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CITY OF BOZEN
RECREATION DEPA
1211 W Mam POBox 1230
Phone (406) 587-.1
Brit Fontenot
Clerk of Commission
City Hall
Minutes of the Recreation and Parks Advisory Board
July 13, 2006
Present:
Board: Terry Baldus, Anne Banks, Gene Brooks, David Cook, Sandy
Dodge, Chris Guy, Sue Henning, Joanne Jennings, Ted KotelWas, Cindy
Mernin, Bob Wade
City: Ron Dingman
Other: Judy Blackmore
The minutes were approved as written.
There was no public comment nor mayor's nor city manager's
reports.
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Committee reports:
Subdivision review: (See also reports passed out at meeting and
attached.)
. Meadow Creek final park plan: moved by Gene, approved, that the
plan be accepted.
. Diamond Estates: postponed until August at the developer's
request.
. Laurel Glen: Until the city commission decides whether to grant a
second one-year extension for Phase III, the subdivision review
committee does not want to submit a final recommendation to the
board.
. Knolls at Hillcrest: the recommendation that the height limit for
homes be increased from 22 to 26 feet was approved. Sandy
reported that he had received a letter from Peg Potter opposing the
extension of Kenyon Street into the Knolls, reflecting neighborhood
opposition. David said that this issue will not come before the
commission soon. Sandy stated that this was not the board's fight
and that we should not become involved.
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Activities: Bob recommended that the criteria for posting items on the web site be
tightened. (See "Narrowing the Focus..." passed out at meeting.) Moved by David,
approved, that Bob and Sandy edit the site to remove non-recreation and parks-
related items.
PROST: Sandy displayed the large map prepared by Jon Henderson showing biCYC'
and pedestrian routes both existing and proposed. Maps will be printed for the board
members who do not already have them for study and comment.
Library Land Task Force: David reported that plus <;a change plus c'est la m-me
chose. (Okay, "the more it changes the more it's the same thing." Has more pizzazz in
French, don't you think?) The report came before the commission three weeks ago.
The $250,000 cash-in-lieu was taken. It still appears that the land east of the Mill
ditch and trail corridor is not threatened. The East Wallace-Mandeville land-transfer
station-old library-city hall situation remains unclear. David concluded that the
commission will wait until the full cost of the library is known before making
decisions on the disposal/uses of these lands.
Dog Committee: David commented that the committee report to the commission had
been derailed by the issue of dogs in Burke Park. The commission doesn't want to
separate the gist of the report from this issue. It also does not want the "Snowfill" to
become a dog park, fearing that this would prevent its future use as landfill or
saleable property. The commission will consider the issues on August 7. Chris said
that data from the study of effects of various uses in Burke Park by MSU professors
is being assembled for the commission. Ron Dingman stated that he had asked Ron
Brey to urge the commission to leave Burke Park as is, allowing the study to contiJiMle
for a year, and then revisit the issue. He also recommended that the Snowfill .
continue to be used as a dog park. He further recommended hiring two additional
patrol people under the direction of Connie Lien to enforce dog regulations.
East Main Street Wetlands: David reported on a tour conducted by Lynn Bacon,
who is both a member of the city's wetlands board and a wetlands expert retained by
Mike Delaney. The area lies between 1-90, Delaney's Village Downtown development
and MDOT land.
Park and Recreation Superintendent report:
. Ron reported that Doug Chandler had contacted him asking that the East
Gallatin Recreation Area park master plan be placed on the board's August
agenda. It was agreed that it would go to the subdivision review committee
first.
. A structural engineer is reviewing fire damage to the Bogert pavilion; it appears
that two of the glue-lam beams and about 35% of the roof must be replaced.
The structure must be stabilized quickly. James Goehrung was not sure
whether the pavilion is insured. Ron, James and Bill Martel met to discuss
options in light of the current shortage of construction workers. R.R. Taylor has
someone available who would be satisfactory. Farmers' Market is still taking
place in Bogert Park: Dick Walter has made a large tent available and other
vendors are bringing their own. .
. The county has agreed to give McLeod Park to the city!
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. Deb Mitchell, former Lifeguard II, has been promoted to Bogert Pool manager to
ease the burden on Sue Harkin and Jesse Blaylock.
. Rose Park: a hauler moving dirt resulting from church construction on N .25th
did not check with anyone about where to dump it, instead driving through
and destroying the wetlands and dumping all kinds of junk. The city will
probably bring suit. The contractor will have to remove everything and restore
the wetlands.
