”​ ​for​ ​the​ ​bike share.​ ​The​ ​proposal​ ​has​ ​been​ ​presented​ ​to​ ​ASMSU​ ​Senate​ ​this​ ​week,​ ​they also​ ​have​ ​a​ ​pot​ ​of​ ​money​ ​they​ ​could​ ​plug​ ​in. h.Sponsorships​ ​might​ ​be​ ​a​ ​problem​ ​at​ ​MSU​ ​(advertising),​ ​so​ ​that’s​ ​a​ ​question to​ ​be​ ​addressed​ ​later.​ ​Regents​ ​might​ ​have​ ​something​ ​to​ ​say​ ​about​ ​it. i.For​ ​the​ ​record,​ ​the​ ​downtown​ ​Parking​ ​Garage​ ​has​ ​never​ ​been​ ​filled​ ​to capacity. j.The​ ​sponsorship​ ​costs​ ​the​ ​city/sponsors​ ​$75,000​ ​per​ ​year​ ​to​ ​Zagter,​ ​but​ ​less as​ ​program​ ​generates​ ​revenue.​ ​Minimum​ ​is​ ​30​ ​bikes,​ ​3​ ​stations.​ ​It​ ​can​ ​easily be​ ​scaled,​ ​the​ ​program​ ​is​ ​reviewed​ ​every​ ​three​ ​months. k.This​ ​could​ ​be​ ​a​ ​a​ ​TDM​ ​project​ ​idea.​ ​Do​ ​we​ ​want​ ​to​ ​support​ ​it?​ ​We​ ​will​ ​be discussing​ ​this​ ​in​ ​the​ ​future. New​ ​Business​ ​2)​ ​Bike​ ​Counts​ ​-​ ​September​ ​19,​ ​20,​ ​21 a.Therea​ ​are​ ​still​ ​many​ ​open​ ​slots.​ ​We​ ​need​ ​to​ ​help​ ​out​ ​and​ ​advertise​ ​it. b.Candace​ ​wil​ ​forward​ ​as​ ​well,​ ​everyone​ ​take​ ​a​ ​slot. c.Dani​ ​Hess​ ​and​ ​Rebecca​ ​Gleason​ ​are​ ​organizing​ ​it​ ​this​ ​year. New​ ​Business​ ​3)​ ​Bike​ ​Lights a.Police​ ​have​ ​some​ ​samples​ ​-​ ​Beam​ ​Bugs. b.Low​ ​quality,​ ​inexpensive,​ ​gateway​ ​device. c.Easy,​ ​and​ ​good​ ​enough​ ​for​ ​now!​ ​It’s​ ​better​ ​for​ ​someone​ ​to​ ​have​ ​some​ ​sort​ ​of light​ ​than​ ​no​ ​light. d.Gear​ ​WIzard​ ​was​ ​supplier. New​ ​Business​ ​4)​ ​Ralph​ ​Zimmer​ ​-​ ​more​ ​Galla10/GAP​ ​Pathway​ ​information. a.Delmue​ ​is​ ​Sec/Tres​ ​of​ ​GAP,​ ​Karp​ ​is​ ​head​ ​of​ ​Pathway​ ​Development​ ​Committee of​ ​GAP b.501c3​ ​is​ ​the​ ​legal​ ​definition​ ​they​ ​are​ ​going​ ​for.​ ​To​ ​complete​ ​their​ ​registration they​ ​need​ ​incorporation​ ​​ ​documents,​ ​a​ ​Federal​ ​Employer​ ​Identification Number​ ​(tax​ ​number),​ ​​ ​and​ ​then​ ​to​ ​apply​ ​for​ ​the​ ​501c3​ ​status. I.Adjourn​ ​-​ ​at​ ​7:25.