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HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-18-17 City Commission Minutes soz �x THE CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING OF BOZEMAN, MONTANA MINUTES Wednesday,October 18,2017 AGENDA ORDER MODIFIED DURING MEETING.ITEM AND NUMBER DESIGNATIONS REMAIN AS ORIGINALLY NOTICED. Mayor-Carson Taylor: Present Deputy Mayor-Cynthia Andrus: Present Commissioner-Jeff Krauss: Present Commissioner- I-Ho Pomeroy: Present Commissioner-Chris Mehl: Present Staff Present at Dais: Interim City Manager(ICM) Dennis Taylor, City Attorney(CA) Greg Sullivan, Community Development Director(CDD) Martin Matsen, Development Review Manager(DRM) Brian Krueger, Meeting Clerk Alicia Kennedy A. 06:00:10 PM (00:07:00)Call to Order—6:00 PM—Commission Room, City Hall, 121 North Rouse Mayor Taylor called the meeting to order at 6:00 PM. B. 06:00:20 PM (00:07:09) Pledge of Allegiance and a Moment of Silence C. 06:01:12 PM (00:08:01)Changes to the Agenda Mayor Taylor moved Item D. General Public Comment to the end of the agenda. E. 06:01:53 PM (00:08:43)Action Items 1. 06:01:53 PM (00:08:43) Continued from October 9, 2017: The Black Olive II Site Plan and Certificate of Appropriateness, 202 South Black Avenue, Application 17265 (Quasi-Judicial) (Krueger) t5 06:02:36 PM (00:09:25) Public Comment Mayor Taylor limits public comment to two hours. Page 1 of 13 Bozeman City Commission Special Meeting Minutes,October 23,2017 06:04:36 PM (00:11:26)Greg Beadsley,Public Comment From the Northeast neighborhood and concerned about B-3 (?) development adjacent to R-2 properties. People in the shadow of these projects are losing their home dream and privacy. Parking and views have been compromised.These projects impact negatively the already established neighborhoods. He hopes the new residents will make a positive impact on the neighborhoods, but questions the cost. 06:08:03 PM (00:14:53)Bob Cruise Public Comment Concerned with the retail component of the project. He is concerned with the parking of the retail space. He said this is not being addressed.The neighborhoods are already being burdened by retail space downtown. Will be difficult for patrons of the businesses to find space to park.The City Commission needs to address how the mixed-use parking will impact the neighborhoods. 06:10:12 PM (00:17:02)Jason Basey,Public Comment Lived here for about 20 years. He feels the Black/Olive project is smart growth. He defined smart growth as compact walkable centers. It is also walkable/bike friendly development with a range of housing choices. Requires planners,architects and historic preservation. If we all want smart growth,this is the type of project that should be approved. Read from the Downtown Improvement Plan—talking about being able to live,work and play in one area. Downtown should be the highest and most intense. Our plans were written to approve these projects. 06:13:07 PM (00:19:57)Steve Harvey,Public Comment Thanks the Commission for the work they do.Talked about the success of his photonics business and that in order to grow you want to recruit the best. Sprawl is bad growth. In order to locate businesses in the downtown core,staff is looking for a semi-urban lifestyle. Part of rapid growth of Seattle in the 90's. Seattle embraced density and reduced sprawl.We should embrace density as outlined in our plans and code. He is looking at this objectively as he doesn't have a "dog in this fight"—and in his mind this is best for the community as a whole. 06:16:22 PM (00:23:11)Pat Templin,Public Comment She lives 12 houses south of Black/Olive. She opposes the building on aesthetics.She also opposes it because of parking—the parking study done says they're at 85%already.She opposes it because of privacy. 06:17:57 PM (00:24:47)John Preston,Public Comment Lived downtown for 24 years. Did not consider the neighborhood and community in the project design. The neighbors this this is not infill, but overfill. We will sprawl as long as farmers continue to sell their land,this project won't stop that. Shared a Daily Chronicle editorial from the last Black/Olive vote. He questions the proposal that inhabitants may not need vehicles. He feels it will be a slap in their face if approved. He wants an explanation how the project has changed if it's approved. 06:21:05 PM (00:27:55)Steve Kirkoff,Public Comment It's the commission's job to protect community welfare. Save Bozeman was formed for the same reason. Page 2 of 13 Bozeman City Commission Special Meeting Minutes,October 23,2017 He feels the Save Bozeman group is a noble cause. Many long-term residents are leaving, but these people are not giving up.The project should be denied—not conditional or changed. Denial is for the welfare of the City.This project will be a precedent moving forward—for projects and moral.The impacts of these projects is too much (scale, etc.). 