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Design Review Board
Wednesday, July 12, 2017 5:30 pm, City Hall, Commission Room
A. 05:31:20 PM (00:00:30) Call meeting to order and Roll Call
Present Were:
Kiersten Iwai
Lessa Racow (Interim Chair)
Brady Ernst
Commissioner Cyndy Andrus
B. 05:32:11 PM (00:01:21) Changes to the Agenda
C. 05:32:16 PM (00:01:26) Minutes
None
D. 05:34:04 PM (00:03:14) Public Comment
Please state your name and address in an audible tone of voice for the record. This is the time
for individuals to comment on matters falling within the purview of the Committee. There will
also be an opportunity in conjunction with each action item for comments pertaining to that
item. Please limit your comments to three minutes.
E. Action Items
1. 05:34:54 PM (00:04:04) 17265 Black Olive II SP (Krueger)
202 South Black Avenue. Site plan and certificate of appropriateness application for the
demolition of the existing office building and the construction of a five story, 47 unit mixed use
apartment building and related site improvements. The project proposes 28 one bedroom and
19 two bedroom apartments, 40 parking spaces and 1 car-share vehicle in one building. Eight
hundred square feet of commercial space is proposed on the ground floor.
Staff Report
Application
Public Comment
05:41:01 PM (00:10:11) Planner Brian Krueger reviewed proposed parking.
05:43:51 PM (00:13:01) Krueger reviewed the project elevations.
05:46:06 PM (00:15:16) Krueger reviewed comparison of proposed building volume vs.
allowable volume.
05:47:33 PM (00:16:43) Krueger reviewed and summarized previous public comments and
answered some concerns.
05:51:02 PM (00:20:12) Krueger reviewed the guideline findings for the project, stating that they
are in conformance with the conservation overlay and development code for this location.
05:51:57 PM (00:21:07) Krueger reviewed the two conditions that are recommended related to
the COA approval in order to confirm important design elements as the project moves forward.
The conditions regard the type of glass used in the storefront.
05:53:02 PM (00:22:12) Andy Holloran presented on behalf of the applicant. He reviewed the
changes he made based on the feedback received.
05:54:42 PM (00:23:52) DRB asked staff and applicant questions regarding the project:
05:54:46 PM (00:23:56) Board Member Ernst asked about the two properties to the
south of the Black Olive site and if they were to be developed, if they would need to
comply with B3 zoning or with the historical district.
05:59:48 PM (00:28:58) Krueger responded to a question from the board regarding the
daylight plane. He stated that this project was not required to provide a daylight plane
since it is not abutting a residential zone, but explained how it is calculated and that it is
typically used in transitional zoning.
06:02:32 PM (00:31:42) Bike Parking is reviewed in response to a question.
06:03:42 PM (00:32:52) Board member Racow asked about the public comment
regarding the utility pole placement. Holloran answered that the placement was
determined by Northwestern Energy.
06:06:03 PM (00:35:13) Board member Racow asked about an area on the East side of
the building that is lacking plantings. Applicant Holloran responded that they will add
landscaping to that area. Racow also asked about a rooftop garden.
06:09:06 PM (00:38:16) Commissioner Andrus asked about the perforated parking
panels. Krueger answered that they will allow air flor, but will shield the vehicles.
06:10:39 PM (00:39:49) Applicant Holloran responded to a question regarding the
structure’s relation to the neighborhoods surrounding it. Holloran stated that the size
of the building is meant to assist in the housing shortage and to fit within downtown
and the zoning district.
Public Comment for 17-265 Black Olive II:
06:12:35 PM (00:41:45) Ellen Stevenson had comments concerning parking, neighboring
yard privacy and diminished views with the construction of Black Olive.
06:14:12 PM (00:43:22) Stewart Mitchell had comments concerning the functional and
aesthetic design of the project and how it fits within the neighborhood. He also had
concerns with the NCOD.
06:17:24 PM (00:46:34) Randy Peters had comments concerning compatibility of the
project with the surrounding neighborhood and the lack of change with the project in
response to feedback. He asked the board to reject the proposal.
06:20:29 PM (00:49:39) Adam Oprey asked if the project was approved, how long the
construction would be.
06:21:19 PM (00:50:29) Elizabeth Darrow’s comments concerned the design of the
project and the lack of change from the previous application. She also expressed
concern regarding the interpretation of the NCOD.
06:25:03 PM (00:54:13) Jim Walseth commented that Bozeman residents value
preservation and libertarianism and argued that the Black Olive structure disregards
those believes.
06:26:51 PM (00:56:01) Richard Brown commented that little has changed with the
project and that the concerns that were voiced previously have not been addressed and
that there was little regard for the character of the neighborhood. He asked that the
board vote against the project.
06:29:04 PM (00:58:14) Nancy Johnson commented that the re-submittal of the project
was insulting to the community with the lack of change for this specific site.
06:32:54 PM (01:02:04) Alan Kirk commented that the changes made to the application
are not meaningful to the community regarding the size, parking challenges and
transition to the residences on the south.
06:35:23 PM (01:04:33) Clark Babcock commented that the mass and scale of this site is
not appropriate to the neighborhood. He stated that cutting off the 5th floor of the
project would have addressed many issues, but that he does not see the necessary
changes to make it appropriate for the area.
06:37:18 PM (01:06:28) Jack Renarie stated that his neighbors have started to sell their
homes in response to the proposed Black Olive project due to its size and scale. He felt
that the project would drive up housing costs and take away opportunity from family
residents, like teachers and firefighters.
06:40:45 PM (01:09:55) Paul Neubauer voiced concerns regarding the characteristics of
the area that cannot be measured for the project application. He stated that while the
project checked off the boxes of the code, it was not appropriate for the neighborhood
and pointed out code section 38.520.030c, which states that buildings that contain
dwelling units whose only solar access is from the applicable side of the building must
be set back from applicable side or rear property line at least 15 feet.