. Soroptimist Park: Sara Folger, the city grants manager, has taken over its
development as a CTEP project. The Ten Commandments have been taken to
the Salvation Army.
. Gene inquired about Westlake Park: Ron has a call in to John Delger. The
P.I.G. funds have been used up. They are currently working on a construction
plan for the parking lot. He needs to meet with the BMX board.
Other: Sandy reported that the cash-in-lieu committee had met and that he is
optimistic about its progress!
Respectfully submitted,
Anne Banks
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Subdivision Review Report
7/13/2006
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1. Meadow Creek Final Park Plan - Meetings 5/19106 & 6/2/06
. Meadow Creek is a very large development along South 19th extending along
Blackwood to 31st St. and north to Enterprise.
. It includes almost 22 acres of dedicated parkland in four major park areas.
. In addition to meeting all the required improvements, the developer will
provide a pavilion, some playground equipment, and additional landscaping.
. A 12' bike/ped sidewalk along S 19th will set the standard for connections as
19th continues to be developed.
. The subdivision review committee finds this to be a wellMdesigned parkland
proposal offering good, useable and varied parks and a good trail system. We
recommend that RP AB approve this plan
2. Diamond Estates - Developer has requested to be put Oft the August agenda
3. Manley Commercial - Meeting 6/30/2006
. No parkland required, reviewed because of its proximity to the East Gallatin
Recreation Area.
. Developers to make backs of buildings (facing the park) to look like fronts.
. Some lots adjacent to the park may become available to the city. .
. Committee recommended trail connection to Manley and stressed that the
development should be sensitive to buffer qualities (e.g. additional
landscaping)
4. Laurel Glen - Meeting 6/30/2006. Committee refused to move the current plan
forward.
At the meeting of the subdivision review committee of the Rec Board this morning, it was confirmed by the
advisory body that until the City Commission detennines whether or not the developer is granted a second
onewyear extension of Laurel Glen Subdivision, Phase m, that the advisory board does not want to forward
a fonnal recommendation on the park master plan to the Recreation and Parks Advisory Board. The City
Commission tabled their decision last week on the matter until there was a full Commission present after
the 4th of July.
~Dave Skelton
5. Knolls at Hillcrest - Meeting July 11, 2006. Sue, Joanne, and I did an onsite
inspection of height limits at Hillcrest following a request by PC Development to
raise the height limits. (See attached)
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Bozeman Recreation & Parks Advisory Board
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Subdivision Review
PLANNER: Jody Sanford
FROM: Subdivision Review Committee
SUBJECT: Knolls at Hillcrest
MEETING DATE: July 11,2006
COMMENTS:
. Jason Leep of PC Development led an onsite inspection/evaluation of the impact of the
proposed height limit increase at Knolls at Hillcrest. 26' stakes were moved along the
setback boundary while we traveled along the Burke Park Trails to observe the effects
on the sightlines. A 22' mark was on the stake so we were able to compare the
difference.
. Jason suggested that the increase would give the architects more freedom to vary the
heights of the buildings.
. From the easternmost trail in the Burke Park Trail System, the increase would have a
noticeable effect on the views of Bozeman Pass. From the Ridgeline Trail Gust to the
west) the views are unchanged, Le. while the increased height would have a negative
impact on some stretches of one trail, spectacular 3600 views are still unimpeded on the
upper trail.
. At worst, some views of the Bridger foothills are blocked, but views of the "M" and
Baldy are still unobstructed.
. As we proceeded north on the trail We perceived that the buildings would primarily
block views of existing buildings.
RECOMMENDATION:
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· In our opinion, the negative impacts of such an increase in height limits are small and
would be more than offset by a more visually pleasing variation in roofline heights.
We recommend that the commission approve the requested increase with the stipulation
that the developer pays special attention to an attractive variation in building heights.
Citing the Condition 21 Development Guidelines, June 2004 [page 5, section B]:
"Future development of the lands in tracts 1 & 2 will be designed to take into account
the view shed of those using Burke Park and associated perimeter trails. The
architectural design will be designed to incorporate the architectural beauty of the
surrounding area."
FISCAL EFFECTS:
. n/a
ALTERNATIVES:
. Holding PC Development to the originally agreed 22' limit would prevent some view
impairment from sections of the Burke Park Trails, but the result would be a more solid
and foreboding frontage to the Park.
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Respectfully submitted,
Sandy Dodge, Chairman, RP AB
Report compiled on July 11,2006
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