06:24:37 PM (00:31:27)Joseph Romano, Public Comment Restaurant owner in downtown Bozeman. Owns 2 restaurants and a lot of money invested in downtown. He needs downtown housing to get staff to move in. 06:25:38 PM (00:32:28)Amanda Evaiungles,Public Comment Moved from San Diego which is facing growth.She lives a minimalist lifestyle and this is the type of project she's looking for.She didn't want to commute downtown.She understands historic preservation, but this is a good project for her peers. 06:27:20 PM (00:34:10)Connie Lang,Public Comment Opposed the project because it is not affordable.This is a high-end development project.This means less and less opportunities for affordability downtown. 06:28:20 PM (00:35:10)Doug Chandler,Public Comment Civil Engineer and says that projects have design standards that guide them. He supports not enlarging roads to accommodate rush hour traffic. He promotes carpooling and other methods to reduce demand on roads, etc. He thinks the parking criteria is too relaxed for B-3. Discusses what he feels are realistic parking demands based on number of bedrooms. 06:31:36 PM (00:38:26)Steve Scarf,Public Comment Houses around his are all being sold. Change is inevitable, but not all change is good. Feels the project is too massive and tall for the neighborhood. Many residents use Olive as their east/west connection. More residents will increase parking.A 5 story building will shade the street and make travel more hazardous. 06:33:21 PM (00:40:11)Clark Babcock,Public Comment When he saw the Downtown Plan and saw that B-3 zoning should be most intensive, he thought the 5- West project was the"poster child". Five West has underground parking for the residents. Discusses other projects and their parking situations. Feels comparably, Black/Olive is too big for the site. 06:36:34 PM (00:43:23)Justin John Public Comment Lived downtown for 10 years. He supports Black/Olive.Thinks there is a demand for housing and growth. He thinks downtown doesn't have a parking problem, but a "convenient parking problem".You walk 200ft to get to the Target door, but when applied to your own home, people think it's too much. His 12 year time here makes him just as relevant as someone who's been here months or many more years. He expects a compliant B-3 project to fit in with non-compliant buildings is a poor expectation. It's not that Black/Olive is not too big, others are too small. Page 3 of 13 Bozeman City Commission Special Meeting Minutes,October 23,2017 06:39:19 PM (00:46:09)Jack Renairy, Public Comment Downtown Bozeman has been a success. We are the envy of other downtowns and have taken traffic from other similar communities.The scale of our downtown is part of what is attractive. He feels the tall buildings are out of scale with the area.Andy Holleran's projects are the only ones that push setbacks and height at the same time. He feels these projects will not reduce housing costs.These are small expensive projects.The issue is growth—and that is bigger than downtown. 06:42:28 PM (00:49:18)Daryll Shleim, Public Comment The Bozeman Chamber of Commerce supports this project.This conforms to codes of what downtown should look like. Many communities would embrace Andy and for what he brings to communities.When you live close, he recognizes that you are emotional.There are a lot of organizations that have put a lot into making these projects successful. Bozeman is growing and this is the future of Bozeman. Many businesses are looking for projects like this to provide housing for employees. 06:44:29 PM (00:51:19)Laura Rhine,Public Comment Encourages the commission to approve the project. Holleran incorporated the commission's suggestions. It's time for the commission to embrace a project that meets the City's goals. Project responsibly uses land downtown.Allows for social and economic diversity. Downtown is currently only for a few.This project will make living downtown more accessible for more than a select few.She feels the change will contribute to the vibrancy of the town. 06:47:02 PM (00:53:52)John Husking,Public Comment Opposes the Black/Olive project. Here to represent the people working or at home who couldn't make it.The project was declined by the Design Review Board and the Historic Preservation Board. Even the commission has said this project is overbuilt.This building is an affront—there is not transition to the neighborhood. No assurance that the population can be handled. Balconies are too close to the homes. He opposes the developer saying he needs to build it to this scale to"make the money he needs". 