06:44:05 PM (01:13:15) Clarissa Weary comments voiced concerns regarding the design
of the structure and lack of change from previous feedback.
06:46:38 PM (01:15:48) Jackie Persons commented that the congestion of parking and
driving in the vicinity of the project is a safety risk for the community. She also
commented on the size, appropriateness and the applicant’s lack of change from
previous feedback.
06:50:00 PM (01:19:10) Mary Padzitzer’s comments voiced concerns regarding parking
and the traffic that will come from this development.
06:52:11 PM (01:21:21) Daryl Barrent stated that he did not believe the development
was geared toward increasing commercial presence as B3 zoning dictates. He also
voiced concerns regarding snow and garbage falling from the balconies onto the
sidewalks and the lack of change from previous applications.
06:56:18 PM (01:25:28) Al Kesselheim stated that his comments had been voiced by
others repeatedly. He pointed out the massive outpouring of the community and asked
that they be heard.
06:57:39 PM (01:26:49) Kate Bryant stated that she owns a rental property adjacent to
Black Olive and that they take pride in offering affordable housing. While they support
infill and density, she stated that it is a matter of scale. She asked that Black Olive
provide a plan that promotes community and affordable housing.
Discussion:
07:01:47 PM (01:30:57) Board Member Ernst stated that the mass and the scale of the project is
still an issue as it does not fit with the residential neighborhood to the south and to the east. He
added that the back half of the project is in the S. Tracy, S. Black historic district according to the
1987 map made from colored pencil. He voiced concern regarding the adjacent properties that
fall within the historic district and stated that he could not see them building up without
conflicting with the historic preservation standards.
He brought up a stadium housing project that was proposed to be adjacent to Alder Creek
Subdivision and the determination from the Zoning Commission was that it should be a gradient
between zoning and housing from high residential to low residential. He argued that this project
relates to downtown, but does not relate to the residential area behind it.
07:13:02 PM (01:42:12) Board Member Iwai asked Mr. Holloran why he has not considered
reducing the stories of the structure to 3-4 stories rather than 5. Mr. Holloran answered that the
project is appropriate to B3 zoning and that the process seems to be very subjective. He also
stated that they have to consider the economics and cost of land downtown.
Iwai continued by asking about underground parking and why that was not considered.
Holloran stated that it cost $50K per space in order to do that and that they are trying to help
make the price of these units more attainable and offer a larger variety of housing types.
When asked how long it would take to construct, Holloran answered 12-14 months from the
demolition process.
Iwai commented that she can tell that this project is symbolic to the community in where
Bozeman is heading. She also stated that there is a need for infill within the city. Iwai stated
appreciation for the changes in the upper stories and the color changes in the project, but said
that she still felt that the transition is awkward and the design doesn’t fit the character of the
neighborhood.
07:24:41 PM (01:53:51) Interim Chair Lessa Racow stated that she appreciates the changes that
Mr. Holloran has made to the project, highlighting the increase in enclosed bicycle parking, the
pedestrian entrance on the SW side of the building which will allow residents to enter with their
bicycles, the effort to balance the parking and the architectural changes at the top of the
building.
Racow continued to state that the building is not aesthetically pleasing, noting the dark colors
on the façade. She continued that there should be a balance between the building and the
neighboring residents. She made a recommendation that the 2nd floor be commercial as well
and noted that she had no issue with the size of the building, but its design.
Racow commented that the design needs to consider not just the residents, but other citizens
who want to visit downtown and have a place to park. She voiced concern that this would not
impact the housing shortage as many residents may be seasonal or that units would be leased as
vacation rentals.
Racow reiterated that from a design standpoint, the building feels too dark and too heavy and
that she would like to see a project similar in this site, but that she would like to see a different
design overall. She asked that the Commission consider moving the utility pole to the East onto
the Black Olive portion of the utility easement, that it would be a respectful gesture to the
neighbor immediately to the south. She added that immediately to the west in the SE corner,
where there is currently vacant space with rock and mulch, that there be some ‘unfriendly’
foliage to prevent loitering or unwanted camping.
07:37:04 PM (02:06:14) Commissioner Andrus responded to some public comment and clarified
that the Design Review Board was not given any direction or ‘marching orders’ specific to this
project from the City Commission, but they are to perform as they always do with regard to
building design. Andrus also reminded the public that this is a new application, not a
continuation of an application and also reminded the public not to speak to an individual, but to
an application.
Recommendation:
07:41:15 PM (02:10:25) Board member Brady Ernst asked to open up for more discussion since
the board lacked a quorum to vote on a motion, but wanted to provide a recommendation to
the commission.
MOTION to recommend denial based on the design review boards findings of non-compliance
from previous discussion: Brady Ernst
MOTION SECONDED: Kiersten Iwai
07:42:19 PM (02:11:29) DISCUSSION:
Board member Ernst stated that the recommendation to deny the application is due to the mass
and scale of the building in relation to the historic district to the south. He argued that there are
not enough historic districts and that is what makes them special.
Board member Iwai stated that she could not single out a specific reason why the board is
recommending denial, but that she believes that there is a better fit for this location as far as
design is concerned.
Interim Chair Racow supported Iwai’s statement that the design is just not a fit for this location
and that there is a better option. She stated that the building is vital to the community, but that
the design is not right.
VOTE: Unanimous – Motion to recommend denial passes.
F. 07:47:01 PM (02:16:11) FYI/Discussion
Board member Ernst requested that an agenda item be added to vote on a replacement Chair
and Vice Chair for the board.
G. 07:47:55 PM (02:17:05) Adjournment
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