06:50:16 PM (00:57:06)Nolan Campbell,Public Comment Thanks commission and neighbors and speaks of his background. He supports the project. Discusses homes being developed and people moving into community. He supports fair housing. Misinformation is a problem with this project—it's hard to figure out and shouldn't be boiled downtown to facebook posts.This type of project is our easiest solution to affordable housing. He's hoping vehicles and fear won't hold this project back. 06:53:10 PM (01:00:00)Collet Kirkhoff,Public Comment Thanks commission because growth and change are hard. She loves where she lives—even though she's nowhere near this project. She believes in infill and walkability and smart growth. She believes in a vibrant downtown.She likes the project, but doesn't think it fits. We should demand a more attractive building—something that doesn't divide our city. She is concerned that we are not listening to our people.She hopes the commission makes decisions we will be proud of. Page 4 of 13 Bozeman City Commission Special Meeting Minutes,October 23,2017 06:56:25 PM (01:03:15)Paul Neubaur,Public Comment People from all over town have declined this project. Design Review Board declined it, and they don't live near it. Not all conforming buildings are contextually appropriate.Why approve a project that is declined by the boards. Continued to quote the code that could potentially speak against the project. How can the growth policy be what gives the commission permission to approve it,while the lines that oppose it are ignored.A well-run city would not undermine the board suggestions. He supports infill, but opposes the scale of this building. 06:59:44 PM (01:06:34)Ellen Stevenson,Public Comment Thanks the commission. Feels the project is too big. She said we want affordable housing, but this is just too big. It wouldn't fit on Main Street,so questions how can it fit in this space near homes. 07:01:02 PM (01:07:52)DarrVi Barrent,Public Comment Has lived here a long time and discusses the change he's seen. He is not against growth and change.The project is being proposed as mixed-use, but only about 800 sq ft is being used as commercial.This allows the developers to develop the project with max bedrooms and minimal parking.The infrastructure for this project is inadequate. Feels we are saying goodbye to charming downtown. Feels both sides make good points.A decision that displeases both sides is probably the best decision. He suggests a 4-story space with more commercial space. He feels this is more in line with the intent of the plan.Off-street parking should be dedicated to residents. 07:04:12 PM (01:11:02)RandV Peters,Public Comment Owns the property next door. He opposes the project. Discusses the design and according to Hollaren it is maximizing the site.This is bad design for the community. He is concerned about the parking, compatibility and transition. Design Review Board has said this a number of times.We should consider a more delicate transition for the neighborhoods. 07:06:06 PM (01:12:56)Allan Kirk Public Comment While making sure projects meet the minimums,we should also be sure that projects are appropriate. Questions if this is the best use for this land.This does not meet moderate or affordable housing based on the proposed pricing for the apartments.Just because some people can afford it doesn't mean the commission should approve it.These could be fancy seasonal apartments. Discusses a previous court case with Town &Country and Design Code sited at the time.These projects will not meet bedrooms needed for Bozeman's growth. 07:09:33 PM (01:16:23)Brian Popiell,Public Comment From the SWIMBA organization, but here on his own terms. He knows no one want apartments in their neighborhood. Mostly you hear neighbors coming out speaking out about it. On the other side are businesses,environmentalists, etc. speaking out in support.What we hear from neighbors in this area, we hear that they want different zoning—that's a legitimate conversation that needs to happen outside of one specific project.There is a lot of misinformation and personal feelings being thrown around with Page 5 of 13 Bozeman City Commission Special Meeting Minutes,October 23,2017 this project. We should uphold 50 years of planning. 07:12:37 PM (01:19:26)Brian Segal, Public Comment He lives downtown and through this has been educated on smart growth. He thinks parking should be a non-issue. However, he thinks there needs to be a compromise—4 stories may be more appropriate. The commission took up this project to talk about this project, not zoning, etc. He thinks Chris Saunders should be planning director, because he is an insider, with perspective. 07:16:04 PM (01:22:54) Eilleen TennV,Public Comment Lives in a historic home downtown. She does not want to tell the previous historic owner of her home that we approved this project, because it does not fit in the important historic neighborhood.They are working to get that district labeled as historic.This is one of the most important historic districts in the town.The historic districts should stay the way they are. 07:18:13 PM (01:25:03)Jacquiline Katz, Public Comment She is concerned for the parking.She is a property manager and has never rented to someone who doesn't own a car.She thinks it would be horrible to approve something that doesn't have at least one parking space per bedroom—included in rent. She thinks the people are willing to negotiate and people need to compromise. If Andy Holleran can't make money on that project,then someone else should build something. Commercial on the first level or parking would be ideal.This is not affordable. 07:20:46 PM (01:27:36) Gretta Dikeman, Public Comment Opposes the project. Inadequate parking.Too many units compared to the number of potential cars. She thinks it's absurd to think that 1 shared use vehicle is equal to 5 spots.She thinks there is not architectural contribution to the neighborhood. She is concerned that this project will encourage more tall buildings in the halo.With no parking, people will not come downtown. Smart growth is not big box apartments. These are residential neighborhoods that people have raised families for years. Developers are not considering quality of life—they just care about money. Encourages commission to listen to residents. Do not try to change Bozeman into any other larger cities. 07:24:26 PM (01:31:15)Stuart Mitchell, Public Comment Encourages the commission to vote on this tonight. Frustrating to see so much misinformation on this project. We need to have balanced growth.What makes Bozeman special is that it is not like everywhere else. He appreciates being"in the middle of nowhere".We need mass-transit,etc., but need to preserve our community.Will put a rift in our town if approved—will discourage people from being involved in the future. 07:28:10 PM (01:34:59)Pete Dkkman,Public Comment Opposes this project.Too big forthe site—not enough setbacks. Should have some green space, and not more than 3 or 4 stories. He feels the parking should come with the buildings. He feels it should be like the Stiff Building with the landscape in the front. He feels it's the same footprint as the post office in a smaller space.Thinks some neighbors may not have sun in the winter. It will affect other people's Page 6 of 13 Bozeman City Commission Special Meeting Minutes,October 23,2017 gardens. May require a 4 way stop sign or traffic light. 07:31:02 PM (01:37:51)AmyJones,Public Comment Born in Bozeman. She is a student at MSU and studying architecture.Appreciates listening to the comments. Not sure if she opposes or supports the project. 07:32:36 PM (01:39:25)Christine Joy,Public Comment Opposes the project.Too large and inappropriate.Asks them to respect the community. 07:34:10 PM (01:40:59)Staff Response to Public Comment Brian Kreuger said nothing new was addressed that changes the staff's opinion of the project. 07:34:36 PM (01:41:26)Applicant Rebuttal Andy Holleran responds by thanking the audience and commission.Said that we are a community based on laws, rules and codes.As a developer he followed the codes that have been adopted—and this project meets or exceeds the codes. He has also listened to what the commission suggested. He respectfully asks for approval after the changes have been made. Bozeman is growing and they are excited for this project. 07:37:10 PM (01:43:59) Recess Mayor Taylor called the Commission into recess until 7:45 PM. 07:44:53 PM (01:51:42)Call to Order Mayor Taylor called the Commission back to order at 7:45 PM. 07:45:59 PM (01:52:49)Questions of Applicant Cr. Krauss questions if the Design Review Board reviewed this application officially. Cr. Krauss questions if only 2 members of the commission met and voted on Black/Olive, if that would be an official vote. 07:47:25 PM (01:54:15)Motion that having reviewed and considered the application materials,public comment,and all the information presented,I hereby adopt the findings presented in the staff report for application 17265 and move to approve the Black Olive 11 Site Plan and Certificate of Appropriateness application subject to conditions and all applicable code provisions. Commissioner-Chris Mehl: Motion Deputy Mayor-Cynthia Andrus: 2nd 07:48:17 PM (01:55:06) Discussion Cr. Mehl Commented on parking and suggested amending the motion to have the Parking Commission consider implementing a parking district prior to completion of the project. Cr. Krauss responded regarding parking. Page 7 of 13 Bozeman City Commission Special Meeting Minutes,October 23,2017 DM Andrus was interested in moving the issue of parking districts forward. Cr. Mehl commented on the Downtown Parking Plan and how we can tackle parking in these areas. Mayor Taylor thinks that regardless of what happens here, it could be beneficial to explore a parking district downtown. 07:53:01 PM (01:59:51)Amendment to the Motion to instruct the Bozeman parking commission to consider and potentially implement a new residential parking permit district or districts around downtown and in the neighborhood north and south of the commercial downtown district by July 315, 2018. Commissioner-Chris Mehl: Motion Deputy Mayor-Cynthia Andrus: 2nd 07:53:25 PM (02:00:15) Discussion CA Sullivan encouraged commission to stick to the issue at hand. Cr. Mehl states that if we're addressing parking downtown in this issue,that this is relevant.This parking district should be in place before any additional projects begin operating.To park more than 2 or 3 hours you would need a residential parking sticker.With regards to this project, no additional parking stickers would be provided.As a result,there would be no parking impact on the neighborhood. DM Andrus thinks this it is an interesting idea, but as a liaison to the Parking Commission, it needs further discussion. Cr. Krauss says that he encourages the commission not to discuss something that has not been advertised and that the public has not been able to weigh in on. Cr. Pomeroy agrees that this should not be discussed at this time. Mayor Taylor thinks parking is essential and that a parking district may allay some of the parking impacts. He thinks the language only means the parking commission will consider it sooner, not guarantee that it will pass. Cr. Mehl apologizes for anyone who is concerned. He feels his motion is general and to encourage the commission to look into this. His suggestions for the outcome of the parking district are his own. He thinks addressing these districts is important for upcoming projects. Cr. Krauss states that this piece puts his yes or no in jeopardy, because he may not approve just this one piece. He understands the intent, but thinks connecting the two could be bad. Cr. Mehl asks to withdraw the motion and encourages Mayor Taylor to add it to a future agenda 08:06:24 PM (02:13:14)Amendment to the Motion withdrawn. 08:06:36 PM (02:13:25)Amendment to the Motion that the west building elevation must be modified and be designed to be substantially similar in fagade articulation and off set on the top floor no greater than as the east elevation in order for the building to exhibit clear order and composition on all elevations and to provide a layering of design elements on the west fagade. The final building design must be submitted in the form of a final plan to the director of community development for review and approval prior to the building permit submittal. Page 8 of 13 Bozeman City Commission Special Meeting Minutes,October 23,2017 Commissioner-Chris Mehl: Motion Deputy Mayor-Cynthia Andrus:2nd 08:07:00 PM (02:13:50) Discussion Cr. Mehl thinks it would fit more appropriately in the neighborhood with this adjustment. Cr.Andrus thinks this would help make it look smaller and could go a long way. Mayor Taylor states that the question is mass and scale which relates to compatibility. He thinks this may help to reduce the mass of the building. 08:11:10 PM (02:18:00) Vote on the Amendment to the Motion that the west building elevation must be modified and be designed to be substantially similar in fa§ade articulation and off set on the top floor no greater than as the east elevation in order for the building to exhibit clear order and composition on all elevations and to provide a layering of design elements on the west fa§ade. The final building design must be submitted in the form of a final plan to the director of community development for review and approval prior to the building permit submittal. The Amendment passed 5-0. Commissioner-Chris Mehl: Motion Deputy Mayor-Cynthia Andrus: 2nd Mayor-Carson Taylor:Approve Deputy Mayor-Cynthia Andrus:Approve Commissioner-Jeff Krauss:Approve Commissioner-I-Ho Pomeroy:Approve Commissioner-Chris Mehl:Approve 08:12:13 PM (02:19:03) Discussion on the Main Motion Cr. Mehl we all care about Bozeman and that is why people speak out. Disagreement does not mean disrespect.We reclaimed it twice because they know people care about this. People came here because of what Bozeman is. Our airport is indicative of our success. Planning is important—pointed to 4-corners and their need to reorganize poor planning. He does not want to sprawl out like Houston. He would like to make some changes to parking in the City. He thinks we should expect good design and he thinks the amendment will help with design.The downtown was zoned for density and has been for a long time— the halo is not just close to downtown, but intended to be part of downtown.Cr. Mehl quotes downtown plan and the desire for intensity in the downtown area.The downtown plan also is concerned with commercial—and suggests 500 new units downtown.The plan has been in place for 7 years and we have built about 100+units.The commission has also voted twice for the beginning of the strategic plan,which calls for a high quality urban approach.There has been a robust public comment period on a number of these city plans. Quotes the UDC and that what it is zoned is what determines what is allowed there. He states this will not happen in all residential districts—it is only possible in this B-3 district.We are not asking downtown alone to carry to load—there are other areas of density such as Midtown. He is looking for nodes throughout the community.At 3-4%growth, all of those areas will Page 9 of 13 Bozeman City Commission Special Meeting Minutes,October 23,2017 grow—and hopefully it will curb sprawl. Because of City density versus county density,we are many square miles smaller.The longer we take to decide,the more sprawl will happen in the meantime. People are coming no matter what we decide tonight. He says he met with individuals primarily on the opposing side, and the commission is not doing anything backhanded with developers. DM Andrus thanks the developer for bringing them a project to start a conversation about growth. She thanks everyone involved in the conversation and for questioning what makes a good neighborhood. She does not agree with everything said on either side. Not agreeing with anyone does not mean she is not listening.A vibrant downtown needs to not only provide interesting things to do, but also residences. Downtown is integral to our community, not its own entity.She does not think downtown should be the only area with a higher, more dense scale.Thriving neighborhoods are as important as a thriving downtown. Neighborhoods are not just residential, but also commercial. Good neighborhoods encourage interaction, multimodal transportation, etc. Where we have change,we have conflict— where downtown meets a neighborhood,we are having conflict. Because of the transition area, context is really important for this project. Every project should be considered for context—regardless of how it fits into a plan.She feels it is compatible on two faces (north and west), but not on the other two(south and east). Continues to evaluate how the building may or may not fit with the guidelines. She does not feel it is not compatible and sensitive to the neighborhood. Cr. Krauss wants to include the findings of the staff in his comments, because he supports them and does not need to repeat them.There are 45,000 people in our community and they all make this place special.We are required to apply the law to the application. He will be voting yes to the project.There was a residence near this area years ago—that was very important and it was torn down.A 2 story building took its place and is now the HRDC. Currently,that building would never be allowed to turn down. However,the tapestry of neighborhoods changes with time and that building has since worn awards.This property has been central business for many years. Discusses the minimum density for this area, but density is not just the minimum.The plan does not just encourage density downtown, but high density near the downtown.As business expands,there was an expectation that single family residences would turn to commercial use.This is more than just the finding of staff, it is also a stake in the ground where we need to decide if we will keep things as they are or move forward. If he has to decide one way or the other-between history and building for the future—he supports live and work walkable,smart growth downtown. He has various plans that look to the future and there is a long history of people making decisions for the future, and not for the past.What we decide in the downtown, has an impact on what happens in other parts of the town.Spoke to a previous project that was high density on Huffine that abutted single family homes, and that project was approved as well—it is not just downtown facing these issues.There was a time when the commission voted to get rid of the blight downtown—no one voted to preserve the blight. Plans have continuously asked for more density and livability and walkability downtown—it is not just a recent plan allowing this.There have been some changes as a result of the 2020 plan that encouraged reduced parking,etc. but that was not voted on by this commission. He is supporting because of the way this question has been posed in the community. Cr. Pomeroy thanked everyone for their patience. For 15 years-at least-we have supported policies that prevented sprawl.We have supported the open space bond and growing up to preserve the land around us.Spoke about trust: Fairness,Openness, and Inclusiveness.To maintain trust we need to treat this developer fairly. Growth downtown is important to keep downtown healthy. Growth is so fast, Page 10of13 Bozeman City Commission Special Meeting Minutes,October 23,2017 there is a housing shortage that causes affordability problems.The application complies with all City requirements. Cr. Mehl said that they are trying to do some work on parking and transition is a new topic—and they are working on transition.Spoke about affordability—new units mean more people can live downtown. Downtown is so expensive because of scarcity.When new housing doesn't show up,the cost of moderate housing goes up.To keep downtown vibrant—especially with "amazonization" of shopping— it's keeping downtown walkable. Building downtown is easier financially on the city than building on the outskirts of town. He supports the staffs report and the car share has been reduced to one to test the program.This is better for downtown,the environment, etc. Cr. Krauss said this community debate has been really good and provided us a chance to review our strategies and review our plans.This allowed us an opportunity to put in to effect a transition zone since the plans are increasing density. Read from a couple of letters that support the downtown plan and increasing density. Mayor Taylor disclosed that he spoke with Andy Holleran regarding the previous proposal to get clarification about what it is he said when the proposal was declined.There has been a plan for downtown for a long time—and as long as the transition is taking place,there will be conflict. However, just because it's allowed by code, doesn't mean it has to be approved. Until this area is fully commercial or mixed-use, it will continue to be an area of conflict. He is pleased with the other higher density buildings around town.What we are facing in Bozeman is not unique to us.There will be a struggle to figure out the right way to move forward—not just here. He keeps hearing that this project is the tipping point for downtown. He has also heard that if you don't approve this building downtown will be stagnant and we'll lose downtown. He doesn't believe either of those are true. He feels it is a test to the cohesiveness of the neighborhood to the south, and that it will be a test in car sharing, etc.They will work on the parking piece to keep parking for residents and for people to continue to come downtown. The City needs to find a means for addressing parking downtown that does not rely on the surrounding neighborhoods.The parking garage is underutilized—so parking is likely not as much of an issue as people think it may be. In his opinion, 20 years from now,this building will not dwarf the historic district, or minimize the R-2 surrounding it.The R-2 to the south will stay there for a long time.Twenty years from now,there will not be a TIF district to support downtown—the downtown plan realizes that there needs to be residences nearby to supplement what will be lost when the TIF expires. We need to consider the environment when talking about growth—we alone cannot stop climate change, but if we adopt what other cities are doing we may make a difference together.We also need to address the county. We as a city are 50%of the county—we can make a difference by voting in the county, not just the city.There is a lot happening in the county that we can have an impact on as a City—we can act to prevent sprawl in the county. Doing the right thing for the community as a whole is hard when it affects us personally. He supports this primarily for the climate—and need to take a critical look at ourselves. We have the right to demand the best and most high quality design—many of the things we asked for with this project have been met.All of the changes are a result of community discussion. He does not understand the intensity of the emotions on both sides—it will only"ruin Bozeman" if we let it.We need to encourage and maintain the neighborhoods.We need to be proud of a downtown that will last. CA Sullivan asked all Commissioners to confirm the car share program meets Administrative order 2017- 01 prior to voting and that they agree with the findings that the other Commissioners have made. Page 11 of 13 Bozeman City Commission Special Meeting Minutes,October 23,2017 All Commissioners agreed or stated that they already agreed that it complied during the discussion. 09:25:53 PM (03:32:43) Vote on the Motion as Amended that having reviewed and considered the application materials,public comment, and all the information presented, 1 hereby adopt the findings presented in the staff report for application 17265 and move to approve the Black Olive 11 Site Plan and Certificate of Appropriateness application subject to conditions and all applicable code provisions. The Motion passes 4-1. Commissioner-Chris Mehl: Motion Deputy Mayor-Cynthia Andrus: 2nd MaVor-Carson Taylor:Approve Deputy Mayor-Cynthia Andrus: Disapprove Commissioner-Jeff Krauss:Approve Commissioner- 1-Ho Pomeroy:Approve Commissioner-Chris Mehl:Approve D. 09:26:10 PM (03:33:00) General Public Comment 09:26:44 PM (03:33:34)Dow Chandler,Public Comment He encourages the commission to reconsider the parking standard in the B-3 zone. F. 09:27:36 PM (03:34:26) FYI/Discussion 1. Mayor Taylor states that they will be starting the October 23`d Commission meeting with a 2 hour discussion on the UDC Update and that they will try to get to the other items on the agenda as quickly as possible. G. 09:28:06 PM (03:34:56)Adjournment Mayor Taylor adjourned the meeting at 9:28 PM